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Carlisle Is in ENGLAND not Scotland


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OK, I'll take the bait. Firstly, do you think we don't pay taxes in Scotland, and secondly, do you realise how much money Westminster makes from the oil industry which is based in Scottish/International waters, if you were to look at this aspect and the money raised from the extraction of oil, you would discover that we are subsidising England rather than the other way round.

The main aim of the Scottish National Party is Independence from Westminster, the other main political parties in Scotland are against Independence. The reason for this being that they are political puppets run on strings by their London paymasters and I'm sure there is good reason that those in Westminster are keen to hold onto Scotland rather than leave her to her own devices.

Now that's just one thing but there are a myriad of reasons as to why we, in Scotland, would be better off without the shackles of Westminster.

Oh and incidentally, you've no idea how glad a lot of Scots are that Carlisle is not part of Scotland. ;):P

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OK, I'll take the bait. Firstly, do you think we don't pay taxes in Scotland, and secondly, do you realise how much money Westminster makes from the oil industry which is based in Scottish/International waters, if you were to look at this aspect and the money raised from the extraction of oil, you would discover that we are subsidising England rather than the other way round.

The main aim of the Scottish National Party is Independence from Westminster, the other main political parties in Scotland are against Independence. The reason for this being that they are political puppets run on strings by their London paymasters and I'm sure there is good reason that those in Westminster are keen to hold onto Scotland rather than leave her to her own devices.

Now that's just one thing but there are a myriad of reasons as to why we, in Scotland, would be better off without the shackles of Westminster.

Oh and incidentally, you've no idea how glad a lot of Scots are that Carlisle is not part of Scotland. ;):P

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Erm, no. I think you, and a lot of people, underestimate how much oil there may still be, hence the reluctance of Westminster parties to let us, as a nation, even have a referendum on the matter. There's far too much money to be made on the back of the oil industry.

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I think your biggest stumbling block might be that most Scots want us to carry on ruling you. [/quote}

At the moment I'll concede that point, however the tide is turning. There are many more people now who are beginning to see through that, and the fact that the Scottish Parliament has been ruled by a minority led SNP government who managed to push through over 80% of the election pledges in the term of office has done the movement no harm at all.

As for the comment that you rule us, don't make me laugh, we have had devolution since 1999, where the major issues are voted on by our Parliament, this includes Health, Policing and Education, we are quite capable of running our own affairs and Westminster know that and I think that they are scared of the consequences should it happen.

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I think the Scots will be happy with the current status quo.

They have loads of autonomy and yet the Scottish Westminster MPs can still go down to London and mess everything up for the English. Voting on issues that have a negative affect on the English.

The Scots therefore are able to attack the English from within. The English need a devolved parliament like the scots, welsh and northern irish

At the moment I'll concede that point, however the tide is turning. There are many more people now who are beginning to see through that, and the fact that the Scottish Parliament has been ruled by a minority led SNP government who managed to push through over 80% of the election pledges in the term of office has done the movement no harm at all.

As for the comment that you rule us, don't make me laugh, we have had devolution since 1999, where the major issues are voted on by our Parliament, this includes Health, Policing and Education, we are quite capable of running our own affairs and Westminster know that and I think that they are scared of the consequences should it happen.

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I think the Scots will be happy with the current status quo.

They have loads of autonomy and yet the Scottish Westminster MPs can still go down to London and mess everything up for the English. Voting on issues that have a negative affect on the English.

The Scots therefore are able to attack the English from within. The English need a devolved parliament like the scots, welsh and northern irish

At the moment I'll concede that point, however the tide is turning. There are many more people now who are beginning to see through that, and the fact that the Scottish Parliament has been ruled by a minority led SNP government who managed to push through over 80% of the election pledges in the term of office has done the movement no harm at all.

As for the comment that you rule us, don't make me laugh, we have had devolution since 1999, where the major issues are voted on by our Parliament, this includes Health, Policing and Education, we are quite capable of running our own affairs and Westminster know that and I think that they are scared of the consequences should it happen.

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I would just like to say that I have no interest in politics whatsoever but have enjoyed hugely the debate on Carlisle/Scotland - most entertaining, one of the best posts I've seen. Hope that everyone in both Scotland and England (and of course Wales) has a great time at whatever festivals they attend this year.

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