IPad to PC Connection

[grumpyhack]

I've got a family friend staying with us at present and I'm trying to connect his IPad to my PC to transfer some music between the two but so far without success. My PC won't even recognise his IPad when connected via a USB cable. The PC 'pings' when the USB cable is connected to suggest that the IPad has been recognised.but it doesn't show up as a device when I click on My computer.

All other devices that I connect to the PC are recognised, such as memory sticks and external hard drives, but not the I Pad.

[grumpyhack]

But I also suspect that I have to use wi-fi and not a USB cable. I've got ITunes on my PC but even with that running it won't recognise the IPad.

Trouble is I don't have a wi-fi on my PC.

[t8yman]

if its your friends ipad you are wasting your time, unless he is going to come round yours to sync your itunes library every time he wants new music, apps etc on it. if he doesnt have a PC, then fair enough, but your pc=your itunes=your own devices - no one elses.

[t8yman]

he can, however, setup his ipad without ANY pc, and download apps and music via the itunes store without ever connecting it to a pc.

[grumpyhack]

I was hoping to copy onto his IPad some of my collection of MP3 files so that he can take them away and keep them rather than him having to always buy and download music..

[Kowalski]

I was hoping to copy onto his IPad some of my collection of MP3 files so that he can take them away and keep them rather than him having to always buy and download music..

[Ed209]

I was hoping to copy onto his IPad some of my collection of MP3 files so that he can take them away and keep them rather than him having to always buy and download music..

[t8yman]

You can give him the mp3 files on the flash memory. He won't be able to play them though. He'll have to then transfer them onto his pc, put them on his iTunes and then sync to his iPad

[grumpyhack]

Great. All makes sense. Thanks.

[windy_miller]

And they say Apple products are supposed to be easy to use? I know loads of people who have completely lost all their music collection due to iTunes sync problems.

[eFestivals]

And they say Apple products are supposed to be easy to use? I know loads of people who have completely lost all their music collection due to iTunes sync problems.

Yup, that's a part of Apple's famous user friendliness.

[eFestivals]

You could lose the music from the device but not from your iTunes store...

you do if you buy from the store on an iPod - it happened to my step-daughter.

Tho to be fair to Apple they somehow did get it back for her, tho it was a lot of hassle at her end to get sorted (I'm not sure of the exact details, tho I am sure that it was hassle for her).

[eFestivals]

Apple mobile products are generally the most simple, intuitive things I have ever used... My 20 month old daughter can play music / view photos etc...

Their computers on the other hand are best avoided IMO. Brilliant when everything works, but soon as something goes wrong, nightmare....

everything about them is nightmarish, if something happens which has been outside the thoughts of their scenario-limited thinking designers, which is a regular occurrence I've encountered loads over 20 years. And Apple used to take the piss out of Windozes limited error handling.

Mind you, Apple don't get close to the utter stupidity of the post office which I've just encountered.

[eFestivals]

Well anything you buy with Appple now automatically becomes available within iCloud for you to download whenever you want. You can also pay for their Match service now which will back up all your music and also give you legit versions of dodgy shit you have downloaded

So any issue like this won't be there in the future.

so what you're saying is that Apple have finally got wise to their huge fuck up, but only after about 10 years of having that fucked up system.

I still don't understand how a sync to a device can damage the originals. Never seen that...

I believe it happens when you have stuff on the playing device that isn't in the system you're synching with.

That might sound like a hard thing to do, but it's really not as people download direct to their playing device nowadays.

[eFestivals]

The mobile products are designed to perform certain functionality and if you want to break out of that then you have hope some has developed an app within the frame work of all Apple restrictions...

PMSL - downloading from the iTunes store on a mobile device such as an iPod is not doing anything outside of the Apple framework.

Must the time its a bad app rather than any bug within iOS that causes things to crash. At least Apple attempt to control the quality of available apps (although there is another reason for them doing that, so they can of course control the world, hence no flash for example)

if the fault is with an app then the fault is within one of Apple's own apps.

[eFestivals]

I have a iPad, iPhone and a iMac... I am well versed at buying things direct from iTunes on the mobile device (although I try not to as its a fucking rip off)...

Never had a problem...

just because you haven't means nothing about those who have.

One thing that could happen is the catalogue iTunes file could become messed up and you would have to rebuild the library.

if that's the cause of the problem I know about then that's simply down to shoddy software products from Apple.

But I know of nothing which would cause iTunes to actually DELETE your original files. Actually, I would say people claiming this are just plain wrong. The original files will still be there on the HD.

there is not HD on an iPod, just flash memory.

Whether or not the files are still there I don't know (tho I suspect they are, because I think step-daughter retrieved the originals with Apple's help), but if they are still there then they've somehow become invisible to the software on the device that should be seeing them.

[Ed209]

Well my family all chipped in for my birthday and christmas and gave me an ipad 2, and I think they're fucking marvelous. What an amazing piece of kit. I agree with Barry, on the whole I'm a pc man, but I love apple's portable products.

Most of the complaints with Apple are because of compatibility issues with non-Apple software. The reason Apple has such a strong brand is because its so good at protecting that brand. By blocking off third party involvement they prevent the brand from being watered down. Yes, that means some things are frustrating about it, but they're a company that thrives off the strength of their brand, and they've been very successful at that. If you don't want to deal with itunes then dont buy an ipod. Its very simple.

[eFestivals]

If you don't want to deal with itunes then dont buy an ipod. Its very simple.

that's all very well, but once you have an iPod and find out that Apple products don't manage to have compatibility with Apple's own software products then you're fucked.

[t8yman]

wondered how long before the haters turned up. in my experience the only fuck ups I have seen is by inexperienced users tbh, but nothing is un recoverable so far..

keep within the perameters of apples ecosystem and nothing should go wrong.

have you seen how fucking awesome a jailbroken appletv is? i ordered one to be delivered tomorrow. (almost) free sky sports and movies? yes please!

[windy_miller]

in my experience the only fuck ups I have seen is by inexperienced users tbh

[Ed209]

Anyone recommend any good iPad games?

[t8yman]

Anyone recommend any good iPad games?

[eFestivals]

? You really haven't a clUe have you..

How are Apple at fault for a third party App ?

PMSL - how are Apple's own apps 'third party'? The fuck up I know of only involved Apple's own hardware and software.

[eFestivals]

wondered how long before the haters turned up. in my experience the only fuck ups I have seen is by inexperienced users tbh, but nothing is un recoverable so far..

keep within the perameters of apples ecosystem and nothing should go wrong.

PMSL - to an Apple nerd, fair comment about a real happening involving only Apple's own products can only be the comment of a hater.

[eFestivals]

Neil hates everything it seems...

Moans about Microsoft and Apple...

Microsoft products are known and accepted as going wrong. If they go wrong on me at an inconvenient moment, I reserve the right to moan about this.

Apple products are known no less to go wrong, but when they do the Apple nerds like to pretend they haven't or like to blame any part of the system that isn't Apple's (as proven above). I reserve the right to laugh about this.

FFS, get over yourself.