housing issue

[lifelessfool]

I have recently started renting my very first house although I am currently residing in my mum and dads house while I work over summer, however I went to stay in my student house the other week. I took my fairly expensive speakers as the house is bare and I didnt want to get bored, I couldn't be bothered to take them back home when I returned on Monday. Anyway fast forward a week and I told my other housemate he could use them when he arrives, however he rang me to tell me he couldnt see them and rang the land lady to enquire as she had been in to collect keys, and it turns out she had thrown them away!!!I wasnt that bothered at first but then it dawned on me I dont have a spare 70 pound to replace them. I don't really like confrontations and that and I dont want to cause a fuss with the landlady this early, but is she legally required to replace them as I was contracted to move in to the house from the first of July??

[dakyras]

If you were currently in the tenancy, then she has no right to through them away.

[gratedenini]

Are you saying --you`ve signed a tenancy--- and then just pottered about in there with your spoeakers etc... went back to mums for a bit... went back to flat--and find out your stuff has been binned?

If i`m reading that correctly--- she is bang out of order. Morally--she might have thought you actually hadnt moved in yet even though you`d signed the tenancy--and tossed em out (if she has in fact tossed em out and not given em to her son).

Its a hard one for you cos as you say--you are immedoately firing bulets which could in the mid-long term backfire on you (knowing the usual antics of students in rented property).

OTOH--- its your stuff and she had no right to bin it. Get yer mam/dad involved, thats my opinion.

den

[Nedson]

twat the bitch

[oafc0000]

If you were currently in the tenancy, then she has no right to through them away.

[Rufus Gwertigan]

Make a bit of a noise and then if she does nothing about it towards the end of your tenancy withold a part of your rent.

[Ed209]

Get the bitch to pay. She has effectively stolen your property and binned it. Ask nicely for her to replace them. If she doesn't, then tell her you're going to have to go to the police ... that should hurry things along

Edited July 16, 2010 by Ed209

[Rufus Gwertigan]

But that could risk the deposit if you don't pay the final rent.

[dakyras]

But that could risk the deposit if you don't pay the final rent.

My understanding was that landlords weren't allowed to enter the property unless you were there and had 48 hours notice, so she has broken that at least aswell as stealing you stuff so got onto and ask her for the money to replace it and if she doens't sprout buzz word like citizen advice berau and breach of tennacy agreement till she gives in, or threaten her pets either way.

[Josie's Cat]

Why would a landlady throw speakers away? Let's face it, it's a pain in the arse to bin stuff, unless you HAVE to. Why would she unplug them, carry them out, then put them in the dump/bin? It's fairly clear she had taken them for herself or to sell them. Ask for them back,politely but firmly, or for the money for replacements.

You don't want to cause trouble - and you aren't.

[indieheart]

you should request in writing your landlady returns the speakers or allows the value of the speakers to be deducted from the rent. I would start of by being polite and reasonable. I expect your landlady assumed, incorrectly, the house had not been cleared entirely prior to the arrival of the new tenants.

Your tenancy should however state the tenancy start date and will be quite clear that the landlady should not enter within the period of your tenancy, without your prior permission. Sounds like she was expeted and had a legitimate reason to enter, i.e to collect a set of keys.

As for the matter of deposit, all deposits should be placed into the tenant deposit guarantee scheme, but as you've stated your at the beginning of your tenancy, non return of deposit isn't relevant.

Edited July 17, 2010 by indieheart

[Straight_Outta_Trumpton]

Times have changed a bit, most deposits are a month and a half and most are kept by a 3rd party company, all the landlord has to do is say they didn't pay with a bank statement showing that and the company hands it over to them.

[ralph250]

No, that does not risk the deposit. It is a deposit for damage to the property. Unpaid rent cannot be collected from the deposit. It's against the law.

Edited July 18, 2010 by ralph250

[rachbon]

what can you do if the company you rent from tries to keep the deposit? i'm moving out of my flat soon, if they feel that we've damaged the flat and i don't think we have, where do i stand on getting the money back?

Why would a landlady throw speakers away? Let's face it, it's a pain in the arse to bin stuff, unless you HAVE to. Why would she unplug them, carry them out, then put them in the dump/bin? It's fairly clear she had taken them for herself or to sell them. Ask for them back,politely but firmly, or for the money for replacements.

You don't want to cause trouble - and you aren't.

Edited July 18, 2010 by _rachelbon

[Straight_Outta_Trumpton]

what can you do if the company you rent from tries to keep the deposit? i'm moving out of my flat soon, if they feel that we've damaged the flat and i don't think we have, where do i stand on getting the money back?

aye sounds like the stole them for herself.. don't see why she would bin them.

tell her to give them back, if she doesn't, phone the police.

[Guest musiclove123]

I have recently started renting my very first house although I am currently residing in my mum and dads house while I work over summer, however I went to stay in my student house the other week. I took my fairly expensive speakers as the house is bare and I didnt want to get bored, I couldn't be bothered to take them back home when I returned on Monday. Anyway fast forward a week and I told my other housemate he could use them when he arrives, however he rang me to tell me he couldnt see them and rang the land lady to enquire as she had been in to collect keys, and it turns out she had thrown them away!!!I wasnt that bothered at first but then it dawned on me I dont have a spare 70 pound to replace them. I don't really like confrontations and that and I dont want to cause a fuss with the landlady this early, but is she legally required to replace them as I was contracted to move in to the house from the first of July??

[Purple Monkey]

Ah the joys of renting property from Landlords (or as I like to call them - c**ts).

It's not your house, but you're expected to look after it or you are likely to have money taken from your deposit - but when something is remotely out of your remit, such as replacing a shitty boiler that continually breaks, fixing a crack in a wall that allows rain water and cold to breeze right in, or fitting appropriate locks to the front door, they just couldn't give a shit.

So glad I am one month away from never renting ever again and no longer will I be contributing to the sleazy Buy-To-Let market which is dominated almost exclusively by total pricks.

Edited July 18, 2010 by Purple Monkey

[Josie's Cat]

Landlords do sometimes surprise you though - I once spent hours cleaning and scrubbing a rented house, doing the ceilings, inside the oven, skirting boards, everywhere, it was amazing when finished - and then the landlady just showed up, stood in the porch and handed over the full deposit without even looking around!

I was both happy to get the cash and pissed off at the wasted effort.

Although I did once have a landlady try to withold a deposit because there were onion skins in the kitchen drawer and a pair of knickers on the washing line

This was in NZ where they have the third party deposit thing, it went to a tribunal and we got our maoney back, but it was a pain in the arse. Especially as they weren't my knickers.

[gratedenini]

UPDATE REQUIRED---- Whats happened about the speakers???

den