Spiringsteen

[albietrue2]

If this thread is going to go on forever,can somebody please correct the bloody title!!!

Spiringsteen indeed!?! ?

[reni]

Yes I agree with you all.

[laid back in the sun]

Hmm..I would love to agree with you too!!!

[reni]

for £200 an hour she'll agree to anything.... including listening to the blandest springsteen album

[BlackHole2006]

if there's one thing I hate in music, it's the notion by singer songwriters that cracked voice + slow ponderous piano chords = meaningful, emotional music that must be taken seriously.

[eFestivals]

Isn't what you really mean - why the f**k would anyone in their right mind try and elicit a sensible response from a complete tosser?

And there we have it folks. Anyone who doesn't like Bruce is a complete tosser.

I'm sure Bruce is very proud to count the sorts of people making statements like that as his fans.

[eFestivals]

It's funny, even with the moderate (?) amount of success my band had, I remember some of the fans who 'followed' us around, were a little bit creepy ... I'd guess that's the case with most performers

That aside, someone sent me a piece the other day which someone had written about how Springsteen fans just won't accept that some people don't like him (which I've resisted posting here, it'll just piss the nutters off even further ). It's clearly a solid trait for a significant number of his fans, as this thread has show (you included at times too).

[eFestivals]

and I can't tell you the number of conversations I've had with people trying to convince me that he's not actually any good, and I must be 'mistaken' in my enthusiam for him

that's as maybe, but it's not what I've done here - I've simply stated that's what I thought of him, along with mentioning that a large number of others that I asked felt the same. Some people tried to tell me that it just wasn't possible.

[daveinafield]

after the 1,000th post im sure this thread will begin to loose interest for me....if my will to live does not cave in first

[albietrue2]

on this evidence I have to agree...

but we're not all like him/her... honest (that's 'we're' in the loosest term... I flinch from including myself in any general group of humans)

It's funny, even with the moderate (?) amount of success my band had, I remember some of the fans who 'followed' us around, were a little bit creepy ... I'd guess that's the case with most performers

[eFestivals]

Yet you haven't the balls to maintain your original stance re his garbage in case you offend the guy.

Not sure who's the most pathetic. You or him.

The thing I'm being offended most by here is the gross stupidity being shown by the likes of you. There's nowt 'garbage' or 'pathetic' in thinking Bruce is crap. If I think Bruce is crap - and I'm far from the only one as this thread clearly shows - then I cannot be wrong about my own opinion but you seem to think I am.

But hey, I'll pretend to be you for a moment and ask if you're still finding the Smurfs better than Bruce?

[cejx]

f*cking hell. Is this thread still going on? Jesus! For the record, I also think he's rubbish, along with a lot of other MOR tedious music... but then again a lot of the stuff I like folk hate! Surely no one is right or wrong on this thread if its their opinion?! Though, maybe I'm a little bit right, as he is shit! :-)

[srvman]

look it was a big name...wasn't as great as everyone thought or didnt think he would be.....

would you have prefered the stereophonics/razorlite to headline?

[Red_Eye_Jedi]

I have not read all the thread because come on, have you seen the size of it?

Well, I didn't know much about the springsteen, I was shocked by the bad joe strummer cover.. god awful, and then it just got worse.. so I walked off and saw the gringo ska band, who were 10000 times better than "the best live act in the world" well thats my imput anyway

[josephg]

Ha

You clearly haven't perused all of E-Fest's garbage in this thread Billy or you wouldn't have said that

[Billy09]

He has said far more annoying things. Such a smug, self-righteous c**t

[Budweiser]

after the 1,000th post im sure this thread will begin to loose interest for me....if my will to live does not cave in first

[eFestivals]

I've never set out to insult anyone, just express an opinion on these boards.

Opinions ain't allowed if they're opinions that Bruce ain't so great.

That's what many Bruce fans clearly think anyhow - this thread shows that as very true. It also shows those Bruce fans as being the "smug, self-righteous c**ts" that they want to imagine others as being.

[GlastoRulz]

Bruce is back in the USA and so am I unfortunately.

Ended up going to the show last night at the last minute. It was hot as hell, the setlist had almost no flow to it whatsoever, and it was the most fantastic show I have ever seen. What rock and roll is all about. The man is amazing and anybody that thinks otherwise is nuts!

I must admit that being in an all Bruce crowd is a LOT more fun. If my grandmother gets better I am going to have to head to a few more shows!

[eFestivals]

I must admit that being in an all Bruce crowd is a LOT more fun.

My take on this - not specific to just Bruce but for all acts (and is the reason why I love festivals) - is that the most fun of all is from a crowd that isn't purely made up of an act's fans, but where the act is able to win over those non-partisan fans. It takes the atmosphere waaaaay beyond what is generated by just an act's existing fans.

This is what Bruce failed to do at Glasto, but which plenty of other acts of all kinds have succeeded in doing over the years.

[grumpyhack]

My take on this - not specific to just Bruce but for all acts (and is the reason why I love festivals) - is that the most fun of all is from a crowd that isn't purely made up of an act's fans, but where the act is able to win over those non-partisan fans. It takes the atmosphere waaaaay beyond what is generated by just an act's existing fans.

This is what Bruce failed to do at Glasto, but which plenty of other acts of all kinds have succeeded in doing over the years.

[eFestivals]

I don't want to get into an argument with the boss about The Boss but I'm not sure what evidence you have to support your assertion that Bruce failed to win over the audience. I know quite a few diehard Bruce fans who were a bit disappointed with his set but they were more than outweighed by people I met who didn't really know him and who were knocked out by his energy and the performance.

Evidence? The numbers streaming away while he played (that I witnessed myself, and that many others have spoken of); also that none of the non-Bruce fans I asked about Bruce felt that he'd done it for them. These things I've already said, and this thread has many comments confirming that these things happened in significant numbers.

That doesn't mean that he might not have impressed some of the non-partisans, only that he didn't win them over in the numbers which other acts have managed.

[eFestivals]

I like both... being in an audience that knows the act, and being in a festival audience that is won over by an act. That doesn't often happen with headliners (in my experience)... they're on a hiding to nothing usually; too much expectation, too much cynicism, etc.

I guess that's true, but there was an awful lot of extra expectation with Bruce because of his highly-rated live reputation; he didn't (in both my mind and plenty of Bruce fans opinions posted here) do anything to show he deserved that reputation.

I know people think JayZ succeeded, but then he had the opposite expectations. And as much as I stayed for most of the set, there waqsn't anything particularly surprising (good or bad) in what he did.

Bruce won some people over, so I'm not sure why he failed

I think the Jay-Z thing was different too - but more different than just the opposite expectations you mention (tho I'd disagree if you're suggesting that people went in large numbers to see him to see him fail - I'd say they went to see what the fuss was about, much as many did with Bruce this year [tho a different 'fuss']).

While there's undoubtedly large numbers who didn't think Jay-Z was all that as a live act (me included), I think you'd be hard pushed to find anywhere near as many who thought they'd wasted their time going to see him - for his entrance alone it was very much worth being there.

[Pauljoanss]

Have not been following any of this thread but just add one more view.

Would not call myself a BS fan, only really know his hits and enjoyed them. But dispite not knowing many of the songs from his set, I really enjoyed the whole mood of the thing. I watched a bit of YouTube stuff before so was a little disapointed the crowd did not know a lot of the songs which usually get a big sing along from fans. It left me thinking would love to go to a concert full of fans to get the full experience and went to checkout his other European dates but could not make any.

Despite not knowing many of the songs there were several that I thought were great on the very first listen, that does not often happen, eg Outlaw Pete, it kept building and building with some lovely melodic guitar bits in the middle. He did everything he possibly could and it is not surprising that some may be disappointed after the big build up before eg "greatest show on earth". How do you follow that.

On a seperate topic, after the BS "show" I wondered how Blur could possible compare the next night, a "liitle British 4 piece". Well the atmosphere was entirely different with the whole audience totally behind them and they really triumphed. Again I am not a big Blur fan but the atmosphere made for a great show.

Audience fot BS - lets see what you can do.

Audience for Blur - we love you/grew up with you/know all your songs.

[eFestivals]

Despite not knowing many of the songs there were several that I thought were great on the very first listen, that does not often happen, eg Outlaw Pete,

Oh dear.

Can I make a guess that you're a Kiss fan? Or perhaps you've not heard the Kiss original?

Outside of anything I might think of Bruce, that song has got to be one of the most torturous and gawd awful songs I have heard in my 44 years.