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I actually don't know but I just assumed that the pricing of tickets and festivals was due to escalating costs and margins rather than greedier bands.

That's got to be one reason but I don't think it covers it all. A good example would be Biffy's Arena tour last year where I got a ticket for £27.50 at The O2 of all places (and I think standing was something along the lines of £35ish?). I then don't understand how it's anything but greed for other bands/acts to come along and have £50/60+ for the same venue.

Btw, I don't hold any resentment for bands having high prices because the obviously sell and at the end of the day, the money's all in live shows but I just don't understand how it all works you know?

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Yeah the ticket prices aren't really down to them. They can refuse to play (Pearl Jam or someone started doing that at some point?) but they're not going to do that now as the money is all in live shows.

There are some bands who try and get booking fees & stuff down, I think Frank Turner did that for his last tour.

Yeah that was Pearl Jam, they even named the tour the anti-ticketmaster tour or something like that.

Why don't all bands try and do that then as Frank did?

Not at all, gig prices are mostly used to cover the basic expenses like, hell, producing the tickets, and hiring staff to man the gig

I was under the apprehension that it wasn't the band who has to pay for producing the tickets but the venue themselves? Bands can take it into their own hands, like when they do ticketless gigs and what have you or if its a stadium show they pay for that then but I thought it was an agreement that venues print the tickets as a normal part (not an extra fee) of the hiring of the venue?

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I guess bands with bigger crews, more kit & stuff will naturally have to charge a high fee/ticket prices. Suppose it probably depends on the scope of a tour- if its long & visiting loads of different countries the production costs will be higher & that will have to be reflected in the ticket prices.

I'm just speculating of course, but it makes sense

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I was under the apprehension that it wasn't the band who has to pay for producing the tickets but the venue themselves? Bands can take it into their own hands, like when they do ticketless gigs and what have you or if its a stadium show they pay for that then but I thought it was an agreement that venues print the tickets as a normal part (not an extra fee) of the hiring of the venue?

No, but the bands don't make much from the tickets anyway.

The money goes;

Audience -> Vendor -> Promotor -> Venue & Band

There's 2 stops before the actual hands on the ground even get to see the money.

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That's got to be one reason but I don't think it covers it all. A good example would be Biffy's Arena tour last year where I got a ticket for £27.50 at The O2 of all places (and I think standing was something along the lines of £35ish?). I then don't understand how it's anything but greed for other bands/acts to come along and have £50/60+ for the same venue.

Btw, I don't hold any resentment for bands having high prices because the obviously sell and at the end of the day, the money's all in live shows but I just don't understand how it all works you know?

Biffy aren't travelling from another country.

They don't have a large number of touring musicians (think of how many people are on stage with Arcade Fire).

First arena tours tend to be cheaper so as to help keep regulars going despite the larger/crappier venue.

They did an extensive UK arena tour where they're making a small margin on lots of shows, as opposed to US bands who make a larger margin on fewer to get the same profit.

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Its just supply and demand, there's always limited supply of tickets, so if there is bigger demand for the artist they will put the prices up to mean only those with the most disposable income can afford it. The demand should still remain high enough for the tickets to sell out and if they've miscalculated, the tickets wont sell out because demand wasn't big enough

If there are thousands of tickets to shift and little demand they cheapen prices so that those with less interest will still go, so increasing demand.

edit- hence why bigger bands ie fleetwood mac charge far more for an arena tour than Biffy- demand is higher

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This year still seems to have a bit of a buzz amongst young people, but from the looks of things the festival has completely lost appeal to anyone over 21 and apparently isn't selling much to the local residents, so it's a difficult one to call

I think a lot of Reading's clientèle has been taken by IOW this year

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This year still seems to have a bit of a buzz amongst young people, but from the looks of things the festival has completely lost appeal to anyone over 21 and apparently isn't selling much to the local residents, so it's a difficult one to call

I think a lot of Reading's clientèle has been taken by IOW this year

IOW's awful this year. Most people I've seen ditch R&L have opted for Glasto/Werchter instead.

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This year still seems to have a bit of a buzz amongst young people, but from the looks of things the festival has completely lost appeal to anyone over 21 and apparently isn't selling much to the local residents, so it's a difficult one to call

I think a lot of Reading's clientèle has been taken by IOW this year

This is it! Everyone I know is loving the R&L line up. I know a few people that have said some negative things about it and it is nothing compared to what is on here by most people. Most people I know are going to Leeds festival. I know one person going to Download, a few going to Y Not but not many and one girl who is going to Longitude in Ireland for some reason (I think she is going to Leeds as well though). Been a positive response from young people.

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