Child Benefit cut

[oafc0000]

Yet he thinks he's suffering. =

[eFestivals]

I was talking about a family on £44k you retard I wasn't talking about me

they still ain't suffering. They get to lose £1k a year in benefits while creaming off £20k+ from other people's work.

Do you really think anyone getting by on £20k or less (median average wage is £21k - tories like to give the mean average [£26k], cos it makes them look less like the greedy c**ts they are) is going to feel sorry for someone who is still £24k+ better off than them? You're frigging mad!

[eFestivals]

Yep, but they don't run everywhere and Waterloo won't let people in the station till 4am so if you live in say Guilford (only 30m but I'm using that as an example as I know someone at work who doesn't come to work do's because of it) you're buggered as the last train on a sat is 1am and first train is 7am.

ahhh, things have changed in the last 15 years then, apologies.

[RABun]

I was talking about a family on £44k you retard I wasn't talking about me

[RABun]

ahhh, things have changed in the last 15 years then, apologies.

Edited October 5, 2010 by RABun

[oafc0000]

Didnt you say earlier in the thread that the CB pays for your childs swimming lessons and you'll struggle without it?

[RABun]

No, I didn't say we would struggle... Just look instead of making it up...

[jump]

I still go to work do's especially as they tend to start at about 5 and I am pished by 9 and so can still get a train quite easily at that point, after i have exhausted the possibilities of one of my brothers or my OH coming to get me because i feel ill.

[RABun]

But the real fun happens when you get kicked out of the restraunt and then move on to a club , it's also when the things you'll be gossiping about on a Monday happens.

[dakyras]

I've never been arsed with clubbing. It's the most pointless thing to do. You can't hear anyone, the drinks are always terrible and/or expensive, the floor's sticky, and the people there are f**king minging.

[oafc0000]

i wasnt that far off the mark. So when you say you are not talking about you but other people less fortunate you really were talking about you until you needed to change your argument?

Edited October 5, 2010 by oafc0000

[eFestivals]

In my mind, IF this is going to be cut, then I would say it needs judging on family income... Say about £70k ?

f**k me, you don't have a frigging clue of what life is like for most people do you?

[Ed209]

I've never been arsed with clubbing. It's the most pointless thing to do. You can't hear anyone,

[oafc0000]

f**k me, you don't have a frigging clue of what life is like for most people do you?

[eFestivals]

Why because I have shown how a one income family on £40-50k still need some level of support ?

no, what you've shown is that you *think* they need some level of support.

If people on £44k+ a year "still need some level of support" meaning child benefit at around £1k a year, then surely it's the case that those on £20k a year need govt support of £25k+ a year?

By your logic it couldn't be any other way.

Yet the mean wage (which is what could be said to be the amount this country can afford to pay any individual on average) is only £26k - so by your method we have a £18k+ average increase in benefits for every working person in the country.

Which of course, given the deficit, is as ridiculous as it can possible get.

I don't think you can see much beyond your own position in life...

No, that's you that is.

If you want to talk about introducing the living wage etc to help the bottom end I am all ears...

Happy to talk about it.

An increase will require your own wages to decrease by the laws of economics. Still all for it?

[oafc0000]

Happy to talk about it.

An increase will require your own wages to decrease by the laws of economics. Still all for it?

[the_hedge]

If you are earning over 44k then in my eyes you can afford it.

What really makes me laugh are all the ones moaning about it at work saying they will struggle are the ones with the massive mortgages and expensive cars that no one made them buy!!

I just wish they had done it with the winter fuel allowance as well. Why people earning over 40k a year need that I will never know!!

Edited October 5, 2010 by the_hedge

[eFestivals]

no, what you've shown is that you *think* they need some level of support.

If people on £44k+ a year "still need some level of support" meaning child benefit at around £1k a year, then surely it's the case that those on £20k a year need govt support of £25k+ a year?

By your logic it couldn't be any other way.

Yet the mean wage (which is what could be said to be the amount this country can afford to pay any individual on average) is only £26k - so by your method we have a £18k+ average increase in benefits for every working person in the country.

Which of course, given the deficit, is as ridiculous as it can possible get.

I see you ignored all of this part oaf - any reason why?

Like perhaps you've realised how ridiculous you're being?

[oafc0000]

I see you ignored all of this part oaf - any reason why?

Like perhaps you've realised how ridiculous you're being?

[eFestivals]

You simply have a problem with anyone who has more money than you... Thats why...

No.

But you defo have a problem with your own thinking, that those earning twice the average are in need of govt support.

[oafc0000]

No.

But you defo have a problem with your own thinking, that those earning twice the average are in need of govt support.

[bunique]

How much of 44k would a person take home?

[jump]

How much of 44k would a person take home?

[RABun]

How much of 44k would a person take home?

Edited October 5, 2010 by RABun

[llcoolphil]

I am the sort of person who shouldn't really be getting it...

Mine and my wifes income equal a huge income...

I was talking about a £44k salary family... We are about twice the size of that...