Young,Dumb and Living off Mum BBC3

[ampersand]

that's meat.

[sifi]

Who has left?

[ampersand]

Who has left?

[rachbon]

who is still here?

langdale has gone, as has katster pretty much.

and folk like jaybles, ralph, brighteyes et al only post sparingly.

it's shite!

[oafc0000]

there's an expression I've never understood

Edited August 22, 2010 by oafc0000

[sifi]

Would your definition of family values include same sex parents, oaf?

[sifi]

Would your definition of family values include same sex parents, oaf?

[ampersand]

Would your definition of family values include same sex parents, oaf?

[ampersand]

it's a discussion, an opportunity for me to 'talk' with people who have ideas (like oafs) who I don't normally get a chance to engage with, and to try and find out (sometimes) where their opinions and ideas originate from

[oafc0000]

Would your definition of family values include same sex parents, oaf?

Edited August 22, 2010 by oafc0000

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Some of this is just weird ...

I think sitting down with the family to share a meal is probably the most important thing a family can do. It allows everyone to relinquish focus, to be relieved of distraction, to come together and eat, drink, talk, share ... its possibly the only time that everyone can just drop their guard, relax and be themselves. It allows the provider of the meal to feel genuinely purposeful whilst at the same time allowing those that are being fed to be appreciative of the effort in the nourishment provided for them. Its too obvious to state that we need food to survive, but sharing a meal as a family is symbolic in its action.

If some think its no big deal to just eat separately and can't see the point in eating together, to share a meal ... I pity you. I guess it depends on what your experience of eating together is. Perhaps its all silence, the clinking and clanging of cutlery on porcelain, then getting up and going back to the sofa to watch tv? But not me ... the evening meal is the one daily ritual, where we can really be a family.

This topic will be a discussion at our table tomorrow, after I have cooked a leg of lamb, roast potatoes, yorkshire pud, roast parsnips, broccoli, peas, carrots and mint infused gravy for the family (I always do sunday).

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Who's all left and for what reasons?

That pogo guy f**ked off though, thank christ!

[oafc0000]

Pogo when you was a child did you not have family meals together then ? How would it work at dinner times when you was growing up ?

Edited August 22, 2010 by oafc0000

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Pogo when you was a child did you not have family meals together then ? How would it work at dinner times when you was growing up ?

[oafc0000]

Sometimes, sometimes not. Wasn't scripted you see. Plus young children won't be eating the same things all the time as adults.

Edited August 22, 2010 by oafc0000

[Pogues Mcgogues]

"sometimes"... So not all that weird then...

[sifi]

I think the expression means different things to different people..

To me it means:

• Two parents, married, committed to each other. The promotion of marriage to your children.
• Strong ethics which you install into your children
• Strong sense of family - aka do things together, eat together, support each other
• Take a great interest and interference in your kids life
• No sex before marriage (or at least a very committed relationship)
• expect manners, respect and discipline at all times
• No foul language

That sort of stuff...

I see so many families these days that operate very few of these and its sad...

[ampersand]

ampersand - see your here on your previous point

Not family dinners "weird" dear god oaf. The thing I started talking about after I said it. Having the notion of making it an event.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

whit?

[sifi]

Look at the pouint you made of trolling. Go back and re-read oaf's posts to me in this thread (and over the last week realy)

[Pogues Mcgogues]

I wasn't trolling. I wanted to know if Oaf's idea of a family included parents of the same sex or not. I agree with him on that. How is that trolling Ampersand?

[sifi]

Everyne is a f**king victim, hey?

[brighteyes]

who is still here?

langdale has gone, as has katster pretty much.

and folk like jaybles, ralph, brighteyes et al only post sparingly.

it's shite!

[ampersand]

I wasn't trolling. I wanted to know if Oaf's idea of a family included parents of the same sex or not. I agree with him on that. How is that trolling Ampersand?

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Everyne is a f**king victim, hey?