At least some people can be bothered...

[oafc0000]

Rich and poor alike, give an inch and take a mile. So why the f**k did Brown not close these loopholes when he said he would?

Edited July 27, 2010 by oafc0000

[jump]

How do they avoid paying personal taxes ? I can only presume they didn't "earn" anything in that time...

Edited July 27, 2010 by jump

[oafc0000]

2 ways, they are either declare domicile as in they have british passports, earn money here but don't pay taxes as they aren't birtish (one of the people at works does this) and the other is like Branson in his money isn't liquid it's all in the company so he can only be taxed when he retires/sell his shares, unless of course he f**ks off abroad before though.

Edited July 27, 2010 by oafc0000

[philipsteak]

All awful things... and the government is there to help steady the ship... but its not a license to sit on state support for the rest of your life....

[oafc0000]

See there you sound quite reasonable. Its just some of your other posts at time are a little, and I don't like using this, well, a little Daily Mail.

Edited July 27, 2010 by oafc0000

[pink_triangle]

I have no problem with people who need benefits getting them. I think its particularly difficult of a single mum struggling to make end meats to give up benefits, send her kid to childcare to work and be less well off. I think its hard ot expect these people to think long term.

I do however have problems with the type of people whos children are school age and when interviewed they say they thinks like i dont fancy working in mcdonalds, i wouldnt enjoy working in a factory, cleaning is not my thing. If I was made redundant and working in the NHS who knows what could happen in the next few years, I would take anything untill something better came along. I think people willing to take benefits have to be made to realise that they arent in a poition to be fussy about the work they would take.

I also object to people on benefits still having money for cigarettes, alcohol, sky tv subscriptions, video games and a football season ticket. If people need beenefits then I have no problem contributing to their clothes, food, petrol or college courses. I do however object to subsiding luxury purchases. I would be in favour of a benefit system which provided vouchers not money to limit what people could buy. I have nothing against luxuries but if you want them you need to buy them yourself.

[philipsteak]

Nothing wrong with being a bit Daily Mail.... We have gone a bit soft... We have lost our values... Getting married, sticking together, not having sex outside of a long and stable relationship, being faithful, working for a living,... all laughed at these days... Yet its all stuff the whole of society should be expecting out of everyone... and its a break down of these things that then lead to the knock on issues of people being in these situations...

Yet I am the big bad wolf because I get pissed off when I have to work all day to support my family, not see much of the kid during the week while having to pay my taxes to support people who have no interest in "doing the right thing"...

[oafc0000]

Being faithful and working for a living. Yep, with you on those two. But getting married, sticking together (what, even if its all gone to shit) and no to casual sex. They might be your values but they ain't mine. And I'm a pretty good person. Not that casual sex is a big part of my life. Dammit.

Edited July 27, 2010 by oafc0000

[philipsteak]

Two parents are better than one generally speaking... One of the biggest problem is the growing numbers of single parent family's. The lack of male role models in black children's lives and the resulting consequences in London is one of many great examples of how the country is going to shit....

Two good parents are better than one... I wonder what is going to happen when your casual sex results in a baby ? All of a sudden you have a life on the way with a girl you met last night in a bar... Fecking awesome idea...

I know this opinion pisses people of but I strongly believe it...

[dakyras]

Two parents are better than one generally speaking... One of the biggest problem is the growing numbers of single parent family's. The lack of male role models in black children's lives and the resulting consequences in London is one of many great examples of how the country is going to shit....

Two good parents are better than one... I wonder what is going to happen when your casual sex results in a baby ? All of a sudden you have a life on the way with a girl you met last night in a bar... Fecking awesome idea...

I know this opinion pisses people of but I strongly believe it...

[oafc0000]

So now black people are more likely to 'shop around'?

You're unbelievable.

[Kowalski]

Two parents are better than one generally speaking... One of the biggest problem is the growing numbers of single parent family's. The lack of male role models in black children's lives and the resulting consequences in London is one of many great examples of how the country is going to shit....

Two good parents are better than one... I wonder what is going to happen when your casual sex results in a baby ? All of a sudden you have a life on the way with a girl you met last night in a bar... Fecking awesome idea...

I know this opinion pisses people of but I strongly believe it...

[oafc0000]

Was it the Catholic Church that has ingrained in to you your borderline racist and xenophobic views?

I'm assuming all the other stuff is down to you being a Tory voter.

[saratink]

I was on the dole, and then thought i should go to college so i can get qualified to be able to have a good job.

So, i applied for college, and i've been accepted.

However, the government WON'T give me ANY financial support whilst i'm attending college, even though i'll actually be doing something worthwhile, instead of sitting on my butt doing nothing whilst on the dole. The reason why? because the annual HOUSEHOLD income is more than 18k. But thats the household income. My personal income is 0.

I'm trying to look for a job as well to help me whilst i'm in college, but it's going to be tough, as i will be in college 9-4.30 every week day, and getting a job is tough, espcially if your not available to work when they want you to.

[oafc0000]

I was on the dole, and then thought i should go to college so i can get qualified to be able to have a good job.

So, i applied for college, and i've been accepted.

However, the government WON'T give me ANY financial support whilst i'm attending college, even though i'll actually be doing something worthwhile, instead of sitting on my butt doing nothing whilst on the dole. The reason why? because the annual HOUSEHOLD income is more than 18k. But thats the household income. My personal income is 0.

I'm trying to look for a job as well to help me whilst i'm in college, but it's going to be tough, as i will be in college 9-4.30 every week day, and getting a job is tough, espcially if your not available to work when they want you to.

[Budweiser]

How about the girls with no self esteem, who have failed at school who really believe that the only way to be loved is to sleep with a man, who ends up pregnant, through accident or even a subconscious desire to be in a committed relationship and feel that to get pregnant might finally make them happy.

Edited July 27, 2010 by Budweiser

[markeee]

I watched world strictest parents the other night...  Girl from Liverpool was 17 with a two year old...    Drinks, takes jobs on benefits, mum seem to be the one caring for the kid...  Its good to know your taxes are going in the right places...

[markeee]

How about increasing the minimum wage so that it's significantly more than benefits and big organisations don't post millions upon millions in profits for their shareholders at the expense of exploiting a huge underbelly of our society?

Edited July 27, 2010 by markeee

[dakyras]

or how about decreasing benefits?

atm a lot of them drink, smoke and have sky..all luxuries!

[markeee]

 

Or just control them better. That would solve all the Daily Mail's immigration fears as well. It's not immigration that should be policed better, it's benefits.

[rachbon]

How about increasing the minimum wage so that it's significantly more than benefits and big organisations don't post millions upon millions in profits for their shareholders at the expense of exploiting a huge underbelly of our society?

[oafc0000]

this!

it can happen by accident while people are using contraception you know..

why do you have to be married to stay with your partner? people can have kids, stay together and by happy but some people don't see the need for marriage. it's a choice, it's not something you need to show that you are commited to someone.

Edited July 27, 2010 by oafc0000

[markeee]

oh deff, I know a girl who posted on facebook today she;s pregnant..she has a kid already..1 year old, single mum no job, she's 20 , council house etcand yep..2 kids, 2 diff dads, she's also the one I've seen posting stuff like>

'Oh cant believe xyz., meant to look after jack..now I cant go out ffs

surely, when her kids is just  1year old she should be more concerned about looking after him? Than going out to dumps in town and getting dad number 3 to knock her up?

I mean, I guess it;s her upbringing and lifestyle, but at that young age she should be taking more care for her kid, he wakes up in the night and she isn't there..great, that's why so many of these kids (from these types of girls) can't read or write at the normal young age, because they don't get the right upbringing/care/help at home - but the mums just blame the schools and teachers!

Edited July 27, 2010 by markeee

[lolbeck]

My mum was out of work for a couple of years because of illness. She's still not got a job, but she's tottering along doing Avon and selling old stuff on ebay, and she's getting child support money from the government for my little sisters, and that'll stop next year. It's not a lot but it makes ends meet.

Me and my older brother are at uni, my two little sisters will be starting uni next year. My brother and I currently recieve around £3,000 each in university grants because my mum's not working, and my sisters will get the same next year. That's about £12,000 in total.

If my mum went out and got a job, she'd be earning enough to live more comfortably, but she DEFINITELY wouldn't be earning enough to give me and my siblings the £12,000 between us that we need to feed ourselves and pay for rent etc. at uni. So if my mum got a job, life would be more difficult for her four children.

So is that still wrong? When a mother's staying unemployed so her children can have a better life?

I'm trying to look for a job as well to help me whilst i'm in college, but it's going to be tough, as i will be in college 9-4.30 every week day, and getting a job is tough, espcially if your not available to work when they want you to.

[LusciousLucy]

Well I have joyfully spent the entire day fixing my CV and looking on endless job websites tirelessly and come up with about 3 jobs that I can potentially only just apply for!

Any of the jobhunters out there noticed the ridiculously high amount of bullshit ads there are out there now that claim to offer work but are all mostly bogus or...dont shout at me...another feckin call centre masked behind uplifting but bullshit wording about marketing and events and terms like 'Executive'? Pfffft!

Yes its work I know but as someone who just hates even calling people she knows on the phone let alone a grumpy stranger who has been forced to rise from their comfy sofa from watching Midsomer Murders only to be asked some crap about Double Glazed windows and unsurprisingly slams the phone down on you...no thanks.

I honestly found not one serious job I am actually trained, experienced in or capable of doing on any of the serious job websites today, well apart from one which after hitting the link and thought I was looking at Bristol turned out to be blooming Chester!!!

It gets a bit tiring around page 31 of endless ads of RGN nurses and Trained Fitters, Accountancy trainees, marketing Executives, Dental assistants, Trustees for the Board and so on. Where are the intermediate jobs to be found? The I have good skills and experience but need a better step up on the ladder but the only jobs out there are for fully trained specialist fields leaving only the minimum wage 3000 applicant jobs free? Where and how do you get on the ladder with 15 years of experience and hands in the pies in all manner of things eh???

I would love to volunteer as an animal handler/carer to gain experience in an area I am really interested in getting into but even that is disallowed whilst on JSA unless it officially approved by the pen pushers. Its total bloody crap!!! I cannot afford to just volunteer funnily enough (am not on JSA currently btw).

I want to change the direction of what I have worked in in the past (which is/was not temping btw)...it isnt bloody easy that is for sure and with no money to train with its back to filling my already busy and full CV up with more naff non career complimentary minimum wage temp jobs...and not getting a look in by employers cos the CV doesnt look like I can commit to anything cos its full of sodding temp jobs!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:

Edited July 27, 2010 by LusciousLucy