The Coalition

[eFestivals]

I'll reply back but I'm leaving to go see The Dwarves very soon.

I hadn't noticed that the five leadership contenders were vertically challenged....?

[Ed209]

(if I'd put in some more effort spent less time on these forums it could have been a first)

[Pogues Mcgogues]

The Dwarves

[Alcatraz]

The Dwarves

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Are they Serious about Socialism?

[Uncle Liam]

Well, the one on the right certainly wasnt, and by the end neither was the one in the middle.*

*Unless of course, executing anyone who doesnt agree with you is part of Socialist ideology, which last time I checked, it wasnt.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Well, the one on the right certainly wasnt, and by the end neither was the one in the middle.*

*Unless of course, executing anyone who doesnt agree with you is part of Socialist ideology, which last time I checked, it wasnt.

[Uncle Liam]

Oh, it was a joke!

Nope.... still not remotely funny.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Oh, it was a joke!

Nope.... still not remotely funny.

[llcoolphil]

Your comments are as wanted as premature ejaculation.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

I'll assume Sifi was right then and you cant face answering any of my points

[oafc0000]

Pogo, a degree from Caledonian and a degree from Glasgow do not have remotely the same value - why do you think it easier to get on a course at Caledonian than Glasgow?

[sifi]

That is the sort of bollocks you tend to hear from people who got a degree and never did anything with it... Like yourself...

Gone are the days when where you got your degree mattered a great deal... But you wouldn't know...

Edited August 10, 2010 by sifimaster

[TheGayTent]

Gone are the days when where you got your degree mattered a great deal...

[llcoolphil]

That is the sort of bollocks you tend to hear from people who got a degree and never did anything with it... Like yourself...

Gone are the days when where you got your degree mattered a great deal... But you wouldn't know...

[Uncle Liam]

But Phil is right, there are shitload of universities and degrees out there which arent worth the paper they are printed on.

Take Edge Hill for instance, now my PGCE is from Edge Hill, and its quite good at training teachers and nurses apparently. A regular degree though? Courses which require equivalent of two D's and a C at AS level? Lots of students I taught last year will go to Universities in London, which used to be the old training colleges, and get a degree. Take Sociology at Anglia Ruskin, a measly 200 UCAS points to get on.

And its very worrying I think, because there was one girl on my PGCE who had a THIRD from University of Central Lancashire in Drama and Theatre Studies training to be a teacher. Scary, very scary indeed.

[sifi]

Is one of the most incorrect statements anyone has posted on this site in the last six months.

[TheGayTent]

It was a good one. I thought he'd have to go some to beat that one he made about tax evaders being better than dole scroungers because they got off their arse in order to commit their crime was going to be the high water mark, but this thread has got some real beauties in it.

[sifi]

If you didn't know the oaf and weren't used to his ways, you'd assume he was fishing

[Uncle Liam]

I didn't think I'd ever see you, me, Phil and Liam all in agreement on a subject so quickly. Give Oaf his dues. He does bring people together.

[llcoolphil]

But Phil is right, there are shitload of universities and degrees out there which arent worth the paper they are printed on.

Take Edge Hill for instance, now my PGCE is from Edge Hill, and its quite good at training teachers and nurses apparently. A regular degree though? Courses which require equivalent of two D's and a C at AS level? Lots of students I taught last year will go to Universities in London, which used to be the old training colleges, and get a degree. Take Sociology at Anglia Ruskin, a measly 200 UCAS points to get on.

And its very worrying I think, because there was one girl on my PGCE who had a THIRD from University of Central Lancashire in Drama and Theatre Studies training to be a teacher. Scary, very scary indeed.

[llcoolphil]

I didn't think I'd ever see you, me, Phil and Liam all in agreement on a subject so quickly. Give Oaf his dues. He does bring people together.

[Uncle Liam]

My mate once said he'd love to be a driver; well paid, no distractions and the opportunity to listen to the Radio all day. I must admit he has a serious point.

Anyway, I would like to check out that show. Personally, I wouldnt interview anyone who came to me for a teaching job (and again, I only do A-Levels, so if it was primary it might be different) who had anything less than a 2:1 from a good University. I know nothing about Pogo's Uni, so can comment. But if someone came to me with a degree from UCLAN with crap A-Levels, no chance would I even interview them. I'd want to employ people who clearly know what they are talking about.

ETA: This goes back to what we were saying about exams being too easy as well. More Universities, easier to get into, its a bit of a recipe for disaster really.

Edited August 10, 2010 by Uncle Liam

[oafc0000]

With my HR hat on, I'd say it's highly significant which institution an applicant went to, especially in highly technical roles, as demonstrated by the milk rounds I've been involved in in the past.

And in my experience, the sort of people who say that it doesn't matter where you got your degree from typically went to former Poly Universities rather than a red-brick.

Edited August 10, 2010 by oafc0000

[oafc0000]

Your all full of shit