gratedenini Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Heck, I`m sick of this!! Had this problem for ages now, and i just cant sort it out. When i send email via Outlook Express.. about 90% of em just bounce back showing the message below. And if I get one through,I cant send another one to that same person..just bounces back. I can send messages no problem through my gmail account. I have tried to check my setting within OE,but it all seems ok. I have tried to use System Restore to no avail. Its a right arse on cos I never know if email has actually gone or not. Goes without sayin I cant make head nor tail of the stuff below,so if anyone can assist, i would appreciate it. I`m using XP. A message from <******@aol.com> to: ->*******@ymail.com was considered unsolicited bulk e-mail (UBE). Our internal reference code for your message is 25892-02/Y87HX1kDXDV2 The message carried your return address, so it was either a genuine mail from you, or a sender address was faked and your e-mail address abused by third party, in which case we apologize for undesired notification. We do try to minimize backscatter for more prominent cases of UBE and for infected mail, but for less obvious cases of UBE some balance between losing genuine mail and sending undesired backscatter is sought, and there can be some collateral damage on both sides. First upstream SMTP client IP address: [178.96.97.205] According to a 'Received:' trace, the message originated at: [178.96.97.205], customer25030.96.ld.cust.t-mobile.co.uk [178.96.97.205] helo=Denis Return-Path: <******@aol.com> Message-ID: <15A9F9AA81E440F8B8972C83E4F13AE1@Denis> Subject: 11.51 20th Sept Delivery of the email was stopped! Final-Recipient: rfc822;csealtd@ymail.com Action: failed Status: 5.7.0 Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 5.7.0 Reject, id=25892-02 - SPAM Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:52:01 +0100 (BST) Final-Log-ID: 25892-02/Y87HX1kDXDV2 Return-Path: <*****@aol.com> Received: from customer25030.96.ld.cust.t-mobile.co.uk ([178.96.97.205] helo=Denis) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <*****@aol.com>) id 1Oxdya-0006ke-Om for csealtd@ymail.com; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:52:01 +0100 Message-ID: <15A9F9AA81E440F8B8972C83E4F13AE1@Denis> From: "The Grate Denini" <*******@aol.com> To: <*****@ymail.com> Subject: 11.51 20th Sept Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:51:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01CB58BA.38B1AA40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 178.96.97.205 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ******@aol.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on localhost); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jump Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Have both you and your mate both set each other up as contacts/non-spam or are you trying to send something with an attachment that might be dogdy (like not having a file ext. at the end) otherwise I've got no clue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t8yman Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 wont fix your problem with outlook express den, but just f**k it right off, use gmail. you can use gmail to check your pop3 email too (if you use pop3 email). get it all in one place, and accessible worldwide. I havent looked back since I sacked off outlook. also, thunderbird is very good, and will import the settings from outlook very easily. if you insist on having an email program. if you are tied to outlook professionally - then sorry for wasting your time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I'm pretty sure it's because AOL will only allow mail sent from an AOL connection &/or an AOL email address to use their SMTP (outgoing) mail servers. Looking at what you've posted, it looks like you're trying to send AOL mail via a t-mobile connection. AOL will see that as an attempt by a non-customer to use their outgoing mail server, which in most cases is someone trying to send spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windy_miller Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I think there are two problems here... - You are on a T-Mobile network trying to use an AOL mail server - You are trying to send mail from an @ymail.com address using an AOL mail server You should find out what the T-Mobile SMTP server is and use that. Also, use thunderbird instead of Outlook Express because it is loads better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Also, use thunderbird instead of Outlook Express because it is loads better. Perhaps, but his mail client isn't any part of the problem he's having. If his mail client is satisfactory for him (and why wouldn't it be? It send and receives his mail OK) then there's no need to change it. Den is obviously a computer novice (no offence meant), and the setup he has works for him. There's no need to confuse things further for him. - You are trying to send mail from an @ymail.com address using an AOL mail server No, he's trying to send mail TO that domain. That's not any part of the problem he has. Edited September 21, 2010 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halcyon Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 People still use AOL? In 2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 People still use AOL? In 2010? yeah, tho it's not actually AOL anymore, and hasn't been for quite a while. In the UK it's owned by Carphone Warehouse or someone similar, who really only wanted it for its customer base. I have a feeling that the US business was shut down recently, but I might be wrong about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono_01 Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 People still use AOL? In 2010? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gratedenini Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Thanks for the replies. Think No1 has hit it right on the head. AOL.... look. Years ago, with limited choice...seemed like everyody was on AOL, and hey... y`know what? I could type some words--press a button---and miraculously--they would be received by a mate across the world. I could find gigs that I would never have seen in the past, learn things,look at things...and of course PORN. It was great. Why would i want to change? On of my computer anoraks would be always sending me invitations to go onto Gmail and Fieryfox etc etc. I couldn`t see any benefits tbh... AOL was giving me everything I wanted and i had no probs with it. Same with me mobile phone..I`m past all this all singin an dancin features..I just wanna send a text and talk to someone. Yes, it seems like the T-mobile theory is correct...but--if thats the case--why does it allow it sometimes? I was wondering if I uninstalled it and retried... but after resading the replies--- i dont think that would do it. I hate the thought of me tinkering with it all---then find i cant do jack shit. Yes, I am a novice in some respects--ha --but ot as bad as me mate across the road---he hasn`t even got email!!! I suppose the answer is to scrap it and just go with gmail...but as i`ve said..I`m just so used to it now (as i was with AOL mail). I like it that when I START UP, in the column I can click on OE and it loads up with my email etc..then i carry on to online searching etc. Can i put the gmail thing in that column and go straight to that? Make sense? thank you all anyway. den Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yes, it seems like the T-mobile theory is correct...but--if thats the case--why does it allow it sometimes? There's several possibilities, including it not ever allowing it but you believing that it does for some reason. But it's also more than possible that AOL has one badly configured SMTP server which you hit randomly (the way AOL is setup, you don't necessarily always use the same server) and which allows your mail to go thru. (I've had my own problems with AOL having badly configured servers over the years, and my complaints to them have had them fixed on occasions - and all of this without me ever having used AOL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gratedenini Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 There's several possibilities, including it not ever allowing it but you believing that it does for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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