No Muse?

[RichieParf]

It's not fact, it's just me saying why a band like that shouldn't exist in this day and age.

If people find some kind of life-affirming joy in their music, or it speaks to them as individuals rather than serves as nothing more than a casual fix of pop culture, that's fine, but I don't, and to this day I've never met anybody with a soul who has because most people with souls don't like Muse.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

So we can have our own opinion on the matter, we just don't have souls? I happen to like both Muse and all the punk bands you listed before (and Genesis while we're at it). You can't go around claiming your word is gospel whilst simultaenously saying its only an opinion. Muse are a band you dislike, fine, but your reasons for that are entirely subjective, so you can't go around saying that people who like Muse are in some way inferior to your all knowing sense of what is and isn't worthy of existing 'in this day and age'.

[swede]

At risk of repeating myself - a lot of my problems with Muse are based in the way they make music and how it appears to me when I see it in front of my own eyes or hear it, and the whole image I feel they have contrived for themselves. There's NO truth in what I say, just as there is no truth in what anybody says on here - it's about observation and opinions - and I base a lot of my opinions on how I perceive the band. It's not fact, it's just me saying why a band like that shouldn't exist in this day and age - and they shouldn't, because it's as if they're saying "Punk was just a dream - it never happened"

Over 30 years ago now, bands like The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Buzzcocks, The Jam, Joy Division, Suicide, The Ramones, Swans, Wire, Gang of Four, New York Dolls, Mission of Burma... they came along and they made music matter again. They gave people hope that music could be saved. When I see Muse, they might as well be standing over Joe Strummer's grave, pissing on it, and instead of a wreath of flowers they put down a copy of 'Foxtrot' by Genesis on there. Everything that was accomplished with Punk is being slowly destroyed by a band like Muse; it's absolutely spirit crushing watching a band like them arse about with as much self-indulgent righteousness as they do, and it annoys the hell out of me.

If people find some kind of life-affirming joy in their music, or it speaks to them as individuals rather than serves as nothing more than a casual fix of pop culture, that's fine, but I don't, and to this day I've never met anybody with a soul who has because most people with souls don't like Muse.

Edited January 19, 2011 by swede

[Dave The Hedgehog]

f**k me, I think someones had a bit too much caffiene

[swede]

I don't drink Red Bull but I do fuel most of my post-sleep routine in the mornings with caffeine. I grasp with red eyes at the Kenco whilst foaming at the mouth.

Would a 6 page argument erupt if I offended people by saying something bad about Red Bull?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Depends if your in the official red bull forum I suppose.

[swede]

Why would I be in a Red Bull forum if I don't drink it? It's not as if I'd drop by to wish Sebastien Vettel good luck.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

You dont like Muse but you put your overblown opinion of them in here. Hey, theres plently of bands I dont like but if a topic was started about those bands I dont think Id care enough to rip that band a new one in that topic.

[dip]

Muse need to go away for at least a couple of years.

[swede]

Over 30 years ago now, bands like The Sex Pistols, The Clash, The Buzzcocks, The Jam, Joy Division, Suicide, The Ramones, Swans, Wire, Gang of Four, New York Dolls, Mission of Burma... they came along and they made music matter again. They gave people hope that music could be saved. When I see Muse, they might as well be standing over Joe Strummer's grave, pissing on it, and instead of a wreath of flowers they put down a copy of 'Foxtrot' by Genesis on there. Everything that was accomplished with Punk is being slowly destroyed by a band like Muse; it's absolutely spirit crushing watching a band like them arse about with as much self-indulgent righteousness as they do, and it annoys the hell out of me.

Edited January 19, 2011 by swede

[Joe-]

Muse need to go away for at least a couple of years.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

how are they pissing on Joe Strummers grave

Edited January 19, 2011 by Dave The Hedgehog

[metallimuse]

I said that they might as well be pissing on his grave. What The Clash had between about 1976-ish and 1982 - nothing on earth could touch, and what they stood for goes beyond all barriers of what popular music usually allows. Every band on earth should aspire to the ideals and ambition The Clash had and all be on the same mission they were on, otherwise what's the point?

They don't necessarily have to produce the same sort of music - people should do their own thing - but it's the inspiration and spirit The Clash had that counts.

Muse have none of that, in my opinion. They deliberately take all of the worst kinds of pretentious music and shove it all into a blender, and funnily enough what they produce is an amalgamation of utter rubbish that lacks any sort of spirit; pissing on any memory of what honest music with a little bit of soul and passion stands for. They represent every out of touch band that ever existed, and it irks me beyond belief to think that one of the most popular bands in the UK can lay claim to such a title by casually ignoring the influence of something as important as Punk.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Why should they?They arent influenced by punk.That would just be hollow.They are influenced by classical,prog and straight out rock.The sound they produce is a reflection of thier influences which is honest and from the heart.

Different strokes for different folks and all that.

[darth haggis]

is kate hudson your ex or something?

[Dave The Hedgehog]

is kate hudson your ex or something?

[darth haggis]

f**k you you f**king f**k that bitch broke my f**king heart, f**ker!!!11

[Dave The Hedgehog]

it all makes so much sense now

[RichieParf]

Let's put it this way - give a band like Whitehouse or Merzbow to a fan of Muse and they won't get it. Give Muse to a fan of Whitehouse and Merzbow, and they'll probably get it but absolutely hate it.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

And yet to me it seems that you have utterly failed to 'get' Muse.

[mrtourette]

I shudder to think of the hours wasted on the well-written yet ultimately fruitless responses in this thread.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I shudder to think of the hours wasted on the well-written yet ultimately fruitless responses in this thread.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Let's put it this way - give a band like Whitehouse or Merzbow to a fan of Muse and they won't get it

[RichieParf]

I shudder to think of the hours wasted on the well-written yet ultimately fruitless responses in this thread.

[metallimuse]

I get them and despise them for the same reasons Metallimuse gets them and likes them.