The Dirty Independence Question

[viberunner]

sorry, what "accusations"?

The only one I can remember making towards you gets proved as correct in almost every post you make.

That the SNP use Holyrood for party grandstanding.

[Comfy Bean]

This blind loyalty is really peculiar.

Indeed it is sir. Just been listening to the Waterboys as they are headlining Wickerman up my way and got an afternoon Pyramid slot I see. Perhaps we could have a Dirty Indy Question Glastonbury meet . We can stand to attention and sing along together of an afternoon in the sunshine, great tune.

In Scotland we are looking up at yellow skies but still we hear the Empire song. Seems more appropriate than ever.

Man looks up on a yellow sky

And the rain turns to rust in his eye

Rumors of his health are lies

Old England is dying

His clothes are a dirty shade of blue

And his ancient shoes worn through

He steals from me and he lies to you

Old England is dying

Still he sings an empire song

Still he keeps his navy strong

And he sticks his flag where it ill belongs

Old England is dying

[LJS]

Indeed it is sir. Just been listening to the Waterboys as they are headlining Wickerman up my way and got an afternoon Pyramid slot I see. Perhaps we could have a Dirty Indy Question Glastonbury meet . We can stand to attention and sing along together of an afternoon in the sunshine, great tune.

In Scotland we are looking up at yellow skies but still we hear the Empire song. Seems more appropriate than ever.

Man looks up on a yellow sky

And the rain turns to rust in his eye

Rumors of his health are lies

Old England is dying

His clothes are a dirty shade of blue

And his ancient shoes worn through

He steals from me and he lies to you

Old England is dying

Still he sings an empire song

Still he keeps his navy strong

And he sticks his flag where it ill belongs

Old England is dying

amazing, I was there in 86. don't remember seeing the Waterboys (but then i don't remember much!!)

[eFestivals]

Now if you have an easy answer to the problem, I'd like to hear

nationalisation.

It'll happen eventually anyway.

Everywhere.

Or we all die a horrible death.

It's one or the other.

[eFestivals]

I'm not interested in your little games of hide & seek.

then i'm not interested in your know-nothing comments.

If you don't know you're in no place to comment.

Edited June 8, 2015 by eFestivals

[eFestivals]

The SNP clearly campaigned against further cuts in UK spending.

while advocating the biggest possible cut in UK spending, and all of the bad effects that will have onto Scotland.

It would be bizarre if they didn't oppose these cuts & you would be the first to call them out for it. I really don't see what you fail to get about that.

It's bizarre that they do oppose these cuts.

They advocate Scotland self-financing which they know cannot be done without massive cuts.

The SNP call their own policies "suicide", remember?

Most bizarre at all is how you and others are daft enough to buy into their duplicitous bollocks while pretending it's something different to what they've explicitly put in their manifesto.

[eFestivals]

That the SNP use Holyrood for party grandstanding.

are you trying to suggest that they don't....?

:lol: :lol:

[eFestivals]

In Scotland we are looking up at yellow skies but still we hear the Empire song. Seems more appropriate than ever.

You're mistaken. That noise is your own wet farts.

Do you want to self fund or don't you?

Answers on a postcard to The Suicide Squad, SNP Headquarters, Scotlandshire.

[russycarps]

Indeed it is sir. Just been listening to the Waterboys as they are headlining Wickerman up my way and got an afternoon Pyramid slot I see. Perhaps we could have a Dirty Indy Question Glastonbury meet . We can stand to attention and sing along together of an afternoon in the sunshine, great tune.

In Scotland we are looking up at yellow skies but still we hear the Empire song. Seems more appropriate than ever.

Man looks up on a yellow sky

And the rain turns to rust in his eye

Rumors of his health are lies

Old England is dying

His clothes are a dirty shade of blue

And his ancient shoes worn through

He steals from me and he lies to you

Old England is dying

Still he sings an empire song

Still he keeps his navy strong

And he sticks his flag where it ill belongs

Old England is dying

almost 30 years on and still dying. That's certainly a slow death.

Meanwhile, the snp are offering scotland a very quick suicide. Oh wait, they havent got the bottle to pull the trigger have they.

Balls to the waterboys anyway, the cool kids will be at sinkane on west holts.

[eFestivals]

Meanwhile, the snp are offering scotland a very quick suicide. Oh wait, they havent got the bottle to pull the trigger have they.

This the heart of it.

Does Scotland want to be self-funding, or not?

If you're an indy supporter then the answer is yes - but you have to accept the full consequences of what that means, which is far bigger cuts than the tories will give you. Any other view is simply a wild fantasy, better known as bullshit.

Feel free to hope that an indy Scotland can be turned around to get back to the parity of lifesyle with rUK that it enjoys now, but don't try to bullshit your countrymen that it's a certainty because it's not.

After all, if getting rich was as easy as the snippers claim those snippers would already be millionaires. So why aren't they?

As far as I'm aware the only snippers who've become millionaires are the ones picking up expenses from Westminster! ... yep, the snipper MPs have their noses in the trough as deeply as anyone else - more deeply than Labour, and more deeply than tthe LibDems, as the expenses scandal brought to light!

[LJS]

while advocating the biggest possible cut in UK spending, and all of the bad effects that will have onto Scotland.

It's bizarre that they do oppose these cuts.

They advocate Scotland self-financing which they know cannot be done without massive cuts.

The SNP call their own policies "suicide", remember?

Most bizarre at all is how you and others are daft enough to buy into their duplicitous bollocks while pretending it's something different to what they've explicitly put in their manifesto.

You're not comparing like for like.

[gary1979666]

You're not comparing like for like.

LJS, just a quick check for me please. Do you accept the premise that if the Scotland were independent that there would be the need for some big cuts to public expenditure? As if not, then they whole arguement is around that, not the one Neil is waging (yes, it hangs on that, but is several steps down the line).

[russycarps]

LJS, just a quick check for me please. Do you accept the premise that if the Scotland were independent that there would be the need for some big cuts to public expenditure? As if not, then they whole arguement is around that, not the one Neil is waging (yes, it hangs on that, but is several steps down the line).

no because everyone in scotland is very happy to see their taxes rise substantially to pay for the shortfall.

didnt you know? it's a socialist utopia north of the border.

[eFestivals]

You're not comparing like for like.

True. I'm glad you've finally wised up.

Scottish indy will require much greater cuts in Scotland than the tories will give you.

Advocate indy if you like, but don't pretend your countrymen are daft enough to fall for the SNP's bullshit by YOU bullshitting them in the same way.

Edited June 8, 2015 by eFestivals

[LJS]

As far as I'm aware the only snippers who've become millionaires are the ones picking up expenses from Westminster! ... yep, the snipper MPs have their noses in the trough as deeply as anyone else - more deeply than Labour, and more deeply than tthe LibDems, as the expenses scandal brought to light!

Care to provide a source for this repeated but unsubstantiated claim?

[eFestivals]

Care to provide a source for this repeated but unsubstantiated claim?

You can google and find it yourself.

As the expenses scandal exposed, proportionally only the tories were more on the fiddle than the SNP.

[Stash]

Well she's certainly got some funny ideas anyway:

[eFestivals]

You can google and find it yourself.

As the expenses scandal exposed, proportionally only the tories were more on the fiddle than the SNP.

Have you googled it yet?

As you nationalists share so much perhaps you can use the Farage excuse, that it's Ok to do because the SNP are repatriating of that money...?

Edited June 8, 2015 by eFestivals

[LJS]

Have you googled it yet?

As you nationalists share so much perhaps you can use the Farage excuse, that it's Ok to do because the SNP are repatriating of that money...?

Yup, googled it & frankly there is lots of conflicting info out there & nothing I could find to back up your assertions. I'm sure i've just not looked in the right places & you'll be glad to help me out.

[Comfy Bean]

After all, if getting rich was as easy as the snippers claim those snippers would already be millionaires. So why aren't they?

As far as I'm aware the only snippers who've become millionaires are the ones picking up expenses from Westminster! ... yep, the snipper MPs have their noses in the trough as deeply as anyone else - more deeply than Labour, and more deeply than tthe LibDems, as the expenses scandal brought to light!

Care to provide a source for this repeated but unsubstantiated claim?

As the expenses scandal exposed, proportionally only the tories were more on the fiddle than the SNP.

I`m never sure quite who snippers are ( I`m serious ). If you mean anyone who has ever voted for the SNP then are you predicting that they are the only millionaires in Scotland ?

Or....are snippers SNP MP`s of which we used to have 6 but now loads as around half of Scotland voted them in ?

If it`s that later I don`t know how many of them are millionaires but I`d guess not that many.

On your expenses point ( that you have made previously ) is the clue in your 2nd post that contains the subtle backtrack ( highlighted ). Are we going to play a game of smoke and mirrors when you will claim that if the comfy party had 1 mp and he shamelessly over claimed by 1pence ( once ) then he would be worse than the Tories, Labour, Libs etc ?

Also, can you quote one post from anyone on the YES side on here who said that Scotland would be on easy street to great riches or anything even remotely along these lines. Anything......just one post.

[viberunner]

are you trying to suggest that they don't....?

:lol: :lol:

I'm asking you to give some evidence/reasoning to your assertion.

Instead all you have are gifs of animated smileys.

[eFestivals]

Yup, googled it & frankly there is lots of conflicting info out there & nothing I could find to back up your assertions. I'm sure i've just not looked in the right places & you'll be glad to help me out.

well, gotta say, I'm having trouble finding it - tho it was only a snippet of text within a bigger piece which gave the proportionality by party. I'm not going to be googling endlessly to find it.

What I did find is the SNP getting a 100% hit rate in the initial Telegraph revelations, tho not everyone in that initial list ended up being censured.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5297606/MPs-expenses-Full-list-of-MPs-investigated-by-the-Telegraph.html

But anyway, your source for refuting it is...? Just because it's news to you doesn't make it a lie.

Edited June 8, 2015 by eFestivals

[Comfy Bean]

Have you googled it yet?

As you nationalists share so much perhaps you can use the Farage excuse, that it's Ok to do because the SNP are repatriating of that money...?

Genuine attempt to move us forward

There is loads of data on alot of spreadsheets. I have picked the 1st one that comes up on the BBC. I have sorted the data by party in alphabetical order. This makes the SNP come out at the bottom but this is only because of the S in SNP. I have not amended the info only sorted it. The rest show a similar picture as you would reasonably imagine. Some SNP MP`s have wrongly claimed expenses. Many other spreadsheets from many other sites are available but hopefully this can take us to the punchline

Full list of MPs' expenses repayments

Sir Thomas Legg's commission has ruled on the amount that MPs must repay from their second home expenses claims.

Details have also been published of the appeals against Sir Thomas' decisions and which of them have been successful.

By clicking on the column headings below, the table may be sorted by name, constituency, party, the amount to be repaid, the amount by which the repayment was reduced on appeal or the amount still outstanding.

All figures are those released on 4 February 2010. Any amounts outstanding may have been paid back since then.

Sir Thomas did not consider any issues being looked into by the Standards Commissioner or the police, so they are not listed below.

Name Constituency Party Repayment Appealed Reduction Outstanding David Amess Southend West Con £1,100.06 No £0 Michael Ancram Devizes Con £6,282.43 Yes £0 £0 James Arbuthnot North East Hampshire Con £13,470.33 No £0 Tony Baldry Banbury Con £12,197.36 No £0 John Baron Billericay Con £8,821.10 Yes £0 £0 John Bercow Buckingham Con £978.51 No £0 Paul Beresford Mole Valley Con £1,352.02 No £0 Crispin Blunt Reigate Con £3,077.42 No £0 Graham Brady Altrincham and Sale West Con £715.00 Yes £0 £0 Julian Brazier Canterbury Con £248.49 No £0 Simon Burns Chelmsford West Con £3,305.76 No £0 John Butterfill Bournemouth West Con £2,364.13 No £0 David Cameron Witney Con £237.07 No £0 Douglas Carswell Harwich Con £2,159.00 No £0 William Cash Stone Con £15,269.33 Yes £14,840.00 £0 Christopher Chope Christchurch Con £357.86 Yes £357.86 £0 Kenneth Clarke Rushcliffe Con £1,345.00 No £0 Patrick Cormack South Staffordshire Con £2,022.00 Yes £0 £0 Stephen Crabb Preseli Pembrokeshire Con £1,639.30 No £0 David Curry Skipton and Ripon Con £1,676.48 No £0 Phillip Davies Shipley Con £232.64 Yes £232.64 £0 David Davies Monmouth Con £2,021.39 No £0 David Davis Haltemprice and Howden Con £883.71 No £0 Jonathan Djanogly Huntingdon Con £17,364.76 No £0 Stephen Dorrell Charnwood Con £1,530.16 No £0 Nadine V Dorries Mid Bedfordshire Con £1,314.37 No £1,314.37 James P Duddridge Rochford and Southend East Con £480.98 No £0 Alan Duncan Rutland and Melton Con £1,356.67 No £0 Tobias Ellwood Bournemouth East Con £940.98 No £0 Nigel Evans Ribble Valley Con £858.33 No £0 Michael Fallon Sevenoaks Con £2,000.00 No £0 Liam Fox Woodspring Con £24,878.27 No £0 Christopher Fraser South West Norfolk Con £193.55 No £0 Roger Gale North Thanet Con £2,452.47 Yes £2,452.47 £0 Edward Garnier Harborough Con £1,221.68 No £1,221.68 Nicolas Gibb Bognor Regis and Littlehampton Con £780.83 No £0 Cheryl Gillan Chesham and Amersham Con £1,884.23 No £0 Paul Goodman Wycombe Con £3,881.07 Yes £3,881.07 £0 James Gray North Wiltshire Con £1,742.91 Yes £1,418.07 £0 Chris Grayling Epsom and Ewell Con £136.59 No £0 Damian Green Ashford Con £2,102.14 No £0 John Greenway Ryedale Con £537.47 Yes £0 £0 John Gummer Suffolk Coastal Con £29,398.46 No £0 William Hague Richmond (Yorkshire) Con £601.14 No £0 Sir Alan Haselhurst Saffron Walden Con £11,679.81 No £0 David Heathcoat-Amory Wells Con £29,691.93 No £23,569.69 Charles Hendry Wealden Con £223.26 No £0 Nick Herbert Arundel and South Downs Con £988.95 No £0 Mark Hoban Fareham Con £408.94 No £0 Douglas Hogg Sleaford and North Hykeham Con £20,639.42 Yes £0 £0 Philip Hollobone Kettering Con £1,115.83 No £0 Adam Holloway Gravesham Con £1,283.73 No £0 Michael Howard Folkestone and Hythe Con £7,039.00 Yes £0 £0 Gerald Howarth Aldershot Con £1,178.00 Yes £0 £0 Michael Jack Fylde Con £1,427.74 No £0 Stewart Jackson Peterborough Con £304.10 No £0 Bernard Jenkin North Essex Con £63,250.00 Yes £27,000.00 £0 David Jones Clwyd West Con £2,624.00 No £0 Robert Key Salisbury Con £530.00 No £0 Julie Kirkbride Bromsgrove Con £31,827.26 Yes £2,584.26 £0 Greg Knight Yorkshire East Con £2,259.99 No £0 Jacqui Lait Beckenham Con £1,041.59 Yes £0 £953.92 Andrew Lansley South Cambridgeshire Con £5,162.68 No £0 Edward Leigh Gainsborough Con £6,725.94 Yes £3,613.94 £0 Oliver Letwin West Dorset Con £613.70 No £0 Julian Lewis New Forest East Con £1,068.85 Yes £0 £0 Ian Liddell-Grainger Bridgwater Con £2,496.23 Yes £2,146.23 £0 Peter Lilley Hitchin and Harpenden Con £41,057.36 Yes £41,057.36 £0 Michael Lord Central Suffolk and North Ipswich Con £5,074.48 No £5,074.48 Peter Luff Mid Worcestershire Con £2,170.34 No £0 Andrew Mackay Bracknell Con £31,193.00 Yes £0 £0 Anne Main St Albans Con £1,388.59 No £0 Humfrey Malins Woking Con £1,329.22 No £0 Anne McIntosh Vale of York Con £948.00 No £948.00 Patrick Mercer Newark Con £3,372.57 No £1,099.51 Andrew Mitchell Sutton Coldfield Con £2,673.33 No £0 David Mundell Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale and Tweeddale Con £1,300.00 No £0 Andrew Murrison Westbury Con £5,525.64 No £0 Bob Neill Bromley and Chislehurst Con £283.50 No £0 Stephen O'Brien Eddisbury Con £115.00 No £0 George Osborne Tatton Con £284.26 No £0 Richard Ottaway Croydon South Con £2,484.47 No £0 Owen Paterson North Shropshire Con £5,229.15 No £0 Eric Pickles Brentwood & Ongar Con £388.00 No £0 Mark Prisk Hertford & Stortford Con £4,125.08 No £0 Mark Pritchard The Wrekin Con £923.62 No £0 John Redwood Wokingham Con £112.00 Yes £0 £0 Richard Shepherd Aldridge-Brownhills Con £3,191.88 Yes £0 £0 Keith Simpson Mid Norfolk Con £330.61 No £330.61 Nicholas Soames Mid Sussex Con £1,345.55 No £0 Caroline Spelman Meriden Con £2,401.51 No £0 Michael Spicer West Worcestershire Con £15,109.37 Yes £0 £10,000.00 Richard Spring West Suffolk Con £510.00 No £0 Anthony Steen Totnes Con £11,211.75 Yes £0 £0 Gary Streeter South West Devon Con £3,074.38 No £0 Graham Stuart Beverley & Holderness Con £128.02 No £0 Hugo Swire East Devon Con £788.00 No £0 Ian Taylor Esher & Walton Con £178.00 No £0 Andrew Turner Isle of Wight Con £681.60 No £0 Andrew Tyrie Chichester Con £1,638.99 No £0 Ed Vaizey Wantage Con £463.42 Yes £0 £0 Shailesh Vara North West Cambridgeshire Con £174.00 No £0 Peter Viggers Gosport Con £13,464.30 Yes £218.50 £13,245.80 Ben Wallace Lancaster & Wyre Con £1,079.99 No £1,079.99 Robert Walter North Dorset Con £829.32 No £0 John Whittingdale Maldon & Chelmsford East Con £301.58 No £0 Ann Widdecombe Maidstone & The Weald Con £230.00 Yes £0 £0 David Willetts Havant Con £5,133.32 No £0 Ann Winterton Congleton Con £544.42 No £0 Nicholas Winterton Macclesfield Con £850.81 No £0 Jeremy Wright Rugby & Kenilworth Con £769.50 Yes £769.50 £0 George Young North West Hampshire Con £104.48 No £0 Timothy Paul Loughton East Worthing and Shoreham Con £1,178.88 No £0 Patrick McLoughlin West Derbyshire Con £4,058.54 No £0 Gregory Campbell East Londonderry DUP £3,673.38 No £3,673.38 Jeffrey Donaldson Lagan Valley DUP £1,858.73 No £0 William McCrea South Antrim DUP £4,450.95 No £0 Ian Paisley North Antrim DUP £1,181.94 No £0 Iris Robinson Strangford DUP £1,974.89 No £0 David Simpson Upper Bann DUP £1,482.98 No £0 Dai Davies Blaenau Gwent Ind £549.80 Yes £439.80 £0 Clare Short Birmingham Ladywood Ind £3,187.94 No £2,588.80 Bob Spink Castle Point Ind £2,051.38 No £0 Robert Wareing Liverpool West Derby Ind £3,892.00 Yes £215.86 £3,676.14 Nick Ainger Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire Lab £777.70 No £0 Robert Ainsworth Coventry North East Lab £1,526.50 No £0 Graham Allen Nottingham North Lab £3,341.74 No £0 Charlotte Atkins Staffordshire Moorlands Lab £5,434.06 No £0 Vera Baird Redcar Lab £1,279.23 Yes £1,279.23 £0 Ed Balls Normanton Lab £1,363.17 No £0 Celia Barlow Hove Lab £635.00 No £0 Margaret Beckett Derby South Lab £2,539.75 No £2,539.75 Roger Berry Kingswood Lab £1,237.77 No £0 Clive Betts Sheffield Attercliffe Lab £169.14 No £0 Hazel Blears Salford Lab £225.00 No £0 Robert Blizzard Waveney Lab £3,872.79 No £2,434.92 Kevin Brennan Cardiff West Lab £171.40 No £0 Lyn Carol Brown West Ham Lab £134.01 No £0 Russell Brown Dumfries and Galloway Lab £1,146.63 No £0 Gordon Brown Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath Lab £12,888.03 No £0 Nicholas Brown Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend Lab £697.65 No £697.65 Chris Bryant Rhondda Lab £4,439.28 No £0 Richard Burden Birmingham Northfield Lab £458.01 No £0 Andy Burnham Leigh Lab £2,841.19 No £0 Stephen Byers North Tyneside Lab £1,125.00 No £0 Liam Byrne Birmingham Hodge Hill Lab £111.84 No £0 David Cairns Inverclyde Lab £2,782.30 No £0 Ronnie Campbell Blyth Valley Lab £1,892.79 No £0 Colin Challen Morley and Rothwell Lab £9,158.00 Yes £8,795.00 £0 Ben Chapman Wirral South Lab £3,387.91 No £0 Katy Clark North Ayrshire and Arran Lab £782.89 No £0 Paul Clark Gillingham Lab £11,915.30 No £11,406.87 Charles Clarke Norwich South Lab £743.64 Yes £743.64 £0 David Clelland Tyne Bridge Lab £13,401.36 Yes £13,101.36 £0 Ann Clwyd Cynon Valley Lab £4,472.42 Yes £2,360.62 £0 Ann Coffey Stockport Lab £1,381.08 No £0 Harry Cohen Leyton and Wanstead Lab £933.38 No £0 Michael Connarty Linlithgow and East Falkirk Lab £5,181.56 No £0 Frank Cook Stockton North Lab £1,652.71 Yes £633.41 £0 Yvette Cooper Pontefract and Castleford Lab £1,363.21 No £0 David Crausby Bolton North East Lab £307.10 No £0 Mary Creagh Wakefield Lab £1,001.22 No £0 Jon Cruddas Dagenham Lab £535.36 No £0 Ann Cryer Keighley Lab £18,241.70 Yes £16,646.45 £0 John Cummings Easington Lab £180.00 No £0 Jim Cunningham Coventry South Lab £240.59 No £0 Tony Cunningham Workington Lab £2,718.02 No £0 Claire Curtis-Thomas Crosby Lab £191.12 No £0 Alistair Darling Edinburgh South West Lab £554.00 No £0 Wayne David Caerphilly Lab £12,959.69 No £0 Ian Davidson Glasgow South West Lab £1,241.39 Yes £474.47 £0 Quentin Davies Grantham and Stamford Lab £658.00 No £0 John Denham Southampton Itchen Lab £1,265.51 No £0 Parmjit Dhanda Gloucester Lab £2,208.28 No £0 Louise Ellman Liverpool Riverside Lab £1,410.15 No £0 Natascha Engel North East Derbyshire Lab £1,934.25 No £0 William Etherington Sunderland North Lab £434.71 No £0 Paul Farrelly Newcastle-under-Lyme Lab £123.93 No £0 Frank Field Birkenhead Lab £4,587.99 Yes £428.55 £0 Robert Flello Stoke-on-Trent South Lab £1,200.00 Yes £1,200.00 £0 Caroline Flint Don Valley Lab £572.00 No £0 Paul Flynn Newport West Lab £2,625.61 No £0 Barbara Follett Stevenage Lab £42,458.21 No £9,482.04 Michael Jabez Foster Hastings and Rye Lab £515.76 No £0 Michael John Foster Worcester Lab £438.71 Yes £0 £0 Hywel Francis Aberavon Lab £618.05 No £0 Mike Gapes Ilford South Lab £186.89 Yes £186.49 £0 Barry Gardiner Brent North Lab £174.17 No £0 Linda Gilroy Plymouth Sutton Lab £2,979.33 Yes £1,842.45 £0 Roger Godsiff Birmingham Sparkbrook and Small Heath Lab £2,224.30 No £2,224.30 Paul Goggins Wythenshawe and Sale East Lab £1,075.93 No £0 Nia Griffith Llanelli Lab £4,099.77 No £0 Nigel Griffiths Edinburgh South Lab £4,005.84 No £0 Andrew Gwynne Denton and Reddish Lab £3,327.56 No £0 Patrick Hall Bedford Lab £266.10 Yes £266.10 £0 Mike Hall Weaver Vale Lab £12,639.28 Yes £0 £12,639.28 Fabian Hamilton Leeds North East Lab £9,734.74 Yes £3,186.59 £0 David Hamilton Midlothian Lab £2,595.51 No £2,595.51 John Healey Wentworth Lab £2,354.35 No £0 Mark Hendrick Preston Lab £6,885.70 No £0 Stephen Hepburn Jarrow Lab £2,321.44 No £0 Stephen Hesford Wirral West Lab £4,256.91 No £0 James Hood Lanark and Hamilton East Lab £5,413.49 No £0 Geoffrey Hoon Ashfield Lab £1,151.42 No £767.66 Phil Hope Corby Lab £4,365.65 No £0 Kim Howells Pontypridd Lab £953.11 No £659.11 John Hutton Barrow and Furness Lab £568.09 No £0 Huw Irranca-Davies Ogmore Lab £2,008.19 No £257.92 Sian James Swansea East Lab £1,105.64 No £0 Brian Jenkins Tamworth Lab £484.85 No £0 Helen Jones Warrington North Lab £840.05 No £0 Martyn Jones Clwyd South Lab £310.36 Yes £310.36 £0 Lynne Jones Birmingham Selly Oak Lab £815.00 Yes £0 £815.00 Eric Joyce Falkirk Lab £8,602.56 No £8,602.56 Gerald Kaufman Manchester Gorton Lab £4,533.69 Yes £0 £0 Sally Keeble Northampton North Lab £451.45 No £0 Ann Keen Brentford and Isleworth Lab £345.00 No £0 Alan Keen Feltham and Heston Lab £345.00 No £345.00 Ruth Kelly Bolton West Lab £1,707.34 No £1,707.34 Jane Kennedy Liverpool Wavertree Lab £2,569.83 No £0 Peter Kilfoyle Liverpool Walton Lab £324.16 No £0 Jim Knight South Dorset Lab £3,451.67 No £2,185.83 Ashok Kumar Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland Lab £450.00 No £0 Tom Levitt High Peak Lab £1,189.95 No £777.95 Ivan Lewis Bury South Lab £2,449.15 No £0 Tony Lloyd Manchester Central Lab £2,210.00 No £0 Andrew Love Edmonton Lab £736.70 No £0 Andrew MacKinlay Thurrock Lab £792.34 No £0 Denis MacShane Rotherham Lab £1,507.73 Yes £0 £153.40 Khalid Mahmood Birmingham Perry Barr Lab £544.21 No £544.21 Shahid Malik Dewsbury Lab £1,340.56 No £36.14 Rob Marris Wolverhampton South West Lab £1,153.98 No £0 Gordon Marsden Blackpool South Lab £1,135.40 Yes £1,135.40 £0 Robert Marshall-Andrews Medway Lab £231.00 No £0 Christine McCafferty Calder Valley Lab £1,529.81 Yes £0 £0 Sarah McCarthy-Fry Portsmouth North Lab £134.01 No £0 James McGovern Dundee West Lab £266.54 No £0 Rosemary McKenna Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East Lab £3,008.93 No £0 Michael Meacher Oldham West and Royton Lab £447.62 No £0 Alan Meale Mansfield Lab £11,859.47 No £0 Alun Michael Cardiff South and Penarth Lab £19,169.56 No £0 Alan Milburn Darlington Lab £11,600.50 No £0 David Miliband South Shields Lab £808.34 No £0 Andrew Miller Ellesmere Port and Neston Lab £316.00 Yes £126.74 £0 Austin Mitchell Great Grimsby Lab £10,627.07 No £0 Anne Moffat East Lothian Lab £2,873.53 No £2,873.53 Madeleine Moon Bridgend Lab £599.25 No £510.29 Margaret Moran Luton South Lab £4,059.86 No £0 Jessica Morden Newport East Lab £380.55 No £0 Julie Morgan Cardiff North Lab £838.94 No £0 Kali Mountford Colne Valley Lab £1,965.79 Yes £0 £1,965.79 George Mudie Leeds East Lab £182.51 No £182.51 Christopher Mullin Sunderland South Lab £1,298.99 Yes £899.00 £0 Jim Murphy East Renfrewshire Lab £577.46 No £0 Paul Murphy Torfaen Lab £2,480.72 No £2,237.72 Denis Murphy Wansbeck Lab £1,841.84 No £1,841.84 Dan Norris Wansdyke Lab £1,730.19 Yes £0 £0 Edward O'Hara Knowsley South Lab £5,244.23 No £0 Bill Olner Nuneaton Lab £2,660.43 No £0 Sandra Osborne Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock Lab £2,612.12 No £0 Albert Owen Ynys Môn Lab £983.57 No £0 Ian Pearson Dudley South Lab £941.46 No £0 James Plaskitt Warwick & Leamington Lab £2,958.09 No £0 Gregory Pope Hyndburn Lab £166.79 No £0 Gordon Prentice Pendle Lab £2,620.95 No £0 Gwyn Prosser Dover Lab £650.00 No £0 Kenneth Purchase Wolverhampton North East Lab £1,000.12 No £1,000.12 Bill Rammell Harlow Lab £2,782.24 No £0 Andy Reed Loughborough Lab £891.48 No £891.48 John Reid Airdrie & Shotts Lab £2,731.88 No £0 Linda Riordan Halifax Lab £2,171.81 No £2,171.81 John W Robertson Glasgow North West Lab £2,975.00 No £2,975.00 Terence Rooney Bradford North Lab £297.02 No £297.02 Frank Roy Motherwell & Wishaw Lab £545.79 Yes £545.79 £0 Christine Russell City of Chester Lab £4,127.53 No £0 Joan Ryan Enfield North Lab £5,121.74 No £4,799.29 Mohammad Sarwar Glasgow Central Lab £245.95 No £0 Alison Seabeck Plymouth Devonport Lab £2,406.65 Yes £0 £794.00 Barry Sheerman Huddersfield Lab £557.21 No £245.26 James Sheridan Paisley & Renfrewshire North Lab £400.00 No £0 Alan Simpson Nottingham South Lab £4,515.89 No £4,296.17 Marsha Singh Bradford West Lab £5,026.84 No £5,026.84 Dennis Skinner Bolsover Lab £550.76 No £0 Jacqui Smith Redditch Lab £1,469.87 No £0 Angela E Smith Basildon Lab £1,428.81 No £395.81 John Smith Vale of Glamorgan Lab £683.78 No £683.78 Jack Straw Blackburn Lab £600.00 No £0 Graham Stringer Manchester Blackley Lab £146.67 No £0 Gisela Stuart Birmingham Edgbaston Lab £447.86 No £0 Gerry Sutcliffe Bradford South Lab £2,786.14 No £2,786.14 Mark Tami Alyn & Deeside Lab £2,557.69 No £0 Dari Taylor Stockton South Lab £719.06 No £0 Gareth R Thomas Harrow West Lab £1,158.52 No £0 Neil Turner Wigan Lab £6,786.08 No £0 Des Turner Brighton Kemptown Lab £4,407.66 No £4,407.66 Kitty Ussher Burnley Lab £1,271.65 Yes £0 £0 Keith Vaz Leicester East Lab £1,514.00 No £0 Joan Walley Stoke-on-Trent North Lab £1,967.11 No £0 Lynda Waltho Stourbridge Lab £134.01 No £0 Claire Ward Watford Lab £850.00 Yes £850.00 £0 Alan Whitehead Southampton Test Lab £1,723.28 No £0 Betty Williams Conwy Lab £750.25 No £750.25 Michael Wills North Swindon Lab £1,015.80 No £0 Philip Wilson Sedgefield Lab £224.92 No £0 Rosie Winterton Doncaster Central Lab £9,972.35 No £0 Michael Wood Batley & Spen Lab £1,399.83 No £0 Shaun Woodward St Helens South Lab £1,470.15 No £43.73 Phil Woolas Oldham East & Saddleworth Lab £3,530.86 Yes £2,644.70 £886.16 Iain Wright Hartlepool Lab £805.97 No £0 Derek Wyatt Sittingbourne & Sheppey Lab £3,611.50 Yes £0 £3,611.50 Gillian Merron Lincoln Lab £6,305.17 No £0 Danny Alexander Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey Lib £290.82 No £0 Alan Beith Berwick-upon-Tweed Lib £1,841.23 Yes £1,841.23 £0 Colin Breed South East Cornwall Lib £3,639.49 No £0 Annette Brooke Mid Dorset & Poole North Lib £1,538.78 No £0 Jeremy Browne Taunton Lib £17,894.24 Yes £17,894.24 £0 Malcolm Bruce Gordon Lib £622.00 No £0 Lorely Burt Solihull Lib £1,087.50 No £0 Menzies Campbell North East Fife Lib £1,490.66 No £0 Alistair Carmichael Orkney and Shetland Lib £480.78 No £480.78 Nick Clegg Sheffield Hallam Lib £910.00 No £0 Don Foster Bath Lib £4,275.74 No £4,275.74 Andrew George St Ives Lib £4,348.25 No £1,187.84 Julia Goldsworthy Falmouth and Camborne Lib £171.32 No £0 Mike Hancock Portsmouth South Lib £2,674.26 No £0 Paul Holmes Chesterfield Lib £150.00 No £0 Christopher Huhne Eastleigh Lib £1,152.05 No £0 Mark Oaten Winchester Lib £2,826.94 No £0 Lembit Opik Montgomeryshire Lib £1,064.42 Yes £909.42 £0 William Rennie Dunfermline & West Fife Lib £2,573.10 No £0 Bob Russell Colchester Lib £4,539.45 No £0 Adrian Sanders Torbay Lib £691.00 No £0 John Thurso Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross Lib £548.21 No £0 Philip Willis Harrogate & Knaresborough Lib £5,363.74 No £0 Richard Younger-Ross Teignbridge Lib £3,181.09 No £0 Tim Farron Westmorland and Lonsdale Lib £235.00 No £0 Elfyn Llwyd Meirionnydd Nant Conwy PC £1,194.60 No £0 George Galloway Bethnal Green and Bow Res £3,187.28 No £0 Edward McGrady South Down SDLP £3,854.00 No £0 Martin McGuinness Mid Ulster SF £3,000.00 No £0 Stewart Hosie Dundee East SNP £379.45 No £0 Angus MacNeil Na h-Eileanan An Iar SNP £133.00 No £0 Angus Robertson Moray SNP £1,217.00 No £0 Peter Wishart Perth & North Perthshire SNP £1,632.50 No £0

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Have you googled it yet?

Yes, outrageous items such as renting a second home in London (as it's a heck of a commute to the proper north) or £400 to put a telly in that tlat, whereas Labour were putting in multi-thousand pound TV systems, and spending 10s of thousands doing up their own homes.

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Spreadsheet messed up Here`s the link. Click " Party " to sort...........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8493634.stm?table=party&order=asc#mprepayments