pink_triangle Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 First this is not a criticism of the band, I think rated R is a great album. I think they are decent (but not spectacualr) live. However taking away personal opinion, do people think 2nd headliners is a bit high for them. Bands in this slot generally do arena, Im sure qotsa havent done an arena tour. Are they really bigger than the likes of lost prophets and biffy clyro. Again not criticising the band or their fans but they just seem a lot smaller than others occupying the same slot. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 QOTSA are massive, they have some massive radio hits and are all over the music channels. Most peoiple will have heard at least one QOTSA song and over the years they've played all over the place and gradually climbed to the position they're at now. the fact they're one of the best live acts around certainly cements the fact they deserve there slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 QOTSA are massive, they have some massive radio hits and are all over the music channels. Most peoiple will have heard at least one QOTSA song and over the years they've played all over the place and gradually climbed to the position they're at now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinthecasbah Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 I don't think bands being 2nd on the bill necessarily have to have played arena's. They'll sell out an academy tour very quickly, and as has been mentioned almost everyone will know a few Queens of the Stone Age songs. Definitely big enough to play second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecretingredientiscrime Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 You say Lostprophets have played arenas, look at what happened. They played arenas, quite rightly saw that I was getting a bigger crowd in my shed and dropped back down to academies that they could fill. They wern't and aren't big enough for arenas, where as I could see QOTSA selling out arenas in America and at least Alexandra Palace here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 You say Lostprophets have played arenas, look at what happened. They played arenas, quite rightly saw that I was getting a bigger crowd in my shed and dropped back down to academies that they could fill. They wern't and aren't big enough for arenas, where as I could see QOTSA selling out arenas in America and at least Alexandra Palace here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow_Fellow Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Lostprophets still play academies. QOTSA are a much, much bigger band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Lostprophets still play academies. QOTSA are a much, much bigger band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electricityscape Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 They're great live. Apart from Libertines they're the band i'm most excited about seeing. Can't deny they're good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1664 Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 I would say that qotsa and lost prophets would sell out similar size venues in the uk. What they would sell out in america is irrelevant as very few americans buy tickets for the festival. I just dont see the difference in qotsa and lost prophets to be 2 slots different on the bill. i would say the difference in popularity between libertines and cribs, and paramore and cypress hill is far greater. Also are queens of the stone age that massive in america? I have never got the impression that they are one of the huge acts over there but could be completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Since when have the libertines sold out arenas? Or for that matter been a massive band? Libs and QOTSA have similar cult followings. Both are really popular with the r&l crowd. Ur point about being no difference between QOTSA biffy and lp just highlights how good that day is at r&l and how big a draw the festivals are to bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieuphoria Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 QOTSA will one day headline.... LP won't. That's the difference right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 QOTSA will one day headline.... LP won't. That's the difference right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomisnothere Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 You say Lostprophets have played arenas, look at what happened. They played arenas, quite rightly saw that I was getting a bigger crowd in my shed and dropped back down to academies that they could fill. They wern't and aren't big enough for arenas, where as I could see QOTSA selling out arenas in America and at least Alexandra Palace here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckysalt Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 I wish QOTSA would do an arena tour, I think they would sell it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecretingredientiscrime Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Not true at all. I went to one of the arena gigs on the Liberation Transmission tour and it was packed. Might have been sold out even. The reason they're doing academies now is probably because their latest album hasn't had anywhere near the same impact as the previous one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 What difference des worldwide fame make? The darkness, razorlight, travis, pulp and stereophonics didnt headline because of worldwide fame. Kaiser chiefs and bloc party werent second on the bill last year because they are big in america. I take your point about the difference between half selling an arena or selling out academies but I suspect that lost prophets and qotsa can sell out similar size venues in the uk which makes the 2 place different surprising. Going by the way festival republic usualy book, it just seems strange to me how they place the likes of placebo and qotsa in the same slot as far more succesful acts, not neccesarily a bad thing, just an observation. My assumption is that the booker likes the bands so promotes them in favours of others of similar sizes. As I said if i was in charge i would push my favourites up as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecretingredientiscrime Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 What difference des worldwide fame make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink_triangle Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 I really doubt QOTSA would be as high as they are, basing everything on Britain alone. The reason they could sell out arenas here and whatever is because of how they've built on their American success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLumberjack Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 What difference des worldwide fame make? The darkness, razorlight, travis, pulp and stereophonics didnt headline because of worldwide fame. Kaiser chiefs and bloc party werent second on the bill last year because they are big in america. I take your point about the difference between half selling an arena or selling out academies but I suspect that lost prophets and qotsa can sell out similar size venues in the uk which makes the 2 place different surprising. Going by the way festival republic usualy book, it just seems strange to me how they place the likes of placebo and qotsa in the same slot as far more succesful acts, not neccesarily a bad thing, just an observation. My assumption is that the booker likes the bands so promotes them in favours of others of similar sizes. As I said if i was in charge i would push my favourites up as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesecretingredientiscrime Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 They couldnt sell out arenas here, if they could they would have a sold out arena tour under there belt. I cant remember them every playing an arena never mind selling one out. The thought that a band could sell out arenas but choose not is a little hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 This arguement is pointless, QOTSA are big enough for 2nd top and will easily prove that next month. You also have to take into account that QOTSA fit in well with Guns n Roses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottt Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I think there's also the fact that most people are bored of Lostprophets by now. Much like why we have the headlienrs we have. People aregue they're not big enough, but they've not played gigs here in such a long time that demand is so high. Losprophets have spent the last 2 years touring a pretty tragic album, and even played R/L last year. Everyone who wants to see them has seen them this year. Hardcore QOTSA fans have been waiting atleast 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I think there's also the fact that most people are bored of Lostprophets by now. Much like why we have the headlienrs we have. People aregue they're not big enough, but they've not played gigs here in such a long time that demand is so high. Losprophets have spent the last 2 years touring a pretty tragic album, and even played R/L last year. Everyone who wants to see them has seen them this year. Hardcore QOTSA fans have been waiting atleast 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen07 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Hardcore QOTSA fans have been waiting atleast 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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