Spiringsteen

[oafc0000]

You mean when he opened with the Oasis sing-a-long? Yep, it was a class pisstake of the plonker Noel.

The fact remains he out-performed Bruce.

[eFestivals]

Must...resist...the...obvious...comment...

Regardless of the spurious logic, saying that 'x' outperformed 'y' is still an opinion. And nothing more.

wrong. It can be measured via the responses to the performance.

What is opinion - because I don't have any accurate data with which to verify it - are my take on the responses to those specific performances.

A million other things that one person might be looking for and another isn't?

While that might apply on an individual basis, in a crowd of 50,000+ such things average out.

Edited July 1, 2009 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

Someone like to make a poll?

Rod Stewart, surely? Or Stereophonics?

I didn't say "the very worst".

(Anyhow, Rod was only a headliner in the slot he played and what he demanded written into his contract. He wasn't considered to be the headliner by the festival).

[pinback]

I didn't say "the very worst".

(Anyhow, Rod was only a headliner in the slot he played and what he demanded written into his contract. He wasn't considered to be the headliner by the festival).

[Swindlebiscuit]

except you're doing that poor reading thing again.

Nowhere have I said anyone is an idiot for liking him.

What I have said is that some are idiots for denying that lots thought him awful.

[alframsey]

Why on earth are people pandering to the ignorance and/or winding up of this guy?

The prevailing high quality of Springsteen's body of work including his untold thousands of live performances speaks for itself.

That same body of work may well reveal a limited innovative spark in the sense of music's broader creative vein. I doubt the man's most avid fan would claim Springsteen has pushed back musical boundaries. It may also at times have descended into the territory of blandness. The proof of those particular puddings are there for all to see in the weaknesses of Human Touch and the more mundane chunks of some of his more recent albums.

That said, the overriding excellence of Springsteen's musical contributions is unquestionable. It may not appeal to all and sundry but to deny the basic fact is to betray ignorance of popular music's wider spectrum.

The man's greatness now spans four decades. So we witness the scintillating supernova spark of Blinded by the Light and the unbearably resigned bleakness of The Wrestler. Amazing songs penned and performed 40 years apart. Forty years. Bookend testmonies to the enduring greatness of a major major talent still capable of enriching the art base of the finest popular music.

E-Festvals may have instigated a popular website. Judging by his pathological delusions regarding the alleged blandness of a truly magnificent artist I'd say he's far from fit nor worthy of posting in it.

E-Fest, you may honestly think you're cool. The fact is you're a complete and utter tit. Your drivel within this thread bears witness.

[dtox]

I'm trying to decide whether this eFestivals chap is really this far gone or this is just an attempt to keep up traffic post festival.

Thoughts anyone?

[alframsey]

You Bruce nutters are priceless.

You yourself admit he's bland in the bits I haven't bothered to quote. Yet apparently, I have a pathological delusion for saying the same as you.

I don't think I'm cool, I just think I'm me.

The complete and utter tit is you, thinking I don't have the same rights to my own opinion as you give yourself.

Any more of you nutters out there? This is all comedy genuis.

[oafc0000]

*seattles down for the fight*

[eFestivals]

No, you're not calling them idiots. Just "nutters" and fans of "bland crap" whenever they disagree with you. Big difference...I suppose?

They're not being called nutters for disagreeing, t6hey're being called nutters for doing the nutty things they're doing - denying that lots of people thought him crap. This thread is full of such denials - get over it.

I still stand by my point that you're basically enjoying waving the red rag of troll.

If anyone want to keep on charging at me, I'll keep on waving that red rag until someone sticks that lance in their backs.

[ml1dch]

This thread - even when ignoring my posts - demonstrates VERY clearly that an awful lot of people who went to see him found him to be dreadful, bland, and one of the worst headliners ever to grace the Glastonbury stage.

Edited July 1, 2009 by ml1dch

[chrisdebag]

I'm trying to decide whether this eFestivals chap is really this far gone or this is just an attempt to keep up traffic post festival.

Thoughts anyone?

[eFestivals]

It is very true that anyone who denies Springsteen's contribution to music, or his ability to write fantastic songs, is a fool!

Springsteen has made a contribution to music. Whether or not that's a good contribution is a matter of opinion, nowt more.

(But seeing as even the Springsteen fans have happily stated here that he's been far from cutting edge right thru-out his career, then I think it's pretty clear that Springsteen's contribution has mostly been just another entry in the catalogue .... and even The Smurfs can claim that!).

His ability to write fantastic music is also a matter of opinion. The fool is the one thinking that it's not down to opinion.

[Swindlebiscuit]

Someone send this man to Pamplona and let him run riot

Can we at least all agree that Status Quo redefined what live music is all about?

[oafc0000]

Springsteen has made a contribution to music. Whether or not that's a good contribution is a matter of opinion, nowt more.

(But seeing as even the Springsteen fans have happily stated here that he's been far from cutting edge right thru-out his career, then I think it's pretty clear that Springsteen's contribution has mostly been just another entry in the catalogue .... and even The Smurfs can claim that!).

His ability to write fantastic music is also a matter of opinion. The fool is the one thinking that it's not down to opinion.

[oafc0000]

Someone send this man to Pamplona and let him run riot

Can we at least all agree that Status Quo redefined what live music is all about?

[eFestivals]

I'm trying to decide whether this eFestivals chap is really this far gone or this is just an attempt to keep up traffic post festival.

Thoughts anyone?

These forums worked fine prior to the addition to a load of springsteen nutters and will still work fine once they've gone.

In case you've failed to notice, there's a whole summer of festivals, and things are getting busier not quieter.

It's my opinion, OK? I'm as entitled to it as the likes of you are to thinking he farts perfume. The more you try to deny my right to my opinion, the more I'll take the piss out of your stupidity.

[alframsey]

I'm trying to decide whether this eFestivals chap is really this far gone or this is just an attempt to keep up traffic post festival.

Thoughts anyone?

[dtox]

you are totally right it is trolling to cause people to froth at the mouth and reply in anger

i remember back in december or january when bruce was about to be confirmed neil was all up for it then but has since sounded like a madman on meths

i think it is quite funny and rather sad in a way

i knew he was trolling when he said 3 minutes was enough for him and he wasnt even singing one of his own songs at the time

[eFestivals]

you are correct - an awful lot of people definitely didn't like it. The majority clearly enjoyed it though. Would you agree with that?

Why wouldn't I? I've not even hinted at things being different to that.

[oafc0000]

If one is to troll their own forum for the purpose of keeping up traffic, is it not best to at least use a sockpuppet? Being rude and irrational while being the face of your business can't be good for keeping people coming here long term, surely.

Edited July 1, 2009 by oafc0000

[alframsey]

Springsteen has made a contribution to music. Whether or not that's a good contribution is a matter of opinion, nowt more.

(But seeing as even the Springsteen fans have happily stated here that he's been far from cutting edge right thru-out his career, then I think it's pretty clear that Springsteen's contribution has mostly been just another entry in the catalogue .... and even The Smurfs can claim that!).

His ability to write fantastic music is also a matter of opinion. The fool is the one thinking that it's not down to opinion.

[eFestivals]

i remember back in december or january when bruce was about to be confirmed neil was all up for it then but has since sounded like a madman on meths

The sad f**ker is you. I'm simply stating my opinion that I think him bland crap - and proven live - while the likes of you think it wrong for me to have a negative opinion. Get over yourself.

i knew he was trolling when he said 3 minutes was enough for him and he wasnt even singing one of his own songs at the time

And I know you're a moron due to you resorting to posting what you know to be lies as some sort of stupid and pathetic way to try to invalidate my valid opinion.

I know a large enough amount of Springsteen's catalogue to know what he's like. The TWO songs I heard were enough for me to realise that he's identically bland live.

[spoiledff7]

That makes no sense. I was right there watching him.

Rubbish, I was looking forward to him, I'd heard great things.

I couldn't see him or the screens from the mixing desk because of all the flippin' flags but I was listening and he took no time to talk to the crowd at all.

Can you back that up in any way whatsoever? It was fairly busy but hardly a crush?

The main thing that I have noticed is that Bruce Springsteen fans are a little bit mental and seem to think that everybody else has to love him as much as they do.

I thought he was OK but no big deal.

[eFestivals]

No he hasn't been at the top his whole career, but its a career that spans 40 years!!! How can you expect him to be. There are aspects of Pink Floyd's work which is bland, but they are still considered one of the greatest bands of all time, same goes for the stones and zeppelin and the beatles!!! But why does it make springsteen so average?

Look, what don't you get?

The songs which the Springsteen nutters spent the last 6 months claiming to be his very best I find not particularly different to those I know which I think his very worst. So IMO, he has a 40 year career of bland.

Yes, there's aspects of other 'classic' acts which I can consider bland too, but not their whole output (or as much of it as I might have heard) which is what I think is the case with Bruce. He does nothing musically in that 40 years which hasn't been done before (which isn't the case with any of the acts you name above), and they certainly are not as musically as middle of the road as him. I don't do middle of the road bland for any act, 40 year career or 40 minute career.