Labour Leadership Contest

[oafc0000]

Yeah cause students wouldn't have much experience of that. And please quote me where I said I love careerism or that I wanted a student to become Labour leader (where the hell did the student thing even come from anyone?). Try and analyse what people read before making snipey little comments cause you lack sleep.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

You might be interested to know the baby is sleeping through the night now...

[oafc0000]

Well if it's not lack of sleep I'll just assume you're a bit of a c**t.

[llcoolphil]

Was it not you who told oaf that he cares too much about work type? What about his social experiences?

Edited August 21, 2010 by llcoolphil

[llcoolphil]

Are you suggesting organisations like the NUS are just a bit of fun or something? That student associations and collective student bodies are limited in any way?

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Please, please please tell me this isn't a serious point. Please.

But if it is a serious point, tell me one thing the NUS have achieved in the last 20 years on a national level.

[oafc0000]

Like the NUS. Not solely the NUS. Are you suggesting that student movements achieve nothing?

I'm fairly sure you know what the NUS do.

Edited August 21, 2010 by oafc0000

[Bezdad]

I think young Pogo's been drinking...

I did enjoy his quote about Abbott being his perfect candidate in an ideal world though, closely followed by an admission that he was going to vote for someone entirely different. Not quite in keeping with his protestations about how he's bringing about change from within. How very New Labour!

[llcoolphil]

Like the NUS. Not solely the NUS. Are you suggesting that student movements achieve nothing?

I'm fairly sure you know what the NUS do.

[oafc0000]

Well if you aren't going to vote for Abbot, you're a bit stuffed really. Burnham is the one least like the other three (beyond being a white middle class 40 something male who is Oxbridge educated), but the other three are all career politicians with no experience outside of it. And all three are where they are entirely because of who they are and who they know and who they are related to.

[llcoolphil]

This

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11049538

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Wondering why bother with Labour (I mean seriously...20 mill of debt ?? )... or any party...

Don't like the Libs under Clegg and not interested in the Torys... For the first time I am starting to get pretty tired of politics...

[Pogues Mcgogues]

They achieve absolutely bugger all, always have and always will.

[llcoolphil]

Stopping the BNP in Durham.

The Fairtrade campaign which is on its way to making all affiliated university unions to be 100% fairtrade on hot drinks.

The NUS proposed a graduate tax and ohhh look, graduate tax is on the agenda. Done last year under Wes Streeting's presidency, who was a Labour Student and very good public speaker.

Edited August 22, 2010 by llcoolphil

[llcoolphil]

oops

Edited August 22, 2010 by llcoolphil

[Pogues Mcgogues]

At what point do any of these things give you the experience to run the country? And the last one will only happen if rich people have an opt out to pay up front and thus not pay an increased level of tax.

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And what on earth do they have to do with improving the lot of students, the substancive purpose of the NUS?

[llcoolphil]

An exageration of statistics to make a point I'd imagine.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

An exaggeration by whom?

[llcoolphil]

Lord Prescott.

[Pogues Mcgogues]

So the bloke who is hoping to be the next treasurer of the labour party is making up figures?

[llcoolphil]

I didn't say he made them up. In fact, I said I agreed with him.

[oafc0000]

Come on pogo... It is clear someone has been lying about it all...

Labour have really embarrassed themselves I am sad to say...

[Pogues Mcgogues]

So when they and you said after the election that labour was getting more new members they forgot to tell us about the existing members that must have been leaving in droves?

[oafc0000]

lol, I don't think it's Labour that's in the dock for lying on efests tonight.

[llcoolphil]

I know there was a curve after the election. As I previously said though, I think it's more or less levelled off, having increased after the election, and the need now is to keep on that increase. It would make sense that the website crashing then, as it wouldn't have been made to cope with the expected demands.

Edited August 23, 2010 by llcoolphil

[Pogues Mcgogues]

Joking a side pogo... If people like you aren't confused and concerned about the comments coming from Labour then who is ?