jono_01 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I've always loved the area where I come from. I always try to defend it, talk about it's history, it's accomplishments, it's friendly people and it's future. I accept that every part of the country has it's 'rough' areas, areas where there are giant council housing estates or drug problems. But not all of the people who happen to live here are bad people. Probably the vast minority are in fact. Teesside, Tees Valley, Old Cleveland, North Riding, South East Durham or whatever it is called now is where I am from. How can the people from here, who love the area defend it when you see stuff like this in the local news night after night after night. If it's not some old pensioner who is getting dusted and the £15 in her purse swagged then it's needles in MacDonalds toilets or scruffy twats with their hands in their nether regions spitting every 10 seconds smashing bus stops up. Our local paper has this article today and I feel angry. It pisses me right off that we should have to read this crap week in week out. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2010/08/19/five-more-victims-of-senseless-violence-on-teesside-84229-27094879/ Please Please Please tell me that this stuff happends elsewhere daily too? If it doesn't then I want to know where you live. I will be selling up and joining you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Monkey Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) This is England, you'll be hard pressed to find somewhere that doesn't suffer from a chav problem, regardless of class or affluence. Edited August 19, 2010 by Purple Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampersand Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 don't know where it was, but there was a 90 year old man mugged and beaten for petty cash outside his flat a couple months ago and died yesterday in hospital. that's about as scummy as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 There was some teenage pick who decided it would be funny to set fire to a living horse near me awhile ago, and the only reason he was caught was because he went around bragging about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 you know the answer, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole2006 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Some random thug came up to me last weekend and started shouting abuse at me but I just walked on and let it go, there was this couple walking behind him who said "They were a right bunch of cocks wern't they", and bear it in mind that my town got voted the 2nd nicest place to live in a local paper. The truth is you get scum anywhere you go even if it is the "2nd nicest place to live", I was walking through town at about 8 oclock at night going to meet some friends so what did I expect? They would have done it to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I accept that every part of the country has it's 'rough' areas, areas where there are giant council housing estates or drug problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Some random thug came up to me last weekend and started shouting abuse at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHole2006 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 So when you get a head of steam up on the Glasto boards and start hurling abuse at people you have never met, does that make you a thug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Hey? I have never once hurled abuse at anyone on the Glasto boards and even if it comes across as I have it's always either a failed attempt at banter or tongue in cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 So when you get a head of steam up on the Glasto boards and start hurling abuse at people you have never met, does that make you a thug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexclark Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I used to stay in a very rough area, but never got any real trouble. I just kept my head down and got on with it. Obviously this doesn't happen to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) Not the same Phil. Edited August 19, 2010 by llcoolphil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubenz Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 "It is believed three girls in a horse and cart parked on Winward Way witnessed the incident. " sounds pretty harsh... I live in a posh area they do not allow chavs around here.....the locals are still a pretty rude bunch but in a different way.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Can we stop using the word chav in this thread please - it is an offensive racial stereotype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubenz Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Can we stop using the word chav in this thread please - it is an offensive racial stereotype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Are chavs a race? would urchin be acceptable..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubenz Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 (edited) No but it derives from child in romany. Urchin would be more than acceptable, especially if you live in a posh area. As would ragamuffin Edited August 19, 2010 by rubenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Can we stop using the word chav in this thread please - it is an offensive racial stereotype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llcoolphil Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 How do you feel about charva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabid Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 If we are using it as a derogatory term for 'brain dead scum' equally uncomfortable - it's the same derivative. If we are using it to mean simply 'kid' - great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifelessfool Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think its the same where ever you go sadly, I was having a similar conversation with my parents and the only escape is probably a country house or a little hamlet. I went through a stage of being to uncomfortable to walk home alone and it still there a little bit, maybe abit too much road wars/street wars in my life but for some reason I feel more comfortable walking in Manchester than my home town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 (edited) There was some teenage pick who decided it would be funny to set fire to a living horse near me awhile ago, and the only reason he was caught was because he went around bragging about it. Edited August 20, 2010 by Budweiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogues Mcgogues Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 We have Neds in Scotland which means non educated delinquent, ie. we make up something from scratch that means something and makes sense when delivered in the desired way. Phil - Rosie Kane tried that argument, although it was pointed out that anyone with any sense doesn't use it in a serious manner. Eg - We were the "Goths" at school without anyone hanging around with us being a goth, but it was a collective term for those folks who liked "rock" music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono_01 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Why is 'rough area' synonymous with 'council estate'? Perhaps part of the problem (I say perhaps but dont mean it) is that kids grow up with certain expectations placed on them and they simply fulfil those expectations? In this sentence here you have automatically placed council estates as rough areas. If you grow up with people repeatedly telling you that you live in a rough area, do you think that might have an impact on how you behave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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