Taking to the streets on March 26th - Cuts protest

[eFestivals]

6 of us then…

It makes me laugh, or is that cry that so many people sit on here pontificating all day, spewing your 'right on' ( not you Gay Tent ) political views but can't be bothered to get off your arses to support a demonstration against this vicious attack on our public services, welfare state, state, people.

You're confusing 'support' with something else entirely. A person can support the aims of the marchers without marching themselves.

Whether a person decides to march or not is the result of many considerations - including what they feel the result of their marching might be. And that's an aspect where me and you are fully in agreement.

[Paul ™]

Neil doesn't want arrested

[eFestivals]

Still, if people can't be bothered to get off their arse to mark an 'X' in a box on polling day at their local station, are we surprised that people can't be bothered to (potentially) travel a long way to attend a rally?

Does you dreaming of WHU winning cause them to win? Or does it take something else for that reality to come about?

And here endeth the lesson.

[eFestivals]

Neil doesn't want arrested

Nope, I'm more than happy to get arrested, others aren't happy for me to get arrested. I want to be at Question Time in Bristol tomorrow - I've been asked not to attend.

Things are not always as some like to present them.

[ampersand]

Nope, I'm more than happy to get arrested, others aren't happy for me to get arrested. I want to be at Question Time in Bristol tomorrow - I've been asked not to attend.

Things are not always as some like to present them.

[bunique]

I'd love to go but I don't fancy the potential for this...

my daughter got kettled on the bridge in the freezing cold until nearly midnight, my wife nearly goty in to a fight with some of the cops when they tried to kettle her...

[5co77ie]

I'd love to go but I don't fancy the potential for this...

...with a 14 week old in tow.

[eFestivals]

Does no one (apart from a handful) really care what happens?

People care what happens - but that's as big a part of the problem as well as what the marchers want to be the solution.

Peop;le know that some will be losing their jobs. And from that, there's no less of an incentive for people to keep their heads down in the hope they'll be the ones to escape the axe as there is for them to protest.

In fact the incentive for people to keep their heads down is greater - because no matter how much we want this march to make a difference, we all know that it won't do. That's not apathy, that's a recognition of the only possible outcome.

But people who keeps their heads down ARE able to make a difference, if only for themselves.

That's all extremely sad but unfortunately very true. Dave Moron was talking bollocks when he said last week that govts should act to pacify protesters.

[Kizzie]

asked by who?

go on, do it

Edited February 9, 2011 by Kizzie

[rabid]

I'm just not convinced marches are all that effective. Anyone know of any other forms of protest being organised?

[eFestivals]

I'm just not convinced marches are all that effective.

I agree. It has to be at least protest with vandalism for it to make any difference.

Passive acceptance - which is all a march is at the end of the day - makes no one that matters sit up and take notice.

[TalkShow Bob]

There were only that many on that march because the CA got them there on the basis of lies.

It was billed as a march for countryside rights but what it really was was a march for foxhunting - something a large proportion of those marchers were against.

[TalkShow Bob]

I do not, and never have, lived in a city.

Know nothing Neil strikes again.

Your Eavis fact substantiates my opinion, and that of the CA. Not yours.

Know nothing Neil strikes again.

The facts of the matter are, that if more people realised what the aims of the CA were than actually did, more people would have attended than actually did.

[5co77ie]

there's a bit of a difference between a bit of a Glastonbury type squeeze, and being kettled by riot police. There was a moment when my daughter thought she was going to die when the police on horseback suddenly charged them... she slipped, and it was only the quick thinking of her friend who literally pulled her out of the way and out of a potential nasty incident.

she came home, frozen to the bone, and just burst into tears. She'd never experienced such awfullness. The thing she kept saying was "how can humans be so horrible to other humans"... there were girls with their heads bleeding, crying for help, and cops just saying tough shit

she came home a very differnt girl to the one who left in the morning

[brighteyes]

this. i'm far too out of touch with politics to know how the cuts affect me, let alone much worse off people. and i'm certainly not going to be spending the best part of a hunner quid to go marching.

[bunique]

He's talking about me....He'd be arrested for sure, but I'm not keeping him prisoner.

Me thinketh all you 'I can't be arsed brigade (with whatever your excuses) protesteth toooooo much.

You just can't be arsed, but are somehow ashamed (too strong a word ?) or embarassed to own up to apathy.

[bunique]

+1

And to be honest, I just don't give a shit. Protests about wars, fair enough. Protests about things as mundane as tuition fees and budget cuts, f**k no. And the tuition fees saga - when I finally decided to read up on it, it turned out the proposed changes were incredibly reasonable. It makes me think that people just like complaining about stuff. I'm happy to be ignorant on subjects as boring as this.

[TalkShow Bob]

Don't you work for a PCT? Aren't you lot being dismantled? (Not sure how it's panning out in Wales)

[Kowalski]

i'm certainly not going to be spending the best part of a hunner quid to go marching.

[bunique]

We dont have PCTs in Wales to be dismantled. The system is fairly diffrent here as health is more or less fully devolved - currently no plans to follow Englands example eather.

[Sawdusty surfer]

I'm just not convinced marches are all that effective. Anyone know of any other forms of protest being organised?

[Sawdusty surfer]

@RANT ALERT@

this government is in the process of fuc/ing up lots of people's and family's lives and livlihoods, while making the rich richer and the poor poorer. The government's election manifesto was based on half truths or lies.

So, if we object to this deciet and want to change it we can join a facebook group, or we can peacefully hold hands and sing songs and march. How much effect will that have? Will the media and hence the populace sit up and take notice? Would the vast majority of the population be aware or the tuition fee increases if our youngsters had not kicked off last year? I think not.

I was at the Poll Tax Riot in 1990. It did make a massive difference.

Roll on March 26th . I'll be there with my family. I hope it makes the headlines on all the major news channels. See you there

[KAZRIC]

+1And to be honest, I just don't give a shit. Protests about wars, fair enough. Protests about things as mundane as tuition fees and budget cuts, f**k no. And the tuition fees saga - when I finally decided to read up on it, it turned out the proposed changes were incredibly reasonable. It makes me think that people just like complaining about stuff. I'm happy to be ignorant on subjects as boring as this.

[Sawdusty surfer]

^ KAZRIC . Thank you. Excellent post.

So many people are going to have a really horrible shock.

(edit ....sorry i called you "Kazaric" )

Edited February 9, 2011 by jamesontheverge

[TalkShow Bob]

Cheers TSB. So the f**king over of the NHS is an England only thing eh? Excellent!

Edited February 10, 2011 by TalkShow Bob