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Sorry for the confusion, we as moderators can't be seen to be discussing them. That would not be a good look. There's no rule against members discussing these things. But it is a public forum, you do not have to be a member to read posts here, and the forums have, at times, been monitored by festival officials and festival suppliers. So naturally, those members with a little common sense, choose to organise themselves into groups to discuss these things elsewhere, these groups are usually open to other members who may want to join in the lead up to a sale. I hope I'm making it more clear this time. I also use OOF / Discord from time to time, that is also a public server, accessible by anybody, even more so than here, as Discord has very little or no analytics to my knowledge, depending on bot setup, all the while, Discord servers can be accessed invisibly. So whilst I cannot speak for them, I imagine that may be why they were cautious. (P.s, you don't need to censor their name in general discussion, advertising is not permitted, but neither OOF or Discord are 'dirty words' when it comes to general discussion, just like Reddit, X, Facebook etc. A lot of us use multiple platforms.) -
The cold hard truth is that, generally speaking, having a gameable system greatly improves the chances of people in this forum getting tickets. Even a more strictly enforced version of what we have now would massively reduce your chances. If I came out of the Sunday sale without a ticket I would be praying that (aside from fixing the obvious bugs such as the “rejected queue number” one) they didn’t touch a thing for the resale. Even the “access denied” error message… you now know that if you keep retrying it will go through. That gives you an advantage over others unaware of this that will give up. if I was in a big group that still needed tickets I would also be praying that they don’t fix the back button issue before the resale too. A proper ballot, with strictly one entry per group tied to a registration (assuming they could keep duplicate registrations under control), would be worst case scenario. It might feel like the better option right now (I know how gutting missing out on tickets feels) but I imagine disappointment you have now would be blown out of the water by the crushing realisation that the reality of the implementation of a fair ballot would likely mean you would miss a decade of festivals rather than the odd year here and there. I do think there’s a distinction to be made between those that actively try to profit from the sale, but other than that I think anyone doing all they can to get tickets should be able to sleep pretty soundly at night. -
Last year, there was a 3 day window between coach and general where it was known it worked. I accept your rule going forward, but that was not the rule last year, and it was openly discussed after the sale here (there was still a resale coming up and there was no ban on discussing it back then, but it was then patched for the resale after all the fuss). If there was a rule against discussing hacks I would not have felt kinda betrayed by the hiding of it here cause if it's against the rules it's against the rules. But going forward, do you mind helping me understand the difference between a tip and a hack? I agree HOSTS is very much a hack, but: is running 30 chrome profiles a hack? what about the firefox 100 tabs thing? is that a hack? is using the back button to get as many tickets as you can fit in 10 minutes a hack? is using remote IPs and software designed for beating concert queues (aka: bots) a hack? i'm not trying to start trouble, i actively use here and TheOtherPlace for exactly this kind of info so I want to know the rules and lines as i've no interest in being trouble. -
but strangely is supposed to be headlining Coachella unless he turned that down too at the last second. So yeah, wonder whats up. -
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