Lineup 2014

[willutalk]

I've just watched 30 Seconds To Mars' set from 2011 and it has made me think that they could headline next year. Their crowd was brilliant, not to mention the size of it. And you can say what you want about his live singing being crap and stuff, but from watching that set it is clear that Jared Leto is a great frontman in terms of talking to the crowd and getting them fired up and just going for it. He just doesn't do what a frontman is there to do; SING THE FREAKIN' SONGS. But yeah, their new album is out soon and if it is as successful as This Is War, I think they will be ready to step up as headliners.

Thirty Seconds To Mars and maybe Blur and Metallica would make pretty decent headliners...

[lightning1000]

I've just watched 30 Seconds To Mars' set from 2011 and it has made me think that they could headline next year. Their crowd was brilliant, not to mention the size of it. And you can say what you want about his live singing being crap and stuff, but from watching that set it is clear that Jared Leto is a great frontman in terms of talking to the crowd and getting them fired up and just going for it. He just doesn't do what a frontman is there to do; SING THE FREAKIN' SONGS. But yeah, their new album is out soon and if it is as successful as This Is War, I think they will be ready to step up as headliners.

Well if you'd been there you may have felt differently.

Before they came on they played a really pretentious 30 min video on the big screens of him running round hotels and streets pouting at the camera.

Then he pops up on stage dressed like Jesus in a gay club and proceeds to perform his impression of Robbie Williams, singing about 4 words in every song. The crowd was dead, nobody singing back, even when he stopped the gig saying they wouldn't start again till everyone sang, he just gave up when he still received near silence. Worst set at a Leeds ever, including the infamous rhcp 07 set (which is a close 2nd)

[Andre91]

IMO they were bloody awful and i was very bored. Although I agree with his frontman credibilities he can get the crowd going etc and yeah I think they may well be given a bump up.

I saw them at Leeds and thought they were shite too

[kev1664]

I saw them at Leeds and thought they were shite too

Was getting food near the back (leeds) and I can confirm they were shite also, already knew they would be after wasting money seeing them at their own show the previous year. Left after food to watch general fiasco on the introducing.

[Asdaprice]

a. no, they aren't

b. foos have never been referred to as punk by ANY of the members

A, yes they are. Basket case is a punk rock song. Any guitar player will confirm that. They turned stadium rock esque in 2000s, but they have enough punk rock songs. Maybe the aren't in the punk movement, but their songs follow typical punk rock style rock. It's not even questionable in terms of style.

B. Dave refers to foo fighters and nirvana as punk rock bands, in countless interviews.

Stupid debate cause I don't really care, but you're the one questioning everything. My initial point was objectively are they bad headliners? I wouldn't say so out of who's still around and available

[Dead throne]

shite, may have to avoid them now at Drownload...

[Yellow_Fellow]

A, yes they are. Basket case is a punk rock song. Any guitar player will confirm that. They turned stadium rock esque in 2000s, but they have enough punk rock songs. Maybe the aren't in the punk movement, but their songs follow typical punk rock style rock. It's not even questionable in terms of style.

It's pop punk, which isn't punk.

B. Dave refers to foo fighters and nirvana as punk rock bands, in countless interviews.

source

[Dead throne]

It's pop punk, which isn't punk.

sauce

ftfy

[dancelittleliar]

Band with a lead singer just out of rehab, on the back of three albums even core fans agree are shite

"Biggest rapper" who hasn't been good for over a decade, and mimes in live performances

Push up for yet another stadium rock band. I know they're liked on here, but they are borderline headliners so not a particularly strong booking, objectively speaking

Not seeing the strength really

Edited April 21, 2013 by dancelittleliar

[Com Truise]

"Biggest rapper" who hasn't been good for over a decade, and mimes in live performances

Nowhere did I say biggest = best. Doesn't matter if he's shit live or not. Arctics are shit live and people still want to see them.

And purely your opinion that he hasn't been good for over a decade. Recovery shifted over 10 million copies, and that was on the back of a shit album.

[Asdaprice]

It's pop punk, which isn't punk.source

Oh sorry, maybe the fact that punk was in the pop punk label affected my judgement. Like I said, their fast powerchord driven songs is a characteristic of punk rock. But I can't be assed to Go into it. And no I'm not going to find a source but he has said it numerous times. They'll be some on YouTube somewhere but I'm not going to find some to prove a point I don't even care about

Edited April 21, 2013 by Asdaprice

[Asdaprice]

Band with a lead singer just out of rehab, on the back of three albums even core fans agree are shite

"Biggest rapper" who hasn't been good for over a decade, and mimes in live performances

Push up for yet another stadium rock band. I know they're liked on here, but they are borderline headliners so not a particularly strong booking, objectively speaking

Not seeing the strength really

Glass half full, on the other hand they play arenas and stadiums, have a dedicated fan base, and have all had top 10 tracks. They are all popular and loved by many. It's time like these comments that make me wish you were the booker of such a fest and could objectively book headliners to critical appraise. Good luck.

[dancelittleliar]

Nowhere did I say biggest = best. Doesn't matter if he's shit live or not. Arctics are shit live and people still want to see them.

And purely your opinion that he hasn't been good for over a decade. Recovery shifted over 10 million copies, and that was on the back of a shit album.

What isn't subjective is that he's very firmly in the pop category - not where he was 12 years ago last time he headlined. That's a target audience that isn't a very big part of RnL's demographic. Not quite as drastic, but imagine if One Direction were booked, nobody would say that was a strong booking, despite them being ridiculously popular.

Quality live does have an impact - Muse have a better reputation than Arctics live so would shift more tickets even if their record popularity was equal.

[dancelittleliar]

Glass half full, on the other hand they play arenas and stadiums, have a dedicated fan base, and have all had top 10 tracks. They are all popular and loved by many. It's time like these comments that make me wish you were the booker of such a fest and could objectively book headliners to critical appraise. Good luck.

I'm not saying I could have booked better, I'm only going on what's there. Most headliners play arenas/ stadiums, have dedicated fan bases and have had top 10 tracks. If they weren't popular or loved by many they wouldn't be headliners. If that is your criteria, then every year has strong headliners simply by having headliners, and if so why are you even having this argument?

It is impossible to please everyone, but the priority for any booker is to please the people that are most likely to buy tickets. V Fest did this extremely successfully, as did Download. RnL booked 3 potentially risky acts, and that decreases the supposed strength of their line up. Don't see how that's hard to see

Edited April 21, 2013 by dancelittleliar

[Chinaski_]

I think the point you're missing is that they're not even a punk band, never mind one of the biggest.

Green day have never been a punk band, even on the independents they weren't really.

However since 2001 they've been a stadium rock band and nothing else.

They're labelled as punk by journalists (and themselves) who have to put a label on fucking everything, pop punk, candy pop punk etc. When really its just pop but closed minded alt music fans wouldn't buy it if they were labelled as a pop band that play loud guitars.

Hmmm.. I'd say the Lookout! stuff is punk, but after that they're just a mainstream rock band.

[the wonderwhy]

Biffy are probably the biggest headliner of the lot. Sold out arenas will relative ease & now how 3 albums that have stormed the chart.

[lharris92]

if 30stm ever headline them i'm going to be as far away from that set as possible.

pretentious twat, there was only a few fangirls who gave a shit, they should just become a boyband and fuck off forever.

worst set i've ever seen - walked away from it within 15 minutes.

videos of most sets can be deceptive, that one definitely was one of the worst performances you could imagine -

sings 4 words to wait for the crowd to sing the rest of the song but you couldn't hear a thing.

probably one of the smallest sub headliners crowds ever too.

[Asdaprice]

I'm not saying I could have booked better, I'm only going on what's there. Most headliners play arenas/ stadiums, have dedicated fan bases and have had top 10 tracks. If they weren't popular or loved by many they wouldn't be headliners. If that is your criteria, then every year has strong headliners simply by having headliners, and if so why are you even having this argument?

It is impossible to please everyone, but the priority for any booker is to please the people that are most likely to buy tickets. V Fest did this extremely successfully, as did Download. RnL booked 3 potentially risky acts, and that decreases the supposed strength of their line up. Don't see how that's hard to see

i'm glad this is your response, because thats exactly what I mean. Most fests DO a great job of getting "good" headliners every year, and its whether you like the bands/acts or not that determines if you like the festival or not.

I know you may think I was arguing with you but I was actually proving an earlier point someone made that if you look at festival headliners "objectively" - they are all good. They all do the job, and its rarely if its a step up given when the band isn't ready yet or doesnt have the back catalogue that could be determined as weak - but I dont see any of those this year at any fests

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Biffy are probably the biggest headliner of the lot. Sold out arenas will relative ease & now how 3 albums that have stormed the chart.

Yeah, definitely. I think their day will be the one to sell out if any.

[Tobieski]

Yeah, definitely. I think their day will be the one to sell out if any.

Hmmmm, I could see the Eminem day selling very, very well

[Bisque]

Next years headliners might be

Mumford (after proving themselves)

Arctic Monkeys (to cater for those who didn't get a G ticket)

The Killers (more likely)

Kings of Leon (less likely)

Stone Roses (relevant to R&L audience anymore?)

Another rapper

(with The Vaccines subbing)

just based on that they often get one or two previous years headliners from a mix TitP, Glastonbury & V.

[Bisque]

Hmmmm, I could see the Eminem day selling very, very well

I am surprised it hasn't, perhaps everyone is waiting until after exams/start of summer/after a summer holiday to commit.

[the wonderwhy]

Hmmmm, I could see the Eminem day selling very, very well

I can't.

[Tobieski]

I am surprised it hasn't, perhaps everyone is waiting until after exams/start of summer/after a summer holiday to commit.

I'd say so, do we have any idea how well the tickets are selling?

[Matt42]

Friday:

Main:

Queens Of The Stone Age

Stereophonics

Yeah Yeah Yeah's

NME:

Frank Ocean // Tyler The Creator

Saturday:

Black Sabbath

Smashing Pumpkins

Beady Eye

NME:

Bombay Bicycle Club // Ellie Goulding

Sunday:

Arctic Monkeys

The XX

Vampire Weekend

NME:

Imagine Dragons // Bastille.

Edited April 21, 2013 by Matt42