JSA once the kid hits 7

[eFestivals]

They are being forced into "looking" for work... Like the rest of us...

and when they don't find it, they have the likes of IDS - and you - calling them workshy scum.

They can only find it if it's there. It's not there.

I agree with a lot of your "ideals"... but you try to apply them in a capitalist world... Which is f**king stupid to be frank

it certainly doesn't lead anywhere good if no one tries applying them. Instead it leads to stuff like a £880Bn robbery from you and me. You care less about that than others, cos you see the answer as robbing those 'below' you to make up your losses.

If we could change EVERYTHING, then I might agree with some things you say but we can't and the realities of the world are still their in the morning... and I have to do what I have to do to look after my family... and the lazy f**kers will do what they have to do... Until the Torys cut them off

will it be just "the lazy f**kers" that the tories cut off? Or will the majority be how you like to regard yourself - honest, hardworking (if they can get it), wanting to do the best for their family - who just happen to be 'down on their luck', to have 'hit hard times'?

[eFestivals]

I think he is saying that is where your plans would lead... I put the same amount of faith in you as a leader

And it's precisely because you'd have such great () faith in me as 'leader' that I have no wish to be one.

But all the while you support the status quo, all you'll get is the status quo. But hey-ho, you don't actually mind really.

[sifi]

When I have ever called anyone claiming JSA workshy ? You are so full of shit Neil

[eFestivals]

But that simply isn't true...

it is. How do you think you're earning more than double the average?

Each pound that goes in your pocket is one less in someone else's.

[eFestivals]

If they where honest and hardworking then they won't have any issues with looking for a job...

Then I presume you're the type who'd see cutting the lawn with nail-scissors as better than using the mower.

[sifi]

The likes of me... That would indicate someone who is like me would it not

[sifi]

I've been doing something productive. Has Oaf actually come up with these many reasons why we are going to have a load of people looking for something that isn't there yet?

[eFestivals]

I would love to be able to earn less and pay for a roof over my head... How do you propose this happens ?

cut your wants to match that lower income - like the vast majority of the rest of this in this country have to do.

C'mon - if you're as clever as you like to believe yourself to be, you can do that. It shouldn't be hard for someone as clever as you.

[sifi]

I didn't struggle last time Mr Elitist...

[sifi]

but the going rate for this house is around £1000 per month... Where are all these cheap houses for us to move into ?

[sifi]

Says Mr Contractor... How much do you earn stifi... Why isn't Neil on your case You surrendering your above average salary like he wants me to

[eFestivals]

but the going rate for this house is around £1000 per month... Where are all these cheap houses for us to move into ?

of course, there's no two bed houses round your way for around £500 a month rent, are there?

[sifi]

WOW... You clearly don't have a grasp of house prices...

£155k mortgage... 6.19% interest rate... I live in a three bedroom house... No mansion...

[eFestivals]

I need a three bedroom house in reality... I work from home...

But no, there is not enough two or three bedroom houses at £500 a month rent around here to take the influx of people you want to kick out of these houses....

that's alright, you can rent out your spare. Dave Moron said you should anyway, he's going to need lots more of them with what he's got planned.

[eFestivals]

What would you deem not silly ?

something without two extra bedrooms than you needed when you bought it. Just perhaps?

[lost]

I have a question, the prices I've seen posted here and elsewhere for child care seem quite excessive.. why isn't everyone rushing out starting child businesses? is there loads of regulation involved? as currently in my head , a big room with a few toys in and 4 or 5 kids everyday is looking like easy money

[bunique]

I have a question, the prices I've seen posted here and elsewhere for child care seem quite excessive.. why isn't everyone rushing out starting child businesses? is there loads of regulation involved? as currently in my head , a big room with a few toys in and 4 or 5 kids everyday is looking like easy money

[eFestivals]

I am playing the only game in town...

No you're not. You're playing "I put myself first, and it's only me & mine I consider with what I do". You've made that abundantly clear over years. Yet it's not the only game in town.

You are no more or less entitled to play it as anyone else (not at all in my eyes, but there you go), and the playing of it has consequences while you like to pretend that it doesn't - such as there being no jobs for millions of people. And your answer to those no jobs for those millions of people is not to cut your way-above-average wages to their benefit, but to cut their benefits.

That is what you've CHOSEN to be. Don't go pretending that you didn't have other choices.

If you don't like what you've chosen to be, then change. If you do like what you've chosen to be, don't go pretending they're not your choices.

[eFestivals]

Surely if you are planning on having a family then preparing the house for that family was a sensible thing...

We have a bedroom, two years later the baby got her bedroom after we had saved up for all the stuff the baby needs and through out and I have had a room to work from to fund it all.

You think that is silly

It's not necessarily silly from your personal point of view. It does however have consequences, consequences that f**k up others lives as much as it's brought you benefit.

[RABun]

I hope lots of people are renting out their spare rooms as i now need one

[eFestivals]

Explain how this happens...

the more that people like you buy into it, the more you confirm it as how things are and are staying.

[eFestivals]

So what is my alternative ?

reduce the take you take thru work, and by doing that free up work &/or money for others benefit.

and people like me... Where should we all live... How does it happen ?

What can we do but at the same time keep our kids in houses...

You dont know do you....

Yes I do know.

Not support pointless policies, such as making people look for jobs that we all know aren't there.

(Yes, it's an indisputable fact that they're not there, I'm sure you can do the maths: 1M - 3M = ?)

Do support policies which really do lead towards a more equal society - and accept along with that that it'll be you that loses out as a result, quite heavily.

Etc, etc, etc.

But these things can only happen if you want them to. Do you want them to?

Or are you more concerned with holding onto your ill-gotten gains that you like to pretend you've gained 'fairly'?

[eFestivals]

Our free up more money for people further up the chain ?

If I reduce my take home pay how to do I cover the cost of my home ?

Come on genius, you keep dodging the questions...

You could cut your income in half, your wife give up work, still pay your mortgage and all your bills, and still eat.

It's easily possible. You just have to want to do it more than you prefer the luxuries and that smug feeling of self-importance.

[eFestivals]

All I have ever worked for is to have a home big enough to house me and my family... To have food on the table, bills paid and maybe a holiday...

As it stands I get a bit more than that. If you want to sell me a dream where I can have these things maybe without that bit extra without taking the risks or putting the effort in I have done then I am all ears.

But you can't explain your vision... Because you don't know...

I can explain my vision. I do know.

You just don't like the consequences, because of fear, ignorance, conditioning, propaganda, and a smug sense of your own self-importance.

You don't want any fair system, you want a system that brings you privilege, and where you can believe yourself better than others because you have more. All this you continually make perfectly clear.

And on the basis of that I don't need to waste time by typing anything further. You have no interest in it.

[The Nal]

You could cut your income in half, your wife give up work, still pay your mortgage and all your bills, and still eat.

It's easily possible. You just have to want to do it more than you prefer the luxuries and that smug feeling of self-importance.