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I don’t think it’s just the blue wall types, but the middle class, liberals worried for their nice houses and cars. At the end of the day labour can go into an election talking about reducing sentences and rehabilitation and feel a nice warm fuzzy feeling when they come second.

His record with Rangers was decent , but if it had been Mark Warbuton who had won the league with them, we all know he wouldn’t have got the Villa job.

In some ways the detail is irrelevant from a political perspective. Labour want to get the message out that they are tough on crime to ease concerns of voters who think they are not. I think this campaign (in isolation) will make little difference. However the overall message could. Politicians (of all colours) have stretched and twisted statistics as far as I have known. Some people seem to want labour to fight this “fair” fight knowing if you have come second you have done the right thing. If you are a middle class lefty with a decent bank balance I can see why you may have that view. Those living on the line need a Labour government.

I assumed he sentenced to the law set by the legislature?

It’s funny how picking your manager based on his managerial achievements rather than his playing achievements gets better results!

It’s not a left/right issue, but it’s an issue that politicians have tried to turn in a culture wall. The debate is too often defined by people on either extreme, ignoring the view of those looking for some sensible middle ground which will make trans people feel a little more equal. Like Middle East politics, it’s not something that is going to resonate with the average person in an election.

I can guarantee all the swing voters in my office will never see this video. Those getting excited on twitter will generally be conservatives (who won’t vote labour) or Corbynites (some will, some won’t). As for Starmer being seen as a flip flopper. I think the default view of the public is all politicians are like this, I don’t see it doing much damage.

In British democratic history? How many years do you think that covers?

I did A level (admittedly not degree level like Owen) History. There were times when British politics was riddled (even more than now) with corruption. If we are talking most dishonest ever then even Boris probably isn’t in contention. It’s naive to think political dishonesty started with the smartphone and twitter. I have low expectations of Jones, but he should be better than this kind of sensationalist (click bait) bullshit.

The regression in VVD over the last couple of years is amazing. I think 2/3 years ago he was as good as any defender in the world, he is no longer in that conversation.

Oxbridge has obviously gone downhill if people come out with a history degree and make that kind of assessment.

Latest wisdom from labour supporter Owen Jones Genuinely think Keir Starmer and Boris Johnson are the two most dishonest frontline politicians in British democratic history

They don’t want to give the torys ammunition for their attack adverts. However ask the question which party will be the best for NHS, social care and workers in power.

Most of the public are scared by rocking the boat too much, we can wave a magic wand and make everyone think like us, or try to find common ground. The trouble is some on the left would rather come second being pure than first with compromise. Some may have the bank account to afford that way of thinking, others are not so fortunate.

I suspect Starmer will think if he is upsetting people on twitter he is probably on the right line.

I’m not even sure what a centrist is. It seems to be a term made up by left wingers to mock those on the centre left who want to get things done. To me a centrist is the person in my office who spends zero times discussing politics beyond an election, voted for Blair, Cameron and ( through gritted teeth as they didn’t like Jez) Boris.

I honestly don’t believe there is any more bickering in labour than the tories or SNP. I think twitter makes divisions look bigger than they are.

Just like Jez it’s a much more fun job being leader of the opposition.

To be honest I don’t think there is a huge amount of difference between labour, snp and Lib Dem. I think they are all occupying similar political space.

I always thought labour minority government was the most likely and that’s how I still feel. I am not sure who these progressive and more imaginative partners would be. The Greens would consider it a major success if they doubled from 1 mp to 2.

The polls were always going to tighten, I don’t think there is anyone in labour who had not anticipated that. I agree that labour need to be a broad coalition, the fact is in FPTP not every voter is of equal value. If losing a left wing vote in Liverpool gains a red wall vote in Bolton, overall you are better off. These are calculations all parties will make. FPTP also means people will vote tactically and not for the party that beat reflect their views. It’s easy to say you will punish labour now. However in Wrexham (my old constituency) a vote against labour is effectively a vote for the Tory candidate.

If you are going by those types of tenuous connections, I doubt there is a clean politician out there. It’s not like he has made Rolf Harris his chief of staff.

They need to send Rishi out with a taser on some of the roughest streets in the country. Having seen him try to fill up a car with Petrol and use a contactless cash card, what could possibly go wrong!

I think it depends where you live. Many on the left who preach about leniency and rehabilitation would run a mile from the most deprived areas of the country. I see people who constantly live on edge living in blocks of flats where alcohol and drug abuse and crime is rampant. I can completely understand why they favour tougher action on crime.

Don’t the DPP work within parameters set by the government?