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that sums up every england team in the last ten years.

which is exactly my point.

It's just about the same team as it's been for the last ten years too, playing in the same (as a team) poor way. The manager is different, granted, but he's getting very little that's different out of the players.

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The only think that I believe is that we don't have a hope of winning. The players have the individual skills (well, just the first 11 - it's well flaky after that), but what they don't have is a team ethic.
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The only think that I believe is that we don't have a hope of winning. The players have the individual skills (well, just the first 11 - it's well flaky after that), but what they don't have is a team ethic.
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:lol::lol:

North Korea's cunning plan to use their third goalkeeper spot for an extra striker has backfired badly.

Fifa have told them Kim Myong-Won, who usually plays as a centre-forward, will only be able to play as a goalkeeper in the World Cup.

Coach Kim-Jong Hun only named two regular goalkeepers in his squad, opting to choose Kim Myong-Won as a back-up keeper.

But in a statement, Fifa said: "The three players listed as goalkeepers can only play as goalkeepers during the Fifa World Cup and cannot play outfield. This will be communicated to the teams in the team arrival meetings and will be enforced on match days."

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if the other 12 are flaky (which includes milner), what the hell does that make precious theo? ;)

I was being a little more general than specifically meaning just the first 11.

But anyway, yep, I'd include Walcott in that flaky. The difference is, that when he's not, he has more than just about every other player when they're on their not-flaky days. What the others might pull out of the bag on a good day still isn't going to be enough.

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yeah, but theres still time for Don Fabio, one of the most decorated and respected managers in world football to bind them together.

Yeah, Scolari did the same at Chelsea, just like TGT said he would. :lol::lol:

this is the 1st time theyve been together for an extended period of time. time to build the relationships and bonds that can make a difference

The players have been there and done that many times, even if it's not been with Pat. Pat might 'bond' with the players, but once they get on the pitch the players revert to (non) form.

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The players have been there and done that many times, even if it's not been with Pat. Pat might 'bond' with the players, but once they get on the pitch the players revert to (non) form.
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Yeah, Scolari did the same at Chelsea, just like TGT said he would. :lol::lol:

The players have been there and done that many times, even if it's not been with Pat. Pat might 'bond' with the players, but once they get on the pitch the players revert to (non) form.

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all possibilities i will grant you that

but that leaves open the possibility that this time, more than any other time, this time, don fabios going to find a way ,find a way to get away, this time, getting it all together, he'll get it right

'we still believe........'

well, I guess if you take the scattergun random approach that says things will get lucky one time in a million, then you'll probably be right on one of those million occasions. :P

Thing is, it still ain't gonna be this time.

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Rightio then folks - what do we think?

LW's predictions:

Winners: Spain

Runners up: Brazil

England: Semi Finalists

Dark Horses: Serbia, South Africa, Paraguay

Golden Boot Winner: David Villa

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ampersadji's predictions:

Winners: Netherlands

Runners up: Spain

England: Last 16 (Germany)

Dark Horses: Serbia, Algeria, Ivory Coast

Golden Boot Winner: Robin van Persie

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since when were argentina a dark horse???

sure, they're not really expected to win it, but with the players they've got, they're in with the big guns.

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