gratedenini Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 ....its a long wait till me next £50 arrives.... I`m on the lookout for a loophole...anybody knows where I can catch one,I`m famished. I strongly believe if these people who chastise folks on benefits had the misfortune to have to be on benfits themselves... they would blow a different fiddle. I personally have been very much on both sides of the fence (and more) so can very much speak from experience. Anybody who hasn`t had to survive on next to nowt can only offer an opinion,which of course they are entitled to do... but honestly--until you are there...you haven`t a clue. den Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) ....its a long wait till me next £50 arrives.... I`m on the lookout for a loophole...anybody knows where I can catch one,I`m famished. I strongly believe if these people who chastise folks on benefits had the misfortune to have to be on benfits themselves... they would blow a different fiddle. I personally have been very much on both sides of the fence (and more) so can very much speak from experience. Anybody who hasn`t had to survive on next to nowt can only offer an opinion,which of course they are entitled to do... but honestly--until you are there...you haven`t a clue. den Edited August 16, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Anyone want to bet that Oaf pays as little tax as he can get away with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 So your pushing the idea that benefit cheats NEED to cheat ? I say f**k off bollocks to that to be frank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Anyone want to bet that Oaf pays as little tax as he can get away with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Not all by any means, but having seen the opportunity to marginally improve their standards of living, I can see why many do. Most benefits cheats aren't creaming thousands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I pay the exact amount the UK government asks me too... Do you pay more tax than you are meant to ? Do you pay as little as possible ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 oh so thats ok then... if its only a little bit of theft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) you know thats not what i meant. My tax is worked out by my PAYE you are self employed, in my experience of dealing with self employed people, their squirming out of paying the correct amount of tax is standard. I.e. claiming the maximum amount of tax breaks on things people don't really use for work, like home elctricity, mortgage, broadband, when the amount of these things they actually use for work purposes does not come close to the amount claimed for. Also and i'm not saying you do this, but some people i know keep two sets of books, one for the tax man and one that details the cash stuffed into the mattress. Edited August 16, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 No not ok as I said. What I am saying though is that from my own moral standpoint, I have far less of an issue with someone breaking the law to bring in a few hundred quid to their family budget that from multi-millionaires avoiding paying taxes they could easily afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 So your are more concerned about multi millionaires than the guy who might break into your house tonight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 So the guy that is cheating on his benefit, by say taking a cash in hand job and not delcaring it, is going to break into your house too? thats a bit of a leap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) So the guy that is cheating on his benefit, by say taking a cash in hand job and not delcaring it, is going to break into your house too? thats a bit of a leap Edited August 16, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 So your are more concerned about multi millionaires than the guy who might break into your house tonight ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Yep because all crime is equivalent isn't it? Again I don't agree with criminal activity, but I can see why people end up doing it, there is a difference. Things are so black and white with you at times it's scary. Really had enough of this thread now. Enjoy your afternoon all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 One is stealing from your house... The other from the state purse... Seeing as we all kick off about those bankers nicking our money... well... I will leave you to see if you can put 2 and 2 together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 i'm sorry you've totally lost me there, nothing about that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 you're unbelievable oaf, you really are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 What I am saying to you silly billy is I get the advice that is right for me and my business. No, what you get is advice that you believe is right for your business. If your accountant works for clients on the same t&c as every other accountant, he won't even put his name to a piece of paper which says "the advice offered is right for the business". He'll only say "I have offered my advice". Like all of the supposed "professions", accountants are a joke. You get a more worthwhile guarantee about the quality of work off the most dodgy cowboy builder/plumber/whatever than you will ever get from someone from "the professions". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) No, what you get is advice that you believe is right for your business. If your accountant works for clients on the same t&c as every other accountant, he won't even put his name to a piece of paper which says "the advice offered is right for the business". He'll only say "I have offered my advice". Like all of the supposed "professions", accountants are a joke. You get a more worthwhile guarantee about the quality of work off the most dodgy cowboy builder/plumber/whatever than you will ever get from someone from "the professions". Edited August 16, 2010 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I don't think it is right... I just think it is a lesser evil when compared to up front theft... that's right .... the bankers who have ripped us off for a trillion quid and which will effect us and our children for decades are nicer thieves than the benefit claimant who has fiddled their claim to gain themselves an extra tenner a week so they can buy the occasional brand name tin of beans instead of Happy Shopper. FFS. Get some f**king perspective!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 that's right .... the bankers who have ripped us off for a trillion quid and which will effect us and our children for decades are nicer thieves than the benefit claimant who has fiddled their claim to gain themselves an extra tenner a week so they can buy the occasional brand name tin of beans instead of Happy Shopper. FFS. Get some f**king perspective!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABun Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 that's right .... the bankers who have ripped us off for a trillion quid and which will effect us and our children for decades are nicer thieves than the benefit claimant who has fiddled their claim to gain themselves an extra tenner a week so they can buy the occasional brand name tin of beans instead of Happy Shopper. FFS. Get some f**king perspective!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feral chile Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 I do question that stuff... But I am also prepared to call people who steal from the public purse what they are... Its not an either or option... Probably David Milliband... but to be honest I haven't really given it a lot of thought just yet... Defo not voting for Abbott or Balls... I can say that much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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