worlds fattest man c4

[jump]

To be honest it's all well and good understanding and explaining the problem but the way I see it is that he came to a cross roads more than once which should of been enough to get his act together;

There was the time he wasn't allowed to do rounds as a postie as he was too fat.

The time he was fired for stealing money.

The time he went to prison.

The time he wasn't able to move on his own anymore.

His 1st weight loss surgery.

The time his Mum died and lost his main carer/companion.

If it was me at any of those points I would of admitted I need help and tried to do something about it but this keeps coming up as if he's only doing as other people keep telling him to.

He is also blaming the NHS and is planning on suing them now.

[RABun]

To be honest it's all well and good understanding and explaining the problem but the way I see it is that he came to a cross roads more than once which should of been enough to get his act together;

There was the time he wasn't allowed to do rounds as a postie as he was too fat.

The time he was fired for stealing money.

The time he went to prison.

The time he wasn't able to move on his own anymore.

His 1st weight loss surgery.

The time his Mum died and lost his main carer/companion.

If it was me at any of those points I would of admitted I need help and tried to do something about it but this keeps coming up as if he's only doing as other people keep telling him to.

He is also blaming the NHS and is planning on suing them now.

[jump]

Apply those same statements above to an anorexic/heroin addict/alcoholic. People need to start seeing compulsive eating and morbid obesity in the same light as other mental illness and addiction.

If you have an eating disorder like anorexia or bulaemia or an addiction to drugs and alcohol, although its sometimes difficult to get the help you need there is help out there. Its not the same of obesity and food addiction. Some people manage to lose lots of weight, though its hard to get statistics on who puts it back on again. Just like some people manage to overcome other addictions. Dieting alone doesn't work unless you try and get to the fundemantal reasons why that person got therte in the first place.

Ask almost anyone who is obese if they want to lose weight and be fit and they will say yes, so why is it still such a problem? If the desire to lose it was enough everyone to get people eating less and moving more everyone would be slim and fit.

The NHS is starting to get there on offering the support people need including weight loss surgery. But it still has a long way to go, and more psychological support is needed.

Edited January 7, 2011 by jump

[feral chile]

It's not that he's really fat that bugs me it's his way of life, it amounts to being in bed and eating. I knew an obese guy from an old job easily 20 stone closer to 30 and he still led a life, he would travel to see the world to unusual countries I can't pronounce, was in a committed relationship (would of been married but was gay), worked etc.

My mate's Dad became an alcoholic when his wife died and he only got out of 2 years later when he hit rock bottom and wanted it enough something I doubt about this guy when he hit the low points.

[ampersand]

only on efestivals could this be turned round into great pity for the guy and practically rendering him blameless.

[ampersand]

the guy blamed the nhs for him costing us 100k a year as they didn't act quick enough. you lot probably agree with him!

[RABun]

only on efestivals could this be turned round into great pity for the guy and practically rendering him blameless.

[feral chile]

To be honest it's all well and good understanding and explaining the problem but the way I see it is that he came to a cross roads more than once which should of been enough to get his act together;

There was the time he wasn't allowed to do rounds as a postie as he was too fat.

The time he was fired for stealing money.

The time he went to prison.

The time he wasn't able to move on his own anymore.

His 1st weight loss surgery.

The time his Mum died and lost his main carer/companion.

If it was me at any of those points I would of admitted I need help and tried to do something about it but this keeps coming up as if he's only doing as other people keep telling him to.

He is also blaming the NHS and is planning on suing them now.

Edited January 7, 2011 by feral chile

[rachbon]

obviously he is the only person who can do anything about his health because he needs to really want to change before anyone else can help him.

i would say the same for anyone with an addiction, with any type of addiction. that person needs to really want to stop before they can go and find help from other people like the NHS or their family. so the responsibility does lie with the patient to do something about it.

even if the guy did seem like a c**t, that doesn't mean he doesn't have genuine mental issues and health problems.

[jump]

Do you think he chooses to stay in bed? he's unlikely to be able to move easily. I didn't watch this programme, but I remember seeing one years ago where they were trying to get a morbidly obese woman to exercise. All she had to do was move her arm above her head. She was panting and sweating, and in quite a lot of distress.

We take a reasonable level of fitness for granted, and can't really imagine what it's like being immobile.

Edited January 7, 2011 by jump

[jump]

I think you're confusing admitting you need help, seeking help and getting help, with that help being successful.

Edited January 7, 2011 by jump

[ampersand]

In a sense yes, he has one of those rascals (old people buggy) so he could go out to the park, local pub etc. but I doubt he (just him not general) wants it enough and at one point preferred to stay in bed than do something about it.

[feral chile]

In a sense yes, he has one of those rascals (old people buggy) so he could go out to the park, local pub etc. but I doubt he (just him not general) wants it enough and at one point preferred to stay in bed than do something about it.

Most former addicts I know/met don't make excuses and blame other people they take responsibility for it but this guy is still blaming the NHS. I remember the 1st time I ever went a festival I met this guy in his 30's and got talking about being a heroin addict and he said that he was only able to move from once he stopped blaming other people. So I don't see the point in helping him untill he actually wants it, I wouldn't give nicotine patches to someone who smokes and doesn't want to quit.

Edited January 7, 2011 by feral chile

[ampersand]

just seen on facebook that there's an article in the daily mail about this prick. he's apparently suing the nhs for his weight gain.

still feeling pity and sympathy for this c**t?

[RABun]

just seen on facebook that there's an article in the daily mail about this prick. he's apparently suing the nhs for his weight gain.

still feeling pity and sympathy for this c**t?

[ampersand]

yes

[rachbon]

just seen on facebook that there's an article in the daily mail about this prick. he's apparently suing the nhs for his weight gain.

still feeling pity and sympathy for this c**t?

[RABun]

well good for you. who cares if he takes much needed cash from the nhs who helped him.

[ampersand]

no, but being a c**t doesn't make his problems any less real or serious.

[jump]

just seen on facebook that there's an article in the daily mail about this prick. he's apparently suing the nhs for his weight gain.

still feeling pity and sympathy for this c**t?

[RABun]

i've never said they're not serious. i'm just stating the fact that it's self inflicted, and the c**t is taking it out on the nhs and taxpayer. he's a revolting human being both inside and out.

[ampersand]

Perhaps you should give us a list of all diseases and illnesses that should be exempt from NHS care then because they are "self-inflicted"?

[jump]

I don't think sympathy & understanding should automatically go hand in hand, in his case you should understand that it's not as simple as he keeps eating but I have no sympthy towards him as I still don't buy he wants to make an effort to change.

[RABun]

where did i say he should be exempted? he was rightly treated by the nhs. and is now suing them for helping him!

[feral chile]

where did i say he should be exempted? he was rightly treated by the nhs. and is now suing them for helping him!

i'm just saying he deserves no compassion for eating himself to 56 stone. if that makes me bad, f**k it.

if his reaction to his depression was to go out and kill someone, am i still to feel compassion for him? some people are too scared of offending people!

yeah, i was at work and saw it come up on my phone.

i then googled it and saw it on the express website.