Tony Blair to give all profits to British Legion

[oafc0000]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10988478

People can make there own minds up but I think it is a great donation...

I don't think Tony Blair is the big evil man he is made out to be...

[gratedenini]

I fully agree. He cant win anywhichway. He gives money...and his detractors still rip him to shreds...if he didnt give any---they would rip him to shreds.

Its difficult for us to argue the toss when you hear the parents of the lost soldiers etc etc...but trying to be objective... call me a naive soft lump of shite... but I just cannot bring myself to believe that Blair is this power-man war monger he is made out to be.

He completely turned the fortune of Labour and made them electable... his policies were a breath of fresh air at the time.

Maybe he overstayed by a few years... but I still think his heart was in the right place.

When you see the blatant corruption that goes on in loads of countries round the world... its surely not as bad here.

He (and others) made decisions based on the info they were party to and although I cant speak with any authority on the ins and outs of the Blix thing... from what I saw... saddam was blatantly making things difficult for the inspectors and there was evidence of terrible atrocities commited against his "own" people.

He was a f**kin bad egg. Never mind all these sanctions and UN resolutions... at least we had the balls to stand up against it.

I do wonder though about our relationship with America and just how much Bush pulled strings to which Blair succumbed.

I think Blair is a decent bloke who went into politics with the best intentions. A label which I would put on Cameron as well.

I draw the line at Twatcher... even though she herself might have entered politics with the same intentions.. she really did turn into a power-man bastard.

den

[Alcatraz]

Its the largest donation the Legion have ever received. Don't get me wrong its incredibly generous. But for some soldiers this might be quite a hard thing to accept. This is all coming from the man who it appears exposed these men to life changing injuries on totally false pretenses in the case of Iraq

Making this public was the only thing to do, being accused of profiting from the book would have received a lot of criticism as it was

[Cardboard Box City]

But for some soldiers this might be quite a hard thing to accept. This is all coming from the man who it appears exposed these men to life changing injuries on totally false pretenses in the case of Iraq

[Alcatraz]

The vast majority of soldiers simply accept they're going to war to do their job, the reasoning for proper soldiers is usually niether here nor there.

[gratedenini]

Its the largest donation the Legion have ever received. Don't get me wrong its incredibly generous. But for some soldiers this might be quite a hard thing to accept. This is all coming from the man who it appears exposed these men to life changing injuries on totally false pretenses in the case of Iraq

Making this public was the only thing to do, being accused of profiting from the book would have received a lot of criticism as it was

[Alcatraz]

See...this is the issue eh. Anti-Blair people say what you say above. But I just cannot accept in any way or form that he alone made such a decision. Knowing fine well, it was all under false pretenses--he takes the country to war?? And just what benefit does he get from that?

I dont see it mesell.Am i wrong in thinking that Saddam seemed to be a very real threat?

I didnt mind him being "dealt with"---and felt it right and proper he should be.

Edited August 16, 2010 by Alcatraz

[Cardboard Box City]

this is the US foreign policy from pre-Second World War.

[Alcatraz]

Such as? I'm intrigued.

Edited August 16, 2010 by Alcatraz

[oafc0000]

His decision on Kosovo and Sierra Leone have IMO been the right ones, mostly because they operated with the UN, with clear knowledge of how the nation will be restored and governed once peace is brought about.

Edited August 16, 2010 by oafc0000

[pink_triangle]

I dont see how him donating the money is anything but a good thing. Whether you think the war is right or wrong, most would concede that they money will make more of a diiference with the british legion than blair.

[Alcatraz]

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You might want to check your facts there my frog like friend..

Kosovo was under taken by NATO and not the United Nations and was, just like IRAQ, quite possibly illegal... (as almost every war has been)

Sierra Leone, you might want to look at the British action well before any UN involvement...

The whole IRAQ war being illegal thing has been a total boring pile of donkey crap Its war... Not f**king pooh sticks...

[gratedenini]

Your arguments are much more "formed" than mine. I dont profess to know much about the details etc etc...so only base my arguement on my non-acceptance to believe these people do it on purpose.

Y`know--when you look back at how "we" just stood on and allowed all that shite in Serbia and that... on our own back yard--it does make you wonder. Oil and that. America.

Either way... I would argue, in the style of Mr Oaf that Blair didnt deliberatley,on purpose just take this country to War fer nowt.

den

[Uncle Liam]

His decision on Kosovo and Sierra Leone have IMO been the right ones, mostly because they operated with the UN, with clear knowledge of how the nation will be restored and governed once peace is brought about. Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan had this planning, hence in my view they are inexcusible. Instead, you have two governments who respond to one nation, the USA, rather than the entire International community. There is a danger that resources and profits go to the invaders, rather than be re-invested back into the development of Afghanistan or Iraq, this is the US foreign policy from pre-Second World War. As an individual, Blair showed a total disregard for the UN charter, and as a result, has weakened it as an organisation. As a result, the world is more dangerous because of his actions.

Saddam was as much a threat to the world as Ahmadinhejad is today and as much as a threat to his own people as Ahmadinejad and many other leaders in the world today. So why go for Saddam?

[rabid]

Is it just me that thinks this is going to look bloody good on his Self Assessment?

[Cardboard Box City]

The Phillipines and the banana wars

[philipsteak]

150 quid is still a lot for a book though

[Uncle Liam]

£12.50 for me from amazon

[oafc0000]

150 quid is still a lot for a book though

[Alcatraz]

I think he's talking about those special edition ones

[gratedenini]

I shall get it for free thanks to Tony and his policy to keep Consett Library open.

Good Old Tony... pity Twatcher didnt keep the Steelworks open.

den

[eFestivals]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10988478

People can make there own minds up but I think it is a great donation...

I don't think Tony Blair is the big evil man he is made out to be...

While it's far more generous than most rich people manage, it's still very easy to give away £5M when you'll still have £15M in the bank.

[oafc0000]

While it's far more generous than most rich people manage, it's still very easy to give away £5M when you'll still have £15M in the bank.

[sifi]

He's clearly trying to atone for the guilt that he feels about his actions - the lies that he told the country to get support for our invovlement in an illegal war, which was not about WMDs or anything as noble as freeing the Iraqi people. It was all about the oil contracts and nothing more than that.

Actually, I'm not even convinced he's trying to atone. If he was simply looking to atone for his guilt, it wouldn't be all over the press. He's trying to clean his public image.

[oafc0000]

He's clearly trying to atone for the guilt that he feels about his actions - the lies that he told the country to get support for our invovlement in an illegal war, which was not about WMDs or anything as noble as freeing the Iraqi people. It was all about the oil contracts and nothing more than that.

Actually, I'm not even convinced he's trying to atone. If he was simply looking to atone for his guilt, it wouldn't be all over the press. He's trying to clean his public image.