Taking H&S, uniforms and rules a little too fair

[oafc0000]

the people at the school maybe, but not THE school

[oafc0000]

.. that's what the new head said...

after he'd taken the school, totally disregarded it's past, and did what the f**k he wanted to

[oafc0000]

I don't even know what loyalty is with regards to something like a school..

and pride..?

[Alexx (:]

How many of your GCSEs were A* though? What you're basically saying is that a school with no discipline manages to churn out kids with average results.

[oafc0000]

Got 1 A*, 2 A's, 9 B's and a C.

Diploma was straight distinctions (equivalent to 4 A's).

What I'm trying to say is I think the enthusiasm, dedication and effort made by both the teachers and pupils has more of an effect on grades than their haircuts or type of trousers.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I don't even know what loyalty is with regards to something like a school..

and pride..?

[oafc0000]

I sort of agree with you..

but this school had some kind of history, nothing amazing, just a history like any place might have. One thing that set it slightly apart was a slightly out of synch (with most schools) ethos. Many parents and kids liked it because of this. Then it gets a new head, who totally disregards it's history and what it really is..

some teachers left.. some really really good ones who didn't like what the head was aiming for.

so what is the 'school' now?

it's a different place

[oafc0000]

well, I've said before, I have a slight problem with the concept of pride

I am what I am... my school had little to do with it

Edited October 7, 2009 by oafc0000

[Rufus Gwertigan]

well, bless you

night

[Alexx (:]

Is grades all it is about though ? Is grade all you took for school ?

I learnt so much from my teachers and fellow pupils on so much stuff... I see the uniform as a very small part in that...

[oafc0000]

No, I am not off to bed. Just avoiding deep threads for me at the moment. I have manic depression mate, and I am low at the moment, and it is hard to think a point out

Edited October 7, 2009 by oafc0000

[oafc0000]

I went to school to learn, I'm not saying I didn't learn any facts about life whilst I was there, but primarily I went to get the grades. My teacher's didn't really teach me much about life/general stuff, maybe they tried and I didn't listen, or maybe they didn't bother.

Either way, I got to where I needed to be, I understand respect and discipline, and learnt how to pop dislocated fingers and knuckles back into place. I was the one people came to injured after a fight, now I'm training to be a nurse. Could be related? Who knows.

Edited October 7, 2009 by oafc0000

[oafc0000]

I was a parent governor for a few years, at our daughters junior school. A lovely place. All the kids knew the head by his first name, his door was always open... I'd often hang around his office in the morning, chatting, and it was such a joy to see the kids popping their head round the corner, and say "good morning Roger"

Tht was nearly twenty years ago.. .the changes that were already starting to happen were filling him (Roger) with dread. Eventually, he spent more time with the paperwork until he gave up and left. He loved the kids, but the system ground him down.

My experince as a governor was fun and rewarding, but I had to stop in the end as I started working shifts and couldn't make most of the meetings...

the meetings were very important. In fact that's mainly what it was about, going to meetings

[bunique]

I always planned on getting actively involved with my child's school and planned on becoming a school governor. These discussions make me want to even more. I also want to get activily invovled with the people teaching my children and their friends.

As anyone done it ? My mum did and thought it was great. Gives you a strong and clear voice as well!

[oafc0000]

I've yet to see a school have much to do with their governors on a day to day basis. I've applied to be one and am intrigued to see how it works in the schools round here.

Edited October 7, 2009 by oafc0000

[bunique]

Your set to see it because as you state you have not experienced it... My mother said she used to attend meetings on a weekly / two weekly basis... At the meetings school polices would be discussed, I think also appeals against expulsions and such would be discussed... After that fund raising and what could be done to improve the school would be discussed as in how could the governors contribute more would be discussed, my mum used to run a cookery session for example. I think these days the government seems to see teaching "assistants" as filling this gap...I think parents/governors should still play a role...

I would totally agree that ages 0-4 are very important... Probably crucial... I watched the conservative conference today where an expert claimed you can notice massive failing just two years into a child's life (went as far to say you can notice criminal behaviour)

Do you really think the fight ends their though ? Because I don't...

[oafc0000]

Children's brains develop faster and they learn more between 0 and 3 than at any other time in their life. It's the foundation.

Edited October 7, 2009 by oafc0000

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I was a parent governor for a few years, at our daughters junior school. A lovely place. All the kids knew the head by his first name, his door was always open... I'd often hang around his office in the morning, chatting, and it was such a joy to see the kids popping their head round the corner, and say "good morning Roger"

Tht was nearly twenty years ago.. .the changes that were already starting to happen were filling him (Roger) with dread. Eventually, he spent more time with the paperwork until he gave up and left. He loved the kids, but the system ground him down.

My experince as a governor was fun and rewarding, but I had to stop in the end as I started working shifts and couldn't make most of the meetings...

the meetings were very important. In fact that's mainly what it was about, going to meetings

[Katster]

I drilled a hole in my school tie during a woodwork session. Everyone else was sensible and took their ties off to do it. I kept mine on and almost ended up hanging myself.

I wasn't allowed out of school at lunch time and to be honest I think that was a good thing. It didn't stop me running off into the woods with a jar of magnesium strips stolen from the science lab and setting them alight though.

I used to roll my skirt up shorter than it should have been.

I used to do my tie the wrong way round so I had the thin end showing.

Kids will be kids, and schools will be schools, rules will be rules, and rules will be broken.

[Katster]

give 'em less pointless rules to break... no?

why did you drill a hole in your tie?

belated tanti auguri btw

[oafc0000]

Because I was 15 and I thought it was funny. I saw a lad do it and I copied him, not realising he'd taken his tie off and was holding it taught either side. I did mine whilst still round my neck and it all got tangled up around the drill, luckily to the point of stopping it spinning (I'm talking a big bastard drill which you pull down to use).

Grazie mile

[sifi]

belated tanti auguri btw

Edited October 9, 2009 by sifimaster

[feral chile]

Got 1 A*, 2 A's, 9 B's and a C.

Diploma was straight distinctions (equivalent to 4 A's).

What I'm trying to say is I think the enthusiasm, dedication and effort made by both the teachers and pupils has more of an effect on grades than their haircuts or type of trousers.

[feral chile]

I don't even know what loyalty is with regards to something like a school..

and pride..?

[feral chile]

Doesn't matter, if you give them loads, they'll still break them. Give them more freedom and they'll take it to extreme. They are kids. I agree some of those rules are pretty barmy though.

Because I was 15 and I thought it was funny. I saw a lad do it and I copied him, not realising he'd taken his tie off and was holding it taught either side. I did mine whilst still round my neck and it all got tangled up around the drill, luckily to the point of stopping it spinning (I'm talking a big bastard drill which you pull down to use).

Grazie mile