F1 2010

[harper11]

Webber!

[OneLittleFish]

Red Bull really are making a hash of this years championship, they should have been leading both by a country mile by this point.

Thought Alonso's penalty was fair, McLaren looked surprisingly strong in the race and good to see Williams improving.

Could see this being a Hamilton/Webber title race this year, think Lewis will be stronger in the second half of this season.

[OneLittleFish]

It turns out that Charlie Whiting ordered Ferrari to let Kubica through on three seperate occasions before the penalty - link

Can't be any arguments now that the drive-through was very much fair.

[thegremlin_1999]

What do we reckon to today's events then? Blatant disregard for the rules by Ferrari. And this coming from the team accusing people of manipulating results the other week.

Under investigation but can't see much happening. Makes a mockery of the whole sport tbh.

[oafc0000]

What do we reckon to today's events then? Blatant disregard for the rules by Ferrari. And this coming from the team accusing people of manipulating results the other week.

Under investigation but can't see much happening. Makes a mockery of the whole sport tbh.

[thegremlin_1999]

It was disgraceful and they should be DSQ but I doubt they will... What respect I had for Alonso has gone... He isn't as good as I thought he was on track and he has a terrible attitude...

[The Nal]

Makes a mockery of the sport. A dark day. Ferrari breaking the rules you say?

[OneLittleFish]

Alonso's not good enough to win a world championship without team orders, simple as that. He's a good politician, but not much more than that. He could have made the incident a lot less obvious himself by not gesticulating at Massa after he couldn't get past at the hairpin.

Such a shame for Felipe, really deserved a victory today.

Edited July 25, 2010 by OneLittleFish

[sifi]

Be interesting to hear what one of our resident Ferrari fans think of it. Sifi? Care to comment?

Edited July 25, 2010 by sifimaster

[Kowalski]

You'd think Ferrari would have put all this nonsense behind them when Schumacher and Brawn left, but obviously not.

Not impressed that they've been fined, I would have disqualified them.

Same old Ferrari.

[sifi]

You'd think Ferrari would have put all this nonsense behind them when Schumacher and Brawn left, but obviously not.

Not impressed that they've been fined, I would have disqualified them.

Same old Ferrari.

[OneLittleFish]

Fantastic tribute to Ayrton Senna at the end of Top Gear today. Featured a lot of current and former F1 drivers, and Lewis Hamilton driving Ayrton's McLaren from his first world championship, clearly meant the absolute world to him.

Found that Top Gear's perhaps lost its magic as of late, but was as good a tribute as could be fitted into five or ten minutes.

[Alcatraz]

I think Jake Humphrey hit the nail on the head during the interview when Steffano Dimcheles was defending the decision that it was in the teams interest and that Sebastian would have caught the two up, to which Jake said "In which case, haven't you denied the fans that have come here and those at home the prospect of proper racing"

I don't blame Alonso, and my estimation of him hasn't been damaged. But that of Ferrari management certainly has.

Edited July 25, 2010 by Alcatraz

[sifi]

I think Jake Humphrey hit the nail on the head during the interview when Steffano Dimcheles was defending the decision that it was in the teams interest and that Sebastian would have caught the two up, to which Jake said "In which case, haven't you denied the fans that have come here and those at home the prospect of proper racing"

I don't blame Alonso, and my estimation of him hasn't been damaged. But that of Ferrari management certainly has.

[oafc0000]

When Nando couldn't get by Massa, he's straight on the radio to the team moaning about it, putting on the pressure that way. That sums the man up for me. Just wrong. The only time tgat such a swap should happen is when it comes of the individual driver's decision, as with Massa when Kimi won the title.

[Alcatraz]

When Nando couldn't get by Massa, he's straight on the radio to the team moaning about it, putting on the pressure that way. That sums the man up for me. Just wrong. The only time tgat such a swap should happen is when it comes of the individual driver's decision, as with Massa when Kimi won the title.

[Kowalski]

Is there evidence that Alonso asked for Massa to move over?

I blame Ferrari management. Same thing happened when Schumacher drove for them.

Edited July 26, 2010 by Kowalski

[sifi]

After he tried to overtake Massa and had failed, he was on the radio naming that it was ridiculous. I interpret that as Alonso wanting the team to give the order.

[The Nal]

After he tried to overtake Massa and had failed, he was on the radio naming that it was ridiculous. I interpret that as Alonso wanting the team to give the order.

[sifi]

I don't think so. Each radio is a two way between the race engineer and the driver?

[oafc0000]

I don't think so. Each radio is a two way between the race engineer and the driver?

[Alcatraz]

Yup, no driver to driver chat... Would be top though Imagine them having full on arguments

[The Nal]

Yup, no driver to driver chat... Would be top though Imagine them having full on arguments

[Nedson]

takes me back to 2008 in Brazil when Glock slowed right down to allow Hamilton to pass and take the title. OK different teams but still cheating

Edit to add.. On the last bloody corner as well!!

Edited July 26, 2010 by Nedson

[oafc0000]

takes me back to 2008 in Brazil when Glock slowed right down to allow Hamilton to pass and take the title. OK different teams but still cheating

Edit to add.. On the last bloody corner as well!!

Edited July 26, 2010 by oafc0000