Virus?

[JimOfTheJungle]

There wouldn't be if we nuked them though. After the first brilliant flash of light, their blood would boil in a 100th of a second before they disintegrate into dust. Peoples eyes will pop out of their heads, their skin will shrivel and fall off, exposing the flesh like a skinned rabbit, seconds before it too is turned into smoke from the heat. The mushroom clouds would be visable from the space station. People who werent at the centre of the blasts would leave their severed limbs and charred corpses scattered throughout the land, like a splattering of white paint on a dark protective sheet.

The noise and vibration alone would kill thousands with heart defects and as the huge mushrooms clouds spread out, temperatures would fall dramatically, killing wildlife and plants. The land would be destroyed, all animals would be killed and the nuclear rain would sizzle and boil away skin and flesh, like pouring hot water through an ice block. Epidemics would develop among survivors, particularly food poisoning, dysentery and typhoid, and the survivors would be killed within 30 days from radiation poisoning.

Then we send in the planes. Any survivors from this point on would be so weak and defenseless, we could treat it like a duck hunt. We could even charge tourists to man the guns on the planes, help pay for the war effort. As we fly at 50 feet, shouting profanity and abuse at the naked survivors, cackling like witches as they hobble around looking for cover, each bullet that hits them could potentially make them explode, like the guy who falls into the acid at the end of Robocop. Then we land, roll in the tanks and give the last remaining people a choice, two bullets in the groin or the opportunity to dive head first, with hands in pockets, a "pencil dive", into one of the many lakes that have now reached 100c degrees in temperature, and throw small but sharp rocks at them as they thrash away in the water like a shark attack victim when they boil themselves alive in the lakes.

[strudders]

There wouldn't be if we nuked them though. After the first brilliant flash of light, their blood would boil in a 100th of a second before they disintegrate into dust.

Edited May 5, 2010 by strudders

[st00ka]

Like i say, its my opinion youve made the issue a bigger one!

[ThomThomDrum]

Can I raise a practical question at this point?

... are we gonna do Stonehenge tomorrow?

[scaryclaireyfairy]

i can't believe this is still ongoing. glastonbury is next month and there's a whole bitchfest rumbling away about something that noone intended to happen. it's shit if your computer got infected with this bug but there's good info on how to remove it. neil didn't write or plant the virus. he's done what he needed to do to prevent it going further. what in the name of eavis is the continual discussion going to achieve? eff all!

it's crap it happened, crap things happen, build a bridge and get over it.

we really need a sponsored positive day again.

please close this damn thread.

[Billy09]

There wouldn't be if we nuked them though. After the first brilliant flash of light, their blood would boil in a 100th of a second before they disintegrate into dust. Peoples eyes will pop out of their heads, their skin will shrivel and fall off, exposing the flesh like a skinned rabbit, seconds before it too is turned into smoke from the heat. The mushroom clouds would be visable from the space station. People who werent at the centre of the blasts would leave their severed limbs and charred corpses scattered throughout the land, like a splattering of white paint on a dark protective sheet.

The noise and vibration alone would kill thousands with heart defects and as the huge mushrooms clouds spread out, temperatures would fall dramatically, killing wildlife and plants. The land would be destroyed, all animals would be killed and the nuclear rain would sizzle and boil away skin and flesh, like pouring hot water through an ice block. Epidemics would develop among survivors, particularly food poisoning, dysentery and typhoid, and the survivors would be killed within 30 days from radiation poisoning.

Then we send in the planes. Any survivors from this point on would be so weak and defenseless, we could treat it like a duck hunt. We could even charge tourists to man the guns on the planes, help pay for the war effort. As we fly at 50 feet, shouting profanity and abuse at the naked survivors, cackling like witches as they hobble around looking for cover, each bullet that hits them could potentially make them explode, like the guy who falls into the acid at the end of Robocop. Then we land, roll in the tanks and give the last remaining people a choice, two bullets in the groin or the opportunity to dive head first, with hands in pockets, a "pencil dive", into one of the many lakes that have now reached 100c degrees in temperature, and throw small but sharp rocks at them as they thrash away in the water like a shark attack victim when they boil themselves alive in the lakes.

[The Nal]

This reads disturbingly like a fantasy

[eFestivals]

My opinon too. A quick "ah shit I've got a virus, sorry if it's giving you some shit too, here's some advice on how to get rid of it" would have stopped any moaning before it started.

1. how can I give advice on how to fix it if I've not *FULLY* investigated the fixes to know they're fixes? You might be keen for me to put an even bigger target on my head; I'm pleased I'm not as stupid as you.

2. And doing so would have meant another day of not fixing the problem, and many infections because of it.

My time was spent dealing with things correctly. If you want fluff and idiocy, there's plenty of other places you can find it.

This site will continue to tell it as we see it.

[DeadAmos]

why not organize a boxing match at glastonbury between Neil and anyone who got the virus so they can all vent their spleen in public

should make for a fun afternoon

Edited May 5, 2010 by DeadAmos

[ThomThomDrum]

1. how can I give advice on how to fix it if I've not *FULLY* investigated the fixes to know they're fixes? You might be keen for me to put an even bigger target on my head; I'm pleased I'm not as stupid as you.

2. And doing so would have meant another day of not fixing the problem, and many infections because of it.

My time was spent dealing with things correctly. If you want fluff and idiocy, there's plenty of other places you can find it.

This site will continue to tell it as we see it.

[sammysundae]

I'm pleased I'm not as stupid as you.

[neilos]

I also think this thread is dead...its boring now. My laptop crashed and I cant even turn it on as it comes up with a blue screen and wont allow me to do anything, trip to the doctors seems inevitable as I am the most un tech guy in the world!!

But saying that, nothing here has been constructive through all the ramblings at Neil but I would also like to point out that you haven't really justified people not having a go, there was not a single apology in all your posts Neil.

If I mess up at work, I openly admit it and apologise in the first instance, you get more respect if you apologise even if it is not completely your fault. Just an acknowledgement that there were failings and that would suffice and would have saved 27 pages of this thread.

It is in the main my fault as I do not (as far as I am aware) have any protection on my laptop and so I am happy that I need to take the actions to rectify it but I am not happy with your stance that no blame at all should be placed on yourself.

This is such a good site for all fountain of knowledge festival related and I cannot fault your efforts to this regard so thank you for that. However, it should come with a bit more of a 'client' perspective in that any issues that arise should be dealt with in a more professional and service orientated manner.

So if anyone has had the same issue as me and knows how to rectify this, please please help as I wouldn't have the first clue as to how to get it resolved. I cannot even get onto my desktop, it wont let me load my laptop through safe mode and just continues through to a blue screen advising that my hard disk is infected.

Ta very muchly.

[sammysundae]

^^^

Here here! exactly what i was trying to say, but infinitely better expressed

[eFestivals]

you're website was not secure enough

utter crap. I'm in possession of the full facts, while you are not.

Yet that statement holds true for any individual's computer, while not holding true for any website that by very definition needs to allow open access.

you generate income from this website

if you call earning around half minimum wage 'income' then yes, that's true.

its not really fair to take the "i provide an excellent service" argument

It's not an argument I've offered, in this thread or anywhere else.

at the end of the day you've basically messed up

utter crap. I'm in possession of the full facts, while you are not.

Yet that statement holds true for any individual's computer, while not holding true for any website that by very definition needs to allow open access.

making statements like the one above and several others is spiteful and unprofessional.

Yet you seem to think such things are permissible from others, including yourself. No wonder this country is so f**ked.

it makes me feel less inclined to use the site.

Feel free. I'm past caring.

In fact, I encourage you to. f**k off, please.

i'm not having a go

Yeah, and I'm god.

[mikeb]

.... And if Adobe Acrobat reader wasn't so pervasively the dominant PDF reader software of the age.

Edited May 5, 2010 by mikeb

[eFestivals]

there was not a single apology in all your posts Neil.

why do you think there should be?

Are you offering me an apology for your system having been atttacked? So why do you think it should work the other way, when the situation is no different?

If I mess up at work, I openly admit it and apologise in the first instance,

and so do I. I have not messed up one iota, and your different presumption only gets to show you as wanting someone to blame despite you not having the first idea if their blameworthy or not.

Just an acknowledgement that there were failings

why do you think that a false statement - a lie - is the way to go?

I'm not going to serve up bullshit to you or anyone else, no matter how much it might flatter your mis-placed sensitivities.

but I am not happy with your stance that no blame at all should be placed on yourself.

please do enlighten me why blame is mine for being a victim of a hack attack no different to you?

However, it should come with a bit more of a 'client' perspective

The client perspective is always here - that I don't treat them as morons by serving up the sort of wrong bollocks you're suggesting and pretend it's meaningful and true.

If you want that then just about every other site on the net will tell you the customer that you're always right when you're stupidly wrong.

eFestivals has not ever worked on that basis and never will do.

[worthyraver]

For gods sake people let it go, never thought I would find myself saying this but:

STOP HAVING A GO AT NEIL

It does not matter how many people tell him the same thing, he is not suddenly going to post, "oh yeah, good point thanks for putting me right on that one" so stop continuing to make the same point.

Neil: stop posting on this thread for a few hours get it off the front page and we can all move on.

[neilos]

if you call earning around half minimum wage 'income' then yes, that's true.

[st00ka]

1. how can I give advice on how to fix it if I've not *FULLY* investigated the fixes to know they're fixes? You might be keen for me to put an even bigger target on my head; I'm pleased I'm not as stupid as you.

2. And doing so would have meant another day of not fixing the problem, and many infections because of it.

My time was spent dealing with things correctly. If you want fluff and idiocy, there's plenty of other places you can find it.

This site will continue to tell it as we see it.

Edited May 5, 2010 by st00ka

[JimOfTheJungle]

The client perspective is always here - that I don't treat them as morons by serving up the sort of wrong bollocks you're suggesting and pretend it's meaningful and true.

If you want that then just about every other site on the net will tell you the customer that you're always right when you're stupidly wrong.

eFestivals has not ever worked on that basis and never will do.

[LondonTom]

Neil could go into the general election more hated than Gordon Brown

Its simple Neil tells it how it is, has said numurous times if you don't like to take yourselves else where, you have nothing to lose by going. (Well a fountain of knowledge on festivals and a smattering of other topics.). He could have dealt with the PR side of this outbreak better, but hey he didn't your not going to get an apology are you? It serves no one to keep arguing over absolutely nothing now.

[neilos]

So from my post you just decided to disect all of the negative points but did not acknowledge the fact that I held a great regard for your site and the effort you put in....!!

JESUS - there were two ways of responding -

1) Respond to the negatives as you did BUT also acknowledge those bits where I praised you and efestivals

2) Ignore my post

Oh sorry,

3) Answer it Neils way.

Just to re-iterate incase the red mist somehow caused you to miss the praise for the site:

It is in the main my fault as I do not (as far as I am aware) have any protection on my laptop and so I am happy that I need to take the actions to rectify it....

[JimOfTheJungle]

Neil could go into the general election more hated than Gordon Brown

[eFestivals]

The one thing you can't ever deny is that the scumbags responsible for spam/viruses/malware/etc are, in general, exceedingly bl**dy good at what they do unfortunately.

from one angle yes, from most angles no.

The actual virus writers are just that.

But very few attacks are by those people - the huge majority are what is known as "script kiddies". They find a script that can exploit a known flaw, and then use that program against any targets - mostly random (thru googling I'd guess) - they can find.

It takes no more skill than it takes any first time user to start Word on their windows PC.

This site has been hacked three times in ten years. All three of those hacks (two within around the last year or so, one of which is the most recent) exploited unknown (at the time) flaws in software.

The other attack was perhaps 5 years ago. It used a flaw in a particular unneeded file (unneeded for what is used by efests), so I've been able to keep using that software ever since, but ensure that the flawed file isn't on the system (that flawed file might be fixed since, I don't know - but as I don't need it I don't take the chance).

On average (cos I see it in the stats), people try to attack efests around 15 times a day using that flawed file that hasn't existed here for around 5 years. That gives an idea of just how common attempted attacks are.

[eFestivals]

SDid you miss these parts?

No. I'm not looking for praise. I'm addressing what this thread is about, and those were no part of it.