Stokes Bay Festival 2009

[Medina]

P.P.S. And having just read Alan Scard's earlier rant, I fear that he's either on something illegal or else he's showing himself up to be the complete nutter that we all know him to be!

[olgrumpyfy]

P.S. And he's completely (no doubt deliberately) wrong on his location and description of the Festival site! We are not at Brune Park School. We are on the playing fields of the Bay House School which is right by Stokes Bay. If Mr Scard can't even get that right, what hope is there for the poor old boy?

[Medina]

Silly boy Peter! I might be many things, but Alan I ain't!

My bite is far worse than my bark.

[olgrumpyfy]

Theatening now eh Alan?

And I know you are Alan - I also know you had difficulty logging in earlier today because you hadn't posted on this board for a full year since criticising last year's festival!

[Medina]

How's the weather over in Tolpuddle? We know the same people, it would seem.........

[olgrumpyfy]

It would seem not as I've never set foot in Tolpuddle and haven't even driven through the place for at least 20 years.

[paddington]

oh for the love of all that's holy. Is there going to be any camping, and if so where?

[desiderata]

oh for the love of all that's holy. Is there going to be any camping, and if so where?

[leeman]

For heaven's sakes, stop your juvenile bickering - you're not in the playground now. Just tell poor Paddington where the campsite (might) be, or are you too chicken to tell the truth i.e. that it's on a school playing field 1/2 mile away from the festival, on an old landfill site prone to severe flooding, according to the Environment Agency.

Best of British to you, just don't forget to bring your flippers!

And I'm not a councillor or friend of stokes bay - just an ordinary member of the public who happens to consider other members of the public. I only know this year's festival is in a completely unsuitable venue and I for one won't be attending.

[olgrumpyfy]

Lets just break this down so we can all understand.

The proposed campsite is only a short walk from the festival site.

The site is licenced to the caravan and camping club for rallies.

The planning officers at Gosport Council have found no reason why permission should not be granted for its use as the camping field for the festival.

In fact they say in their report:

'there will be no difference in planning terms between the site being used by the Camping and Caravanning Club and the current proposal in terms of the impact on residential amenity and as such the requirements of Policy R/DP1 are met'

however on their rejection letter they say:

'The proposed use will result in a large number of people coming and going from the site through a residential area which would result in disturbance to occupiers of the houses in that area and a loss of their residential amenity contrary to Policy R/DP1 of the Gosport Borough Local Plan Review'

Note that one minute its OK with R/DP1 and then its not. That really shows you that the decision was purely Political.

If you click on the 14 07 2009 link here

http://www.gosport.gov.uk/sections/democra...d/agendas/2009/

it will open a pdf file which details the planning officers recommendation (page 29 to 32 of the pdf).

[greenfairy43]

Is a festival forum really the best place to be having your personal/political spats?

It's all a bit playground really isn't it?

[Medina]

Is a festival forum really the best place to be having your personal/political spats?

It's all a bit playground really isn't it?

Edited July 23, 2009 by Medina

[leeman]

Is a festival forum really the best place to be having your personal/political spats?

It's all a bit playground really isn't it?

[Medina]

I'm sure you would agree that it would be a bit difficult discussing a non-existent festival.

[leeman]

I am not going to start in on Medina. The facts are here, in the preceding message links, to be considered by all interested parties.

However FACTS are facts.

FACT: The campsite planning application was for 500 vehicles, with occupants. Camping on such a scale requires proper management and disturbance was one of those management issues: not the fact of campers, but the regular mass transit to and from the camp site. There was also an issue over the probable mass movement, twice per day, of 500 venicles between the two sites. This would have required Police Traffic control at five positions along the route and at alternative junctions (see objections).

FACT: The "short walk" from the proposed campsite to the Festival Site is 1.7 miles. (measure it on Google Earth, as I did).

FACT: The alternative site is larger and not in close proximity to housing. It does not require a license. It is subject to simple commercial agreement between Event Organiser and Council.

FACT:: The alternative, offered, is 0.4 miles from the Festival Site.

[Privett]

As usual you are all missing the point. The planning application for the school field in Gomer Lane to be used for car parking and camping HAS BEEN REFUSED by Gosport Borough Council. If Medina tries to use it as a camp site he will be breaking the law and will have to suffer the consequences.

It was his cavilier attitude at last year's council meeting that has led him to be disqualified as a borough and county councillor for the next two years.

[Beatnik]

My Gran lives in Gosport and I'm pretty sure she didn't notice the festival happen last year

[leeman]

As usual you are all missing the point. The planning application for the school field in Gomer Lane to be used for car parking and camping HAS BEEN REFUSED by Gosport Borough Council. If Medina tries to use it as a camp site he will be breaking the law and will have to suffer the consequences.

It was his cavilier attitude at last year's council meeting that has led him to be disqualified as a borough and county councillor for the next two years.

[Beatnik]

Further proof that we didn't upset local Grandmothers last year!

[Beatnik]

As usual you are all missing the point. The planning application for the school field in Gomer Lane to be used for car parking and camping HAS BEEN REFUSED by Gosport Borough Council. If Medina tries to use it as a camp site he will be breaking the law and will have to suffer the consequences.

It was his cavilier attitude at last year's council meeting that has led him to be disqualified as a borough and county councillor for the next two years.

[desiderata]

Just out of interest, how come the other festival, run by the Council, can take place there, when this one was pushed off because of complaints from local residents? It's a puzzle, isn't it?

[Medina]

As understand it this field is already used by the camping and caravanning club and therefore is clearly suitable for camping and there is clearly a precedent.

[Medina]

P.S. As for the latest rubbish from Desiderata, I started the Festival on Walpole Park back in 1991.

You can't even get your facts right on that!

[desiderata]

P.S. As for the latest rubbish from Desiderata, I started the Festival on Walpole Park back in 1991.

[Medina]

OK, I stand corrected on Walpole Park, don't mind being proved wrong. But the rest of the 'rubbish' still stands.