Bestival 2012 Headliners

[Tom12]

Didnt elbow headline one year and they arent that well known tbh, still one of my fav bands though but thats beside the point, i think the people on these forums are more for the people that like 1980 early 1990 music. New music just dont appeal to you as much as the older stuff. What about mumford and sons? ohh wait they are from this generation...

[Tom12]

Yeah umm Foster the people have had more than one hit song mate look it up yeah. And i guess me saying they are likely to headline was a bit stupid but they can easily play or sub.

[kaosmark2]

Didnt elbow headline one year and they arent that well known tbh, still one of my fav bands though but thats beside the point, i think the people on these forums are more for the people that like 1980 early 1990 music. New music just dont appeal to you as much as the older stuff. What about mumford and sons? ohh wait they are from this generation...

[LondonTom]

Didnt elbow headline one year and they arent that well known tbh, still one of my fav bands though but thats beside the point, i think the people on these forums are more for the people that like 1980 early 1990 music. New music just dont appeal to you as much as the older stuff. What about mumford and sons? ohh wait they are from this generation...

[hazzamid11]

Elbow aren't well known? That is even more ridiculous than saying that Foster The People could headline. Last year at Reading they played during the day on the 4th stage, and now you are saying they are of the ability to grace the same position as The Cure without any new material or further success.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Didnt elbow headline one year and they arent that well known tbh, still one of my fav bands though but thats beside the point, i think the people on these forums are more for the people that like 1980 early 1990 music. New music just dont appeal to you as much as the older stuff. What about mumford and sons? ohh wait they are from this generation...

Edited February 27, 2012 by Dave The Hedgehog

[Joe-]

Four Tet and Caribou.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Can't wait for that, gonna be awesome.

[Tom12]

Part of the reason I enjoy Bestival so much is because it gives me a chance to see a lot of bands I don't know - a lot of new bands too. It's called diversity. Broadens my horizons. All festivals do it but I enjoy the way Bestival does it. You're likely to find a vast majority of newer bands at a place like Bestival than you are much older bands, but the great thing about Bestival is it does it's best to try and appeal to a broad demographic (perhaps TOO broad a demographic) by putting on both kinds of bands that appeal to both sets of audiences. Do I want to see a 'legends' set from Roky Erickson? Of course, but it'd also be nice to see The Black Angels. Am I going to see Orbital? Yes, but I'll also be going to see Four Tet and Caribou.

The Machine is 'new music' then no, I don't listen to it. But if Burial or Yuck is 'new music' then yes, I listen to it.

[Joe-]

Too right it is, and I'm actually secretly looking more forward to that than I am seeing Orbital.

[Dave The Hedgehog]

I dont really like florence to be honest but i do like Mumford, Yuck is alright and im not sure if i have heard Burial. And i do like watching any act, I have only ever been to camp bestival i enjoyed it alot and watched acts i have never heard of and enjoyed myself a lot! the only act i wouldnt want to see is Oasis. Sorry to whoever maybe offended LMAO!

[Tom12]

I don't think anybody is likely to be offended by your closed-mindedness. I mean, I'm sure there are pockets of Bestival's audience who are stuck in the 80s and 90s but speaking for myself and probably more than a handful of others on here, I can assure you I'd welcome 'new' or 'current' headliners over old/nostalgic ones any day of the week. The problem is, there aren't many that have a 'wow' factor that haven't already been at other festivals before, and so it's more novel than special to have somebody like, say, Mumford and Sons, who to be fair have been spewing out the same (and only) 12 or 13 songs they have had since 2009. I'd like to think when I pay £200 for a ticket (plus £150+ for logistics), I'm paying for something that justifies the cost. A lot of 'new' bands don't do that for me, and that's why I think a lot more people are satisfied with established acts headlining.

As for Foster the People headlining...

[Joe-]

I don't think anybody is likely to be offended by your closed-mindedness. I mean, I'm sure there are pockets of Bestival's audience who are stuck in the 80s and 90s but speaking for myself and probably more than a handful of others on here, I can assure you I'd welcome 'new' or 'current' headliners over old/nostalgic ones any day of the week. The problem is, there aren't many that have a 'wow' factor that haven't already been at other festivals before, and so it's more novel than special to have somebody like, say, Mumford and Sons, who to be fair have been spewing out the same (and only) 12 or 13 songs they have had since 2009. I'd like to think when I pay £200 for a ticket (plus £150+ for logistics), I'm paying for something that justifies the cost. A lot of 'new' bands don't do that for me, and that's why I think a lot more people are satisfied with established acts headlining.

[Joe-]

Qotsa will be awsome to, and Foo Fighters but are they a bit to big for bestival?

[rexclark]

That pretty much sums it up for me. I can't think of many newer acts that would headline and 'wow' me. Most bands I listen to formed in the 90s, even that doesn't seem old.

Edited February 27, 2012 by rexclark

[Dave The Hedgehog]

Foo's are too big IMO, QOTSA would be really good, it would give me the 'wow' factor too.

[dingbat2]

All of this is a reflection of the state of the music industry over the last 5-10 years. There have been very few new great bands, and those that had the potential never quite fulfilled their true potential. I take Kasabain as an example, after seeing them at Glasto in 2005 I genuinely thought they could be the next big band. They were immense. But they peaked with their first album, and failed to improve with their following albums imo. Now they perform at every festival there is, over and over again - everyone has seen them now and are bored with them I think. There isnt a lot new bands out there to compete for headline slots. Killers are another example of this. They seem to produce a great album then stay there so as to appeal to the masses, and regurgitate the same old stuff over and over again.

How many bands these days actually improve with later albums, very few (Elbow being the one exception). The great bands improve and develop with later albums and do not sit and cash in on their first album

Tragically I cannot see much out there at the moment that will change but I do think it is a cyclical thing, so the good old days I am sure will return again... at some point.. Hopefully. Until then we will have to make do with the 'headliners who never quite fulfilled their potential but now headline every festival there is because they are the best there is at the moment' sprinkled with a heavy dose of 'nostalgic 80s and 90s 'legends' to fill the rest of the slots and to sell the tickets'

This is only my opinion!

[smogo]

I don't think I have the answers, but it's certainly the reason why the V Festival and T in the Park lineups look so horrific (and similar). Snow Patrol? REALLY???

I might not like Bruce Springsteen or Tom Petty (I really, really don't like Bruce Springsteen or Tom Petty), but all of a sudden the Isle of Wight Festival's choice of headliners look daring and risky.

And I'm sure that whoever Rob da Bank's booked to headline alongside New Order will also look daring and risky, whoever they may be. This is the festival, after all, that's had Kraftwerk and My Bloody Valentine headlining in recent years.

Edited February 27, 2012 by smogo

[eFestivals]

This is only my opinion!

it's an opinion I've been expressing for 7 or 8 years ... and for much of that time loads of people were telling me I was off the mark and that lots of the new bands back then would end up big - when none have.

The problem is simply a lack of creativity and originality. There's been exceedingly little that's been creative and original since the early nineties.

[smogo]

There's been exceedingly little that's been creative and original since the early nineties.

[rachbon]

i think this tom guy is winding us all up.

[dingbat2]

I think that the creativity is still there to some extent. Go back to Kasabian, they were original and creative in 2004. Part of the problem is there is so much money around nowadays, so many festivals out there for bands to headline at, that bands do not need to develop any more - they can live of one or two albums for the rest of their lives. When their were fewer festivals around, these bands would have had to develop and improve over time before they were ever considered headline material. And they would not have had as made as much money from one album and the subsequent numerous headline performances.

No more 80s and 90s retro headliners please, I want 70s retro headliners. Kraftwerk please. Again

[kaosmark2]

it's an opinion I've been expressing for 7 or 8 years ... and for much of that time loads of people were telling me I was off the mark and that lots of the new bands back then would end up big - when none have.

The problem is simply a lack of creativity and originality. There's been exceedingly little that's been creative and original since the early nineties.

[chriseede]

I am struggling past Arcade Fire and a few others to think of any bands of the last 5-10 years that have truly deserved their rise to headline status on grounds of originality and creativity.

[eFestivals]

I think that the creativity is still there to some extent. Go back to Kasabian, they were original and creative in 2004.

PMSL - they weren't, they really weren't. They were at best a collage of the best of the nineties.

Part of the problem is there is so much money around nowadays, so many festivals out there for bands to headline at, that bands do not need to develop any more - they can live of one or two albums for the rest of their lives.

bands have been able to live off one or two albums for decades.

They're less able to do that now than they have been in the past. Nowadays they have to keep 'working' those albums via live performances, when in the past sales alone gave them that income.