R&L Headliner Tracker

[Dave The Hedgehog]

just proves two people can be at the same gig and have totally different experiences. I was at interpol couple of months back and I thought it was one of the gigs of the year and a mate said they were shit.

[thetime]

Well, at Guns N Roses I noticed and walked through 4 distinct camps of people:

1. People who went to see one of the best bands of the last 30 years play live and try and enjoy themselves not knowing what to expect

2. People who went solely because they had nothing else better to do than complain about something that hadn't even happened yet and shout "Where's Slash?!" at the top of their lungs

3. People who pissed off after Sweet Child O' Mine

4. People who didn't really give a shit about the gig but just went to see them because they might as well see the Sunday night headliner rather than go back to their tent

To me, they were astonishing and one of the highlights of my entire weekend. I asked for nothing more and I got nothing less - what people expect is one thing; what they deserve and get is another.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

hedgehog you sound pretty damn annoyed about it, never went last year so cant comment on how good or not they were.

[Dan R]

Well, at Guns N Roses I noticed and walked through 4 distinct camps of people:

1. People who went to see one of the best bands of the last 30 years play live and try and enjoy themselves not knowing what to expect

2. People who went solely because they had nothing else better to do than complain about something that hadn't even happened yet and shout "Where's Slash?!" at the top of their lungs

3. People who pissed off after Sweet Child O' Mine

4. People who didn't really give a shit about the gig but just went to see them because they might as well see the Sunday night headliner rather than go back to their tent

To me, they were astonishing and one of the highlights of my entire weekend. I asked for nothing more and I got nothing less - what people expect is one thing; what they deserve and get is another.

[harderfaster]

his voice on street of dreams at reading was f**king awful though. after what i thought was a good album i was disappointed by how badly he (didn't) hit the notes on some of the new tracks.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

What about fans who've seen and loved them at previous shows and were just completely disappointed by them and thought it was a bit of a joke?

Plus the crowd at Leeds was tiny. I was about 4 rows from the front pretty close to the centre, went to get chips as I was pretty bored, then got back to exactly the same space within a 2 minutes. There was as many people wandering around by the shops or on their way out of the arena than there was at the main stage.

[John92]

I went watching Guns N Roses last year (at leeds) as soon as pheonix had finished. When we got to the field of the main stage it was packed. As packed as i expect it was for blink-182 and libertines. However, as soon as LCD were due to come on, a lot of people left.. And as soon as they had played sweet child o mine, loads of people left.

I didn't think they were that bad, or that good, would have been better if we were closer to the stage. We were just there because we wanted someone to watch rather than go to our tents, and we knew more guns n roses songs than we did LCD or marina+the diamonds (or whoever was on in the lock up)...

A lot of people just went with the mindset that they were going to be crap, meaning that they wouldn't have enjoyed it no matter how good they were.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

A lot of people just went with the mindset that they were going to be crap, meaning that they wouldn't have enjoyed it no matter how good they were.

[mrtourette]

NME may have wanted them to be shit, but that doesn't mean that they weren't. Likewise I'm sure the argument can be made that someone who had built them up in their mind as they were a massively important band to them would interpret tham as being great whether they were or not.

In an argument of opinions nobody can be right as there aren't any facts involved, either you liked them or you didn't, either the crowd was disappointing or it wasn't. The only fact involved is what time they came on stage, maybe if we can fin that out we can really unmask NME for the lying no-good scumbags they really are.

[onemangang]

GnR were great at reading, it dosen't bother me about the lateness. for all the people who walked away, your obviously not true fans. i was going no were, an so glad i didn't - they played a massive set of new and old tunes axl's voice was blistering.when they cut the power with axl an the boys refusing to get off the stage, it just added to the theatre of the night.

even for the haters, you cant say it was boring thats for sure. roll on muse

[Dave The Hedgehog]

1. Someone who had built them up in their mind as they were a massively important band to them would interpret tham as being great whether they were or not.

2. Either the crowd was disappointing or it wasn't.

3. The only fact involved is what time they came on stage

[mrtourette]

1. To be fair I'm sure they were as important to me as most of the other people who'd turned up to see them. I had no real expectations because Guns N Roses have always been unpredictable at best and I've always understood that. I had things I would have liked to have seen and songs I would have loved to have heard, but they didn't let me down. To the contrary, I think if you wait 20 years for something, you already create barriers in your head as to how things should be, and if it's not absolutely perfect or how you imagine it should be then you end up being disappointed - which is the main reason why I cleared all hopes from my head before they took the stage.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

At the end of the day I don't really care, you're probably right but I'm trying to demonstrate how easy it is to form different opinions and how crazy it is arguing over opinions as if they were fact. This is turning into that dumb Muse thread. I know what I saw and based my opinions on that, other people who saw that at Reading have other opinions, same as at Leeds. It would be fairly simple to discredit your views as the sycophantic ravings of a deluded fan just as it is to suggest that someone with the opposite views wasn't paying attention or doesn't know what they're talking about.

Edited January 31, 2011 by Dave The Hedgehog

[rexclark]

Well, at Guns N Roses I noticed and walked through 4 distinct camps of people:

1. People who went to see one of the best bands of the last 30 years play live and try and enjoy themselves not knowing what to expect

2. People who went solely because they had nothing else better to do than complain about something that hadn't even happened yet and shout "Where's Slash?!" at the top of their lungs

3. People who pissed off after Sweet Child O' Mine

4. People who didn't really give a shit about the gig but just went to see them because they might as well see the Sunday night headliner rather than go back to their tent

To me, they were astonishing and one of the highlights of my entire weekend. I asked for nothing more and I got nothing less - what people expect is one thing; what they deserve and get is another.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Weezer aren't playing at all anymore. ):

[purplehaze81]

They were definately half an hour late at least. That graphic came on as part of the display so may well have been shown a good 15 minutes before the band came on. But as you say Hedgehog, it's slightly pedantic to argue about it. But I'm right.

As for all other arguments, I'd never seen Gn'R before and thought they were naff, it didn't win me over at all. On the other hand, RHCP I had seen before at V2001 and didn't think they were very good at all, won me over with their 2007 performance at Leeds when most other people on here are saying they were sh*te. And if I remember rightly, that performance was also bloated with ridiculous extra long instrumentals. So I guess in a way I'm contradicting myself, but it does go to show how people can form different opinions from the performances they see. It may have helped that in 2007 I was stood next to a girl I had a massive crush on at the time.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

It may have helped that in 2007 I was stood next to a girl I had a massive crush on at the time.

[purplehaze81]

At risk of being sacked, did you smash it, Jaime?

[onemangang]

the bbc were so stupid. why did they try to show gun n roeses live on bbc 2. surly they must of had a good i dear they were going to be late

[jump]

the bbc were so stupid. why did they try to show gun n roeses live on bbc 2. surly they must of had a good i dear they were going to be late

Edited February 1, 2011 by jump

[Dave The Hedgehog]

the bbc were so stupid. why did they try to show gun n roeses live on bbc 2. surly they must of had a good i dear they were going to be late

[onemangang]

pigeon dectectives have just confirmed there tour plans, i my self would love to see them at r+l this year. first, second, or third on the nme possibly?

the vaccines have aired there tour plans as well. i am expecting the hole n.m.e tour brought to a close at r+l.

[jump]

pigeon dectectives have just confirmed there tour plans, i my self would love to see them at r+l this year. first, second, or third on the nme possibly?

the vaccines have aired there tour plans as well. i am expecting the hole n.m.e tour brought to a close at r+l.