Lineup 2014

[Dead throne]

prodigy have already headlined.

I mean reading wise

[thetime]

I mean reading wise

They have, they didnt headline leeds as guns n roses played above them.

[Gucci Piggy]

I mean reading wise

Prodigy have already headlined.

Edit: Damn you thetime.

Edited March 30, 2013 by Will-2609

[Dead throne]

Ah

[music-fan4]

Anyone got any views on whether jay-z/kanye west will headline...?

[the wonderwhy]

Anyone got any views on whether jay-z/kanye west will headline...?

Maybe one year, but not the year following Eminem.

[Mouseboy11]

Paramore's new album is bad, really bad. I really hope they don't return now.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

Maybe one year, but not the year following Eminem.

I don't think that matters, it's more to do with the fact that Kanye is releasing a solo album so will probably tour that next year & I can see Jay-Z taking some time off once Beyonce has done touring in order to spend it with his new family. Perhaps in 2015 they could be considered, though I'm not sure R&L will be the first festival to get them.

[Com Truise]

I don't think 'Watch The Throne' will ever headline a fest.. Kanye hardly does fests by himself as it is, or even tours in the UK.

Plus they'll both have solo albums out before they even think about a Watch The Throne 2, just because Eminem has played, it doesn't mean Jay and Kanye will. Eminem has a lot more cross over than both those acts. Glastonbury and V will get them long before R&L.

Although if they did headline, they alone would guarantee my ticket for sure >_>

[the wonderwhy]

I don't think that matters, it's more to do with the fact that Kanye is releasing a solo album so will probably tour that next year & I can see Jay-Z taking some time off once Beyonce has done touring in order to spend it with his new family. Perhaps in 2015 they could be considered, though I'm not sure R&L will be the first festival to get them.

True, there are of course other reasons, but I reckon they'd face a backlash if they booked two hip-hop headliners in a row, espeically when they're a lot more risky than Eminem.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

I'd also be very doubtful WTT could ever work outside.

[Com Truise]

I'd also be very doubtful WTT could ever work outside.

Hackney? that small section was amazing, although nothing compared to the show they put on in an arena

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Hackney? that small section was amazing, although nothing compared to the show they put on in an arena

That wasn't WTT. That was Jay-Z with Kanye in bits, not what I'd deem WTT. I don't think a simple Jay-Z show with Kanye making an appearance is WTT, and I don't think they'd deem it as one either. Edited March 30, 2013 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[the wonderwhy]

They've done WTT shows outside before.

I have no idea how good they were though

[Com Truise]

That wasn't WTT. That was Jay-Z with Kanye in bits, not what I'd deem WTT. I don't think a simple Jay-Z show with Kanye making an appearance is WTT, and I don't think they'd deem it as one either.

Well it was WTT because they did a section of Watch The Throne songs, they didn't do Jay-Z songs "with Kanye in bits" I said it was a small section, not a whole WTT gig. But it was still WTT, no matter how many songs they played.

[Asdaprice]

I'd be very surprised if we get another rap headliner next year, and hope to god they don't book paramore to headline. And for these reasons this thread is a downer to me

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Well it was WTT because they did a section of Watch The Throne songs, they didn't do Jay-Z songs "with Kanye in bits" I said it was a small section, not a whole WTT gig. But it was still WTT, no matter how many songs they played.

WTT isn't just Jay-Z and Kanye performing together. It's based around a very specific performance.

Jay-Z and Kanye have previously worked together, as Jay-Z and Kanye West but WTT is a seperate thing, hence the image and use of the brand created for it.

Edited March 30, 2013 by thesecretingredientiscrime

[Com Truise]

WTT isn't just Jay-Z and Kanye performing together. It's based around a very specific performance.

No WTT is Jay and Kanye's album, that they made together, that they performed together, so I think you'll find performing WTT songs, together, live, no matter how many songs they played, encompasses as a WTT performance.

I wasn't saying the whole Hackney show was WTT, I said a small section was.

I don't know what point you're trying to make, but it has no foundation.

[Asdaprice]

It's like saying them crooked vultures isn't just josh homme, Dave grohl, and John Paul jones playing together.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

No WTT is Jay and Kanye's album, that they made together, that they performed together, so I think you'll find performing WTT songs, together, live, no matter how many songs they played, encompasses as a WTT performance. .

No it doesn't. Watch The Throne isn't simply Jay-Z and Kanye performing together or releasing together, hence why they used the Watch The Throne name for the tour in particular rather than just Jay-Z and Kanye West.

The original point was that Watch The Throne wouldn't work outdoors as a concept. I was under the impression at that point it had never been done outdoors, but Matt says it has. Jay-Z and Kanye West has been done outdoors though.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

It's like saying them crooked vultures isn't just josh homme, Dave grohl, and John Paul jones playing together.

The way it would be the same is if Dave Grohl, Josh Homme and JPJ had worked together under seperate names as a trio, and then invented a whole new concept for TCV.

[the wonderwhy]

No it doesn't. Watch The Throne isn't simply Jay-Z and Kanye performing together or releasing together, hence why they used the Watch The Throne name for the tour in particular rather than just Jay-Z and Kanye West.

The original point was that Watch The Throne wouldn't work outdoors as a concept. I was under the impression at that point it had never been done outdoors, but Matt says it has. Jay-Z and Kanye West has been done outdoors though.

A majority of their Mexico gigs were outside, in stadiums. Obviously they prefer arenas, but yeah outside has been done

[music-fan4]

Going out on a limb and saying Ye will headline on his own next year, with perhaps a guest slot from Jay-Z, Ye wouldn't do V or Glasto, probably not TITP, definitely not download (although I think that would be an inspired booking), maybe IOW, maybe bestival. But I'd say reading would be the festival he would be most suited to, and I think FR could book him... he would most likely play a UK fest after his new album, hopefully

[2rare2die]

No it doesn't. Watch The Throne isn't simply Jay-Z and Kanye performing together or releasing together, hence why they used the Watch The Throne name for the tour in particular rather than just Jay-Z and Kanye West.

The original point was that Watch The Throne wouldn't work outdoors as a concept. I was under the impression at that point it had never been done outdoors, but Matt says it has. Jay-Z and Kanye West has been done outdoors though.

So if, hypothetically, Jack White played a solo set, and in the middle of it Meg came out and they played some White Stripes songs, you'd still only be watching a Jack White solo performance and not White Stripes for those songs?

[the wonderwhy]

Um, he's definitely more suited to V...