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Not sure where the Shakey slander comes from and how it signals the death of the festival. It is undebatable he is both a legendary musician and a legendary live performer. His 2009 performance was lauded. Plus we have to consider this could potentially be his last ever tour over in Europe and thus Glastonbury could be his last big headline in Europe. He provides a great balance to the other rumoured 1975 and O Rod. While Neil isn’t pumping out chart hits in 2025 like Harry Styles why does that matter? He’s backed by a legacy few artists can match. Hell every single song writer or guitarist playing next year would likely cite him as an influence. Neil has back catalogue hits, and the live aptitude and stage presence to headline and it isn’t even in question. The field might not be full but how many is it full for? Someone with the musical chops, chart appeal, cultural relevance and significance of a final performance like Elton John isn’t constantly available. If people just want young chart toppers topping a bill then I’m sure we can ask someone to reboot V Fest or something. I’m glad Glastonbury covers most bases with the range of music there. Any festival out there could go and book O Rod or 1975 to headline most years, Neil isn’t that case. Good mix between genders, nationalities, genres and age ranges. I’m happy to slate 1975 until the cows come home but I can see why they’re headlining and they have an audience. He’ll get a good crowd, not the biggest, not the smallest. But why does that even matter? It isn’t a disaster booking by any means. I certainly won’t be looking behind me to judge the crowds size when he’s on. And if he’s not for you there’ll be plenty of other counter programming - rumours suggest Charli XCX will be in against him who is very different headliner in her own right again showing the strength of the festival.

Now onwards to the summer solstice!😊

Insert the meme Jonsnow. FINE

Opposing genocide.

Friday Pyramid - The 1975, Central Cee, Alanis Morrissette, Snow Patrol, Mika, The Lathums, The Stranglers Other - Loyle Carner, Deftones, Amyl and the Sniffers, Beabadobee, Inhaler, Pale Waves, Nieve Ella, Shed Seven West Holts - FKA Twigs, Goat, En Vogue, Yussef Dayes, Geordie Greep, Lakecia Benjamin, The Selecter Woodsies - St. Vincent, Blossoms, TBA(Biffy Clyro), The Mary Wallopers, Warmduscher, Sofia Isella, Antony Szmierek Park - Underworld, SBTRKT, Holly Johnson, Katy J Pearson, King Creosote, Throwing Muses, Still House Plants Saturday Pyramid - Neil Young, Paramore, Jorja Smith, The Script, Ezra Collective, CMAT, Ocean Colour Scene Other - Charli xcx, Wet Leg, The Libertines, Rizzle Kicks, Kneecap, Alessi Rose, Willie J Healey, Hard-Fi West Holts - Maribou State, Doechii, Jpegmafia, Hak Baker, Nilufer Yanya, Minyo Crusaders, Nala Sinephro Woodsies - Franz Ferdinand, Cage the Elephant, Hard Life, Fat Dog, Kim Deal, Girlband!, Swim School Park - Beth Gibbons, Overmono, Orville Peck, English Teacher, Molotov Jukebox, Been Stellar, Corto.Alto Sunday Pyramid - Olivia Rodrigo, Chappell Roan, Nile Rodgers and Chic, Rod Stewart, Travis, Heather Small, Choir/Orchestra Other - The Prodigy, Jamie T, Tate McRae, Father John Misty, Wunderhorse, Japanese Breakfast, Griff, Rianne Downey West Holts - Basement Jaxx, Shygirl, 070 Shake, Sampa the Great, Imarhan, Jamila Woods, Meute Woodsies - Clairo, Girl in Red, TV on the Radio, The Dare, Joey Valence and Brae, Luvcat, Alice Shone Park - The Maccabees, Future Islands, TBA(Frank Carter and the Sex Pistols) Yannis and the Yaw, Osees, Man/Woman/Chainsaw, Crack Cloud

I’ve got tins of beans that are more relevant then the 1975 Pure nepo baby playing want to be rockstar with sh*t rock/pop for the kiddies

Whose headliner picks are the facts? Who keeps the secret sets under wraps? We do, we do!

It's crazy (and very sad to me) to think about how things changed in a few years. I came to NOS Alive for the first time in 2016 (and then came back again the year after). 3-day tickets were 119€ and we got Radiohead, The Chemical Brothers, Arcade Fire, Tame Impala, Pixies, Robert Plant, Foals, M83, Biffy Clyro, Two Door Cinema Club, The 1975, Wolf Alice, Father John Misty, Band Of Horses, Grimes, Soulwax, Hot Chip, 2ManyDJs, John Grant, Calexico, Jose Gonzalez, Four Tet, Courtney Barnett and some others (Paus among local bands, amazing live set). It was one of the best festivals on Earth both in terms of quality acts and value and was plenty of music passionates from all over Europe (sold out months in advance, obviously). Now we're discussing wether the new pop star or the old rock band are able to sell 50k 200€-tickets by themselves... But festivals should be much more and NOS Alive used to be much more than this, only a few years ago.

No it doesn’t let’s clear this up …. It chucks a shed load of names at it and hopes mud sticks … the journalism on there is f**king awful and f**k the scum . Glad people have had the sense not to link that comic

Electronic Music - 27 artists Anyma, Armin Van Buuren, Boris Brejcha, Justice 999999999, Adriatique, Bedouin, The Blessed Madonna, Brutalismus 3000, Carlita, Desiree, Dixon, Ekkstacy, Eliza Rose, Elli Acula, Estella Boersma, Fatima Hajji, Fatima Yamaha, Fjaak, Honeyluv, Hot Since 82, I Hate Models, Korolova, Kolsch, Noga Erez, Sama Abdulhadi, Young Marco Live Music - 16 artists Chappell Roan, Charli XCX, Nelly Furtado, Papa Roach Blossoms, Ecca Vandal, Fat Dog, Kenya Grace, Kneecap, Luvcat, Palaye Royale, Riles, Rory, Ry X, Scarlet Pleasure, Zaho De Sagazan

I've no experience of booking festival line ups but I know enough about them to say that it's nowhere near as simplistic as many people on this forum believe. All this talk about specific days being curated for a particular demographic, massively misses the main points which are a) when artists are available and b) what are they willing to do? If, for instance, LP or ORod are free that weekend, and RW want them as headliners, then the fact of the matter is they will book them on whatever day they are available. I doubt all these massive acts go to RW first every year and ask, 'When would you like us to play? All the other festivals taking place in Europe that weekend can work around you so just tell us what you want and we'll sort it?' Reality is that the whole negotiation process is a big game of chess, with the main objective being to get the acts you want on your line up at a price that's agreeable. It's an added bonus if you can get them to play on a specific day but Glastonbury is really the only summer festival that has that sort of pulling power. There's also far too many people making definitive judgements about the line up when it's nowhere near complete. If you don't like the look of it now, no problem - hold off for a bit but accept that it might sell out in the meantime and you can't go. The other alternative is to book your ticket now, knowing there's a chance it won't live up to your expectations - that's the gamble you take in these situations. However, if you're into music and festivals then the likelihood is you'll have an amazing weekend whatever the final outcome is!

Generally I think this lineup has been pretty well received? I know on festileaks (Dutch language forum similar to here) most the feedback has been pretty positive and ticket sales seem to match this with two days sold out already. It's far too early to say that combi tickets aren't selling or anything else as we have no data on this and they usually wouldn't sell out in a good year until the spring anyway. Compared to competition like Mad Cool I'm not sure there's much you can be looking at on their lineup with jealousy. Would you really take Kings of Leon over Linkin Park for example, who have just sold out an EU stadium run and are one of the most in demand acts this summer? Personally I've got a combi ticket for the first time and think it's probably one of the stronger and more varied Werchter lineups in a while, hence why I've finally decided to go. Sunday for example, which has been subject to some criticism, has two BST sell out headliners in Noah Kahan and Olivia Rodrigo, plus Olivia is likely to headline Glasto too. It's hard to objectively complain about them being a weak booking based on the number of tickets they can sell, as also shown by their day just selling out. If you really hate that genre of music, that's another thing, but there will be 4 stages that day. If that still isn't enough, then maybe other more genre focused festivals like Rock Im Ring or Download would be more relevant to you anyway. I'm not sure Werchter, having booked high profile acts like Black Eyed Peas, Pink, Macklemore, Kendrick, Stormzy and Dua Lipa has ever been that festival. I think the diversity of Rock Werchter's lineup is one of its strengths and matches how lots of people consume music across different genres and have eclectic tastes. The great thing about music festivals is the diversity of current options, and I find the constantly negativity sometimes tiring. I understand there are good and down years given who tours and is available. However, if you look across a whole summer of different lineups in festivals in different countries and can't find something you like, at what point is the issue more with you than the festivals?

It's fake 👀

The Hard Quartet, the new act from Stephen Malkmus, added to the Friday. A nice addition.

Disbelieving good sources didn’t have anything to do with how eFests lost in-the-know members. That was due to the previous owner, and I’m pretty sure we agree on that. I’m aware who the knowledgeable posters used to be here and if they post elsewhere now, good for that community. They’ll be missed here and I hope they return. But I disagree that the primary reason people are here is to get ahead of announcements. I think people post (or lurk) to be part of a community; to get exited, and to enjoy the hype. The idea that it’s all about inside info is a bit dated. People just want to feel part of if, imo.

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O-Rod will be a party.

Completely fake news I’m afraid. We’ve never had any into on MBV and whilst we do have Yungblud listed as a rumour, that came from efests in the first place and is stated as such Had a Quick look through your posting history and all you’ve done is post incorrect rumours citing OOF as your source. @Alvoram might be worth looking into this poster as incorrectly trying to stir between the two platforms

Thank f**k

They will be there. Not unusual that the announcement changes at the final moment. Same with the first drop of 14 names.

As things are standing right now, this will be the final 4 of the main. But not every act is a 100% for each spot right now, some other things still in the works.

'It's just banter' isn't the get out of jail card you seem to think it is, Gregg.

Meet me by the flag! 🥳

Potential final update for 2024 - apologies for all the inevitable hypothetical clashes! Definitely some names I should've included (The Script, Courteeners, Scissor Sisters, The Lathums) and some names I really wanted to include (Sabrina Carpenter, 50 Cent/Mary J. Blige, Weezer, Knocked Loose, Doves, RTJ) but this is the best I could come up with! Friday: Pyramid - The 1975, Paramore, Wet Leg, Alanis Morissette, Smokey Robinson, Travis, Cat Burns Other Stage - Loyle Carner, Deftones, Gracie Abrams, Franz Ferdinand, Inhaler, CMAT, Cast, Hard-Fi (openers) West Holts - Ezra Collective, Khruangbin, Denzel Curry, JPEGMAFIA, Magdalena Bay, Yussef Dayes, Cymande, Master Peace Woodsies - Underworld, The Wombats, TBA (Biffy Clyro), Ethel Cain, Lola Young, Alfie Templeman, Andrew Cushin, SOFY The Park - St. Vincent, Beach House, Laura Marling, Lauren Mayberry, Geordie Greep, Faye Webster, The Lemon Twigs Saturday: Pyramid - Neil Young, Jack White, YUNGBLUD, Public Enemy, Snow Patrol, Train, Olly Murs Other Stage - Charli xcx, Jorja Smith, The Libertines, Beabadoobee, Nieve Ella, Rizzle Kicks, The K's, Kula Shaker West Holts - Basement Jaxx, Goat, Pa Salieu, Doechii, Kneecap, Nilufer Yanya, Caravan Palace, Pozer Woodsies - King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard, The Kooks, Wunderhorse, Myles Smith, The Chats, Fat Dog, Jordan Adetunji, Sprints The Park - The Maccabees, Father John Misty, Parcels, English Teacher, TBA (Haim), Elmiene, Jessica Pratt Sunday: Pyramid - Olivia Rodrigo, Chappell Roan, Nile Rodgers & Chic, Rod Stewart, Madness, Sigrid, Belinda Carlisle Other Stage - The Prodigy, Jamie T, Tate McRae, Blossoms, Kaiser Chiefs, Griff, Jake Bugg, Red Rum Club West Holts - FKA twigs, Maribou State, Cypress Hill, FLO, Shygirl, Hak Baker, Ibibio Sound Machine, Shabaka Woodsies - Pendulum, Clairo, TBA (Kings of Leon), The Japanese House, Alessi Rose, Wishy, The Royston Club, Competition Winner The Park - Amyl and the Sniffers, Future Islands, Beth Gibbons, Kelly Lee Owens, Osees, Katy J Pearson

How is this sad news? It's only encouraging that this choice is paying off, no? I would even agree if this was a small name, but Rodrigo is huge (2 times Sportpaleis). If they can only sell out because of older names, then they would have a problem for the future.... It's these newer headliners (and festival goers) that give them the opportunity to go on for another 50 years.

This one time... at Coachella...

Jesus christ. So good. Been wanting to hug everyone all day and constantly on the verge of tears

somebody hacked this account me thinks. Macca and Michael would say differently if there was a real argument about "bigger". Why is Beatlemania still being examined 60 years and counting? Taylor cured the planet with her music after a president got assassinated? Thought so. Billboard had it right when they gave Beyonce best artist last 25 years when they said that Taylor only sells but Beyonce actually had an impact on the culture. I mean putting thousands of people into crippling credit card debt should not be seen as an act of valor.

I’ve been silently observing from the wings and this love in for a band that are best described as a rock parody act is frankly sickening. the lead singer is a full blown prat that grew up in privilege and now wants to come across as some working class rebel when in actual fact he’s just weird

And on the topic of people whinging about other people whinging, it's borderline £400! I think you're entitled to your own view when there's that much of your own money being put in. I personally don't care about the line-up as I've been enough now that I'm just buzzing to be back on the farm, but if I wasn't and had committed to spending £375 on a ticket + Car Park Pass + Travel Arrangements + Camping Equipment + Spending Money etc on 6 headliners I actively dislike - I'd have a big whinge on a forum too. There is of course the option of forfeiting £75 during a cost of living crisis, but I think most will chance their luck. Let people be raging they're spending their hard-earned money on a line-up they hate, and just reassure them they'll be grand. Chill. The last two years have been a drop-off, in my opinion, after the 50th in terms of objective household name star power and bucket list acts, but maybe that's the way it's going and that is fine by me personally. But it's also fine if you're gutted because you wanted to see at least one of your favourite "Triple A" acts. Personally, I hope they're all bad info x

Until it gets fixed!

Wordle knows.

I think people are very much underestimating Neil Young, either that or I'm completely missing the mark. He's been my favourite artist for about ten years and I'm currently 31, plenty of my friends love him too from the ages of about 25 to 35 whilst not being able to name a song by Olivia Rodrigo or a Charlie XCX whilst obviously knowing who they are. I'll caveat this by saying this may be coming from a place of bias but I really didn't think we were that much of an outlier, I have a eclectic taste in music - I'm not one of those that won't listen to anything made after the 70s! With regards to age or ability to put on a show, have you bother to watch any of his performances from the last couple of years? There's no where near the drop off in most artists his age and I'd argue he's held up at least as well as a McCartney and definitely better than Elton. One of the best songwriters of all time and one of the best guitarists of all time over both the electric and acoustic and would be classed as such by his peers and we are talking about metrics? Maybe he won't get the young crowd but the last time I checked the crowd wasn't known for being young at Glasto, one of the older average ages I would guess?!

I've just gone Gold. 😀 Happy to support the site that I've been lurking on for years....

Yeah but if Michael's happy at this stage who gives a sht.

Happy New year for tomorrow 🎇 Has anyone got any New Years Eve plans? As a boring parent who will be staying in, it would be nice to hear about what other people are getting up to ☺️

Happy New Year all. Now to look forward to 2-3 weeks time when we get a load more names and the stage splits 🎉🎉

Merry Christmas to you all

My POV

Moderator CW: Disturbing images I don't want this to be political or personal. I'm no supporter of Israel's government or their conduct in the war. I don't want to silence protest. But this really is a thoughtless response, and given that I provoked it I should explain my thinking. I note that my comment has so far received four downvotes and no upvotes (and @Colorblindjames has got an upvote for his), which suggests that members of this forum tend to disagree with me. I invite anyone who does to get in touch - I have my own biases and am always learning. But I think there is something about Kneecap's social media output that is profoundly illiberal. It is possible to be pro-Palestinian and also wrong. Here are a few tweets from the last 10 days that I think present an issue: I've got a few issues with this image, but let's just take the main one. This picture features the six-pointed star that is widely seen as a symbol of the Jews, blended with a Nazi swastika. I think it would be completely wrong to distort the Israeli flag in this way, but this is not the Israeli flag. This would be a powerful political image without the star, but with it a line has obviously been crossed. Really this couldn't be much clearer. Google Holocaust inversion. Firstly, these signs do or did exist and they're really grim. From what I can see they were created by an Israeli campaigning organisation - so by Israelis - and obviously not by the state of Israel, and the image is of people walking (fleeing is probably the more accurate word). I don't think it's weird to consider accuracy important, but my main issue isn't with that. On successive days Kneecap described Israel as "the most depraved regime on earth" and "the most evil force on earth". They may consider Israel's government to be reprehensible, repulsive. I wouldn't have an issue with them saying so. But literally as I type mass graves are being excavated in Syria, Iran is ruled by Islamist extremists who murder women for showing their hair and pour billions into genocidal militias, a Saudi regime that led a war in Yemen that killed (estimates vary) around 400,000 people has used the death penalty to execute more than 300 this year. Sadly I could go on. So what is it about the world's only Jewish state, I wonder, that makes them "the most evil" or "the most depraved" on earth? I'm sure I could find much more and worse if I did a deeper trawl. Like I say, I think they regularly cross the line and that their social media activity (I've no idea what they say at their concerts) should set off alarm bells among all people who consider themselves liberal/considerate/anti-racist, which I hope includes most of us on this forum. I'm sorry to have derailed this thread. Now I'm off to see Paul McCartney.

Royel Otis are playing Park, which I'm very happy about. On Kneecap - swear I heard Other Stage bandied about. I may have imagined that, but I'll predict it regardless of info.

Got the covers ready to go on … need to do some internals and also add some bits and pieces to them before they do

Forums are full of people with opinions. Thousands of them. And their opinions often differ. My opinion is that Sziget has failed to fully outline its direction for 2025. We have no idea what the next announcement will look like. And we should. Their first announcement was all over the place. It was weighted towards EDM, yet the headliners were weighted more towards pop, and in there was Kneecap and Papa Roach..... I get the feeling of a festival that has lost its way and doesn't really know what it wants to be. That might be wrong, but how are we to know? I always viewed it as a very cool festival with a bit of everything, like a mini Glastonbury. That's how I described it to people. I now have no idea how to describe it.

Just goes to show, every party you go to, there’s always one twat with a guitar singing Wonderwall.

The only reason that it is so crowded now is the fact that people now bring much bigger tents now. There is the same area available for camping and far more people camp in WV, Sticklinch and offsite camping than used to. The tent that I bring for myself now probably has a larger footprint than the one I used to use for the whole family. I’ve quite often seen a multi room family tent used by a couple or even individuals. If you bring a small tent you will probably be able to squeeze it in somewhere centrally. I remember one year the guy camping next to me turned up with a wheelybin full of Stella. Sold the Stella (£1.50 each 3 for a fiver), brought gear with the proceeds and slept in the bin. You don’t get that now

Chappell’s gonna get biggest crowd of the weekend imo.

I'm hoping for Wet Leg, The Last Dinner Party, Romy & Nothing But Thieves. Would also love to see Jungle again! And if they'd add Robyn, I'd be more than satisfied 🥰

The hilarious thing about Neil Young is that 15 years ago people were saying the exact same thing as if it was some badge of honour - "I couldn't name a single Neil Young song if I tried!" His popularity hasn't increased in this time, he hasn't had any hits, but nor has it waned. He didn't really help himself by leaving Spotify for a few years, and you'll rarely hear his music in any films or on TV, but that's why he is so legendary - he has remained true to his muse and his art. I would argue he was once the perfect Glastonbury act, but the festival has changed a lot in the past 15 years. In my opinion he's not far off The Cure in terms of status - a few well-known songs, but ultimately an enormous following of dedicated and committed fans. Take this with a pinch of salt, but it's my belief (through various friends who really aren't trustworthy!) that the Eavis's were after Neil Young & Crazy Horse for many years. If he is indeed booked for 2025, my guess would be that CH were booked, but due to illness within the camp, Neil has had to come up with an alternative backing band quickly, hence the emergence of the Chrome Hearts. Promise of the Real are on an extended hiatus, which is a shame as although Chrome Hearts are fantastic (and essentially POTR anyway), I think POTR would have been the perfect choice nowadays. For any doubters, no, you probably won't know many songs, but there was a time that wasn't the point. If you want to listen only to songs you know, in the order that you've already seen on setlist.fm, you can easily stay at home and listen to Spotify. I reckon he'd nail it. Again.

For what it's worth I'm going as a group of 12 with an age range of 28-33 and absolutely none of us plan to see Rod Stewert. Compard to most of us seeing Elton previously. I think the older crowd have a warped perception on Rod's popularity