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Why is comedy so shit these days?

Thinking about todays bunch of comedians, Manford, Carr, O'Brian, Mcintyre, Hart, Bishop etc. They are all shite. Same with sitcoms and sketch shows, just terrible. That one on BBC3, someones well good show is just terrible.

Good comedy seems to be limited to sitcoms. IT Crowd, In-betweeners, Rev, The Thick of It. And even then think of all the shite sitcoms that are around. Stand up and sketch shows these days are brutal.

Why is it that the proper stand ups have all vanished and been replaced with this current pile of shit? Comedians like Dave Allen, Victoria Wood, Bob Monkhouse, Billy Connolly, Jo Brand, etc. The 'new breed' is just terrible.

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I generally don't like comedians that make/promote inane drivel and extract laughter by reducing the audiences intelligence rather than raising it - unfortunately for me that means about 95% of all comedians on this planet tend to royally piss me off.

Give me Bill Hicks any day. I would say "God rest his soul" but I don't want to, I want him back, dammit, because it seems as though he came and went and nobody learned anything from the guy. Bill Hicks' rotting corpse would still be ten times funnier, far more animated, poignant and relevant than the inane, waterred down observations of what we're currently being fed as a nation via the likes of television.

I tell you what the problem is with the comedy we're intravenously fed on a weekly basis: there's no anger, there's no truth, and there's no room to let jokes grow, especially on TV. We've unfortunately turned into America - we're too demanding of jokes and CONSTANT FUNNY that there's no room for context, or space to allow ideas to grow and then deliver witty, gut-wrenching belly laughs there's only room for inane random blather or quick-fire puns and punchline-based outrage. There's no depth. We've become joke consumers. That's largely our fault because we, as a nation, seem to love getting hammered and enjoying our comedy with as much froth as possible, the less thought it takes, the better it is. We're more concerned with quantity of jokes, the quantity of laughs, and the more focus that gets placed on quantity, it means that quality gets neglected - this is a universal law for all things - it's f**king maths.

It's like we're desperate to not be laughing 100% of the time that we like to now boo during a pause, we boo pacing, we boo the sewing of seeds - I've seen this happen in a lot of comedy gigs. I'd rather a comedian take time to line up a well-placed bullet straight into my minds eye than just take the machine-gun approach hoping something will stick. Too many comedians opt for the machine-gun approach, I find, which is both equally exhausting and boring, but that seems to be what people want, maybe because more and more people are just flat out retarded. I blame Labour.

Most routines I see on TV are made of lies, compromise and exaggeration, with little to no genuine opinion or personality. The absolute best comedy is ultimately about truth. Because we're now America, jokes are marketed to demographics now more than ever, "jokes are good, do more jokes, people want more jokes, cut back on the build-up, cut the context, just puns, our market demands more gags, more more MORE" The result is we get these joke conveyor belts designed to extract giggles from drunk morons rather than build up to a powerful gut-laugh that strips the subject naked and allows for a vindicating truth to dawn making way for genuine, unifying, healling laugher. No comedian you see on the TV these days makes you open your eyes or think differently, if anything most comedy I've seen recently makes me feel completely alone and frustrated: "why are these idiots laughing? he just said something random. A shitty anecdote about a squirrel in a special hat is not funny - WHAT THE f**k!" and you look around and you see people in fits of laugher you just can't relate to - "HAHAHAHA!!! HE SAID PAEDOPHILE! IT HAD NO CONTEXT OR WIT BUT I FIND IT f**kING HILARIOUS BECAUSE, WELL..... PAEDOPHILES! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!"- It makes me feel isolated and insane, like there's something wrong with me that I'm not laughing. Sometimes I wish I was a retard, just to feel somewhat included in society.

And don't get me started on catchphrases: "HAHAHAHA!!! IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I RECOGNISE IT!! AGAIN! SAY IT AGAIN!!!" f**k off.

I like Dylan Moran and that's about it. f**k the rest.

EDIT: and Stewart Lee, Charlie Brooker, Rich Hall, as this thread has reminded me.

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there's no anger, there's no truth, and there's no room to let jokes grow, especially on TV. We've unfortunately turned into America - we're too demanding of jokes and CONSTANT FUNNY that there's no room for context, or space to allow ideas to grow and then deliver witty, gut-wrenching belly laughs there's only room for inane random blather or quick-fire puns and punchline-based outrage. There's no depth.

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Give me Bill Hicks any day. I would say "God rest his soul" but I don't want to, I want him back, dammit, because it seems as though he came and went and nobody learned anything from the guy. Bill Hicks' rotting corpse would still be ten times funnier, far more animated, poignant and relevant than the inane, waterred down observations of what we're currently being fed as a nation via the likes of television.

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The Inbetweeners isn't funny. Jo Brand isn't funny.

The fact of the matter is it's all about taste. Everyone's got a different sense of humour. Some people think I'm hilarious, other people really don't.

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I watched that "Stand up for the week" mainly because Kevin Bridges is quite good, and Rich Hall is a genius. but f**k me the rest are dire, and that woman comic I'd never heard of until this show made me feel stupid for not knowing who she is "Andi Osho" I think she's called - is f**king awful, possibly the worst standup I have ever seen on the telly, and she is a regular on there apparently.

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T8yman is right about Rich Hall, the man is a god. I must have watched his London not Tenessee dvd at least 20 times now and I still crease up watching it. The bit he does about Jailhouse Rock is just brilliant.

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I'm currently listening to a podcast called "Tell 'em SteveDave", basically it's 3 guys sitting around talking and it just turns into a constant arguement with name calling and trying to trick the other dude into saying something. And that for me is so much more funnier than someone with prepared jokes as this is real and they mean what they say.

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