Domestic Problems Number Two

[RABun]

I was allowed out until 10 if a guy walked me home, from 14 onwards.

I used to go down the pub with my brothers and drink from about the same age onwards. My parents knew about it and were comfortable that i was not getting shitfaced. I did once come home drunk when i was 12 ish - my friends mum fed me rum cocktails with all sorts of crap in (schnapps etc). I got home and my dad realised i was drunk and took me out to sober me up. He didnt get angry with me or stop me going anywhere, just advised me not to get drunk as it would make me ill. I have never been a big drinker and i'm still not. I think that was because of the relaxed attitude my parents had to it.

I got pregnant at 15 and i wasn't drunk or high on drugs. I had other issues certainly. Thats another story and nothing to do with having too much freedom.

My son has never had a drink problem. He drinks ocassionally and has done probably since about 14 with a few tasters before then. He had a party last weekend and i bought him a crate of lager and helped him make a small amount of vodka jelly. No-one got shitfaced or disgraced themselves.

Drugs on the other hand are a bit of a problem, i talked to him about them about the pro's and con's. I asdvised him that taking drugs or even smojking dope while school age is not beneficial for educational purposes. He knew he could always come to me if he was in trouble.

He did though, as i've said on here before, develop a drug problem, not in that he was particularly addicted, but he did overuse recreational drugs and stole from me and my mum to pay for it. Causing a major upset and breaking my mothers heart in the process. At that point i removed him from the situation, sent him to live with my brother and sister in law where he would be away from certain influences i didnt want for him, and where he would be more supervised. He had to change schools which was ok anyway as he was about to be excluded from his posh grammer school. He has since been given more freedom back as he has proved he can be trusted to behave responsibly and has been far more successful at school than he would have been had he stayed where he was. He now doesn't really do any drugs at all, though he did say he had a joint at the prodigy gig he went to recently. I'm ok with that, i just have to keep one eye open to make sure it doesnt escalate into something more serious. I honestly do not know what the best thing to do about drugs is. I don;'t know if i did the right thing or if i've been a terrible parent. I do know that if i had to do it all again i would not restrict his freedom any more than i did.

[Kowalski]

Using the logic presented... It is better if parents introduce them to it so the friends don't

[oafc0000]

I am black and white!! My child was living in a cage according to you lot yesterday

[ampersand]

Another belter.

What logic has been presented to suggest parents should be introducing their kids to anything that's illegal?

[oafc0000]

and your responses don't make sense...

do you think we all get together to conspire against you... ?

you say things like "you lot", and "your type"...

it doesn't make for a very constructive debate

[Kowalski]

supplying minors with alcohol is illegal is it not? family or not. hence why you will see both parent and child being id'd sometimes at shops

[sifi]

Actually children from age 5 are allowed to drink alcohol in private.

Oaf is way off the mark by comparing alcohol to illegal drugs, as usual.

[oafc0000]

I think he also said he's be introducing booze to his kids at home from an youngish age too.

[Paul ™]

Time for Problem number 3?

[sifi]

Yup... It isn't if you introduce your kids to booze but how you go about it which is being discussed...

[dakyras]

Time for Problem number 3?

[sifi]

Time for Problem number 3?

[oafc0000]

What are you trying to say here, exactly?

And once upon a time this thread (I know, I started it) was about booze at parties. This argument can be about anything people want it to be.

[sifi]

I suppose if you cherry pick your quotes and ignore all the other comments in a thread you could have a field day

[Kowalski]

Yup... It isn't if you introduce your kids to booze but how you go about it which is being discussed...

[Kowalski]

"How do I keep my child locked securely in his/her cage?"

[sifi]

I've seen kids at Glasto peddling drugs. A lovely little kid dressed up like a fairy up in the traveller fields asking us if we wanted any sweeties and to speak to her mother. Working her corner.

[oafc0000]

I'm not cherry picking anything. I'm asking you to explain what you mean on drugs by that which you've posted, keeping in mind you yourself said you would introduce your kid to booze at an early age less than half an hour before hand.

I really don't understand what your point was. You want to introduce your kids to drugs?

[sifi]

I will be talking to them and try and educate them on the issue though...

Edited October 4, 2010 by sifimaster

[oafc0000]

Telling them that it's best to use lighter paper rizlas, putting the roach in before you roll it up, that kind of thing?

[jump]

No, not really...

[sifi]

No, not really...

[oafc0000]

Like what then? I hope you're not gonna go down the whole drug scare tactic route.

[sifi]

I always put the roach in last...

Edited October 4, 2010 by sifimaster

[swede]

My experience....

My mum and dad were fine with me drinking underage. They would occasionaly buy me a carry out (never enough but we got more ) and knew exactly where I was because I didn't have to hide it from them. If I was going to a pub or whatever I'd text them when I was in and leaving (my mum liked that for peace of mind). Two texts that's all. I was brought up and learnt how much I could handle, how to treat alcohol right and was always drinking in a safe enviroment (houses or pubs) because they encouraged me to learn about it in a safe place. I didn't have to hide it and I never got to hospital on it.