Potential/Future Headliners

[Andre91]

Dizzee, Paramore, Pendulum, The Vaccines, Bullet For My Valentine, Avenged Sevenfold, You Me At Six, The Libertines and Nickelback are all possibilities imo.

[Benj]

Does this post make any sense to anyone? No offence dude but I don't get what your saying.

[jump]

Apolgies, there is a comma missing and I completely ballsed up with a word on the second sentance! updated below-

Basically Bloc Party are miles bigger than Biffy as a whole, if not miles bigger within the demographic who attend R&L. So whilst I think both could easily headline R&L next year, on the back of well received records, Bloc Party could headline the likes of V, where as Biffy probably would not be booked.

...It makes sense to me anyway!

Edited March 16, 2012 by jump

[Benj]

Nah, on a whole Biffy are easily bigger but specificly with the R&L crowd maybe Bloc could just edge it. What people seem to forget about Bloc Party is they were starting to slip when they went away and are gonna need a solid new album where as Biffy are as strong as hell at the mo, they sell more albums, even their 5/6th singles off their last album was doing well in the chart and play bigger shows.

The arguement about Biffy not playing V doesn't make sense as they've played it a few times before even mainstage in 09 and Biffy could also play Soni, Download when Bloc couldn't and potentially has bigger reach of multiple audiences than them.

[2rare2die]

Why do you think they're easily bigger? Its certainly not an opinion I get from the outside world in the main, I am significantly older than you though, so perhaps its just an age group thing.

Bloc Party played 2nd at Reading (forever it seems) despite their last album perhaps being their weakest sales wise (not sure about this but I assume), whilst Biffy on by far their most successful commercially played 3rd

Bloc Party have not been about as a band for getting on for a couple of years now and will have not released a record in 4 years if ones not out by Reading this year, so its understandable that Biffy are mo in peoples' minds at the mo, as soon as they do, they'll be huge interest again and I suspect they'd be prettty much a cert to headline Reading (unless its uterly dung!), as I suspect will Biffy on their next record (again unless its truly shite!)

Re V, I meant headlining, not playing, I've seen Biffy Clyro there! And I'm not talking about Bloc Party headlining Sonisphere etc, Coldplay would not headline there but you would not say they were smaller than Biffy Clyro

[jump]

Why do you think they're easily bigger? Its certainly not an opinion I get from the outside world in the main, I am significantly older than you though, so perhaps its just an age group thing.

[Babyquack]

Busted to headline in the year 3000.

Apparently everyone's gunna buy there 7th album, n one of there songs is gunna go multi-platinum and out sell Michael Jackson.

You heard it here first.

[Benj]

But Metallica wouldn't headline V and they are definitely not smaller than Bloc Party, i fail to see the relevance of V Fest in your argument

[jump]

My V fest point was that it is a completely mainstream festival, with the likes of The Killers, Oasis, Snow Patrol, Rhianna, etc etc playing high up the bill and within this mainstream, Bloc Party are a bigger draw..

Metallica are a huge global band, who sell and make millions, they appeal to a very small section of musical society, I know very few people who aren't actually into that type of music who could even name one of there songs.

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[Benj]

Generally I find more young 'uns are into Bloc Party where as Biffy appeal to both

[jump]

Fair enough, I'd say of my peers (work and friends probably in the main 26-40), most would recognise Bloc Party more.

No, perfectly proving my point that the perception of a band's appeal is reflected by the demographic. 30 Seconds to mars would not play 2nd at a more mainstream festival like V or Glasto.

I agree to a certain extent, those two bands pretty much disappeared as a credible force on their 2nd and 3rd records respectively, whilst Bloc Party remained critically acclaimed drawing large crowds, their is a big appetite for their new record, there was none for those other bands.

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[Benj]

What's the connection between Bloc & Vfest? Biffy have played V more than Bloc and you made the assumpation that Bloc would headline V yet Biffy wouldn't, also since when were Bloc Party on the scale of Oasis or Rihanna?

[Benj]

Your point was that Bloc are bigger than Biffy as they subbed when Biffy played 3rd. Biffy have had more bigger slots at mainstream fests like Glasto, TITP, IOW, V than Bloc have.

I don't think you're remembering Bloc Party at their peak and not when they left as the last album was panned. Whilst there is still fans wanting to see Bloc Party again it's not like the average person is gonna go "oh my god" where as Biffy have arguebly the mainstream appeal of having singles consistently in the charts years after the album was released and playing bigger shows.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Benj

[jump]

Biffy have only played V more as Reading never stopped booking Bloc Party!

I said that they could Headline V festival, as in one day, not this year and not next unless their new record is a Coldplay type Bloc(pun intended!)buster. They deffo appeal more to the average v goer than Biffy, Biffy in my eyes are far more alternative and therefore would be seen as a hugely more risky booking in order to get in the average essex lad who attends V chelmsford, excited about them playing

It does completely depend on the bands next two records though, if Bloc Party continue down the more experimental dancey type sound, then yes perhaps their main stream appeal will fade further, if they manage to make another Silent Alarm, or a decent Weekend in the City type record, I reckon they will deffo be in a position to Headline Reading next year and then perhaps V the following year depending on exactly how well there headline shows elsewhere are received. V certainly wont take them till they've done it elsewhere

Similar I guess if Biffy make a record as good and as accessible as their last, there is no real reason why they could not be in a same position even at V, I just think they will do something more interesting than releasing an Only Revolutions mark II, that will not appeal so much to the main stream.

I guess we'll find out soon enough, I suppose we should just be grateful that two decent British Bands making interesting music are in the position where we're having this discussion!

[jump]

I seem to remember them leaving in 2010 two years after their 'panned' records release, still playing second at Reading to a HUGE crowd! If that was them on the way out, then they're even bigger than I thought!

They Headlined the other stage at Glastonbury in 09!! the Prodigy played the same slot 2 days later, hardly small fry

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[Benj]

You're saying that Biffy unlike Bloc don't have mainstream appeal yet they do otherwise they would have successfull singles and be booked for the mainstage at more mainstream festivals and the arguement you were orginally making was Bloc are bigger yet all of your arguements seem to about demographics which vary from person to person.

[kev1664]

Biffy have only played V more as Reading never stopped booking Bloc Party!

I said that they could Headline V festival, as in one day, not this year and not next unless their new record is a Coldplay type Bloc(pun intended!)buster. They deffo appeal more to the average v goer than Biffy, Biffy in my eyes are far more alternative and therefore would be seen as a hugely more risky booking in order to get in the average essex lad who attends V chelmsford, excited about them playing

It does completely depend on the bands next two records though, if Bloc Party continue down the more experimental dancey type sound, then yes perhaps their main stream appeal will fade further, if they manage to make another Silent Alarm, or a decent Weekend in the City type record, I reckon they will deffo be in a position to Headline Reading next year and then perhaps V the following year depending on exactly how well there headline shows elsewhere are received. V certainly wont take them till they've done it elsewhere

Similar I guess if Biffy make a record as good and as accessible as their last, there is no real reason why they could not be in a same position even at V, I just think they will do something more interesting than releasing an Only Revolutions mark II, that will not appeal so much to the main stream.

I guess we'll find out soon enough, I suppose we should just be grateful that two decent British Bands making interesting music are in the position where we're having this discussion!

[Benj]

Bloc Party when on hiatus in 2009 and other Glasto otherstage headliners include Iggy Pop and Flaming Lips despite being big acts it doesn't make them huge. I'm not sure why you keep making arguements based postions at fests when you've already said they don't mean anything.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Benj

[Benj]

They have. Lonely revolutions a b-sides album. I think biffys next album will be more of the same. Bordering mainstream with a heavy alternative edge.

I also reckon that the only major festival that bloc party could headline is possibly r&l atm.

I also think that Biffy are closer to top spots at titp, r&l, iow, download, Glasto than bloc party are.

[jump]

You're both seeming to forget Bloc Party have not released a record in 3 years though and not played anywhere, Biffy only released their last single about 18 months ago and have been playing all over the gaff since, if they'd not been doing anything in the same period, you'd think the same about them!

Record dependent they could both potentially headline R&L and Glastonbury in 2013/14, hopefully they both well, as it probably mean I've enjoyed both records thoroughly.

(Biffy are far more likely at Download and TITP, that is a nailed on fact)

[AcademicPistol]

Thanks for confirming my fears I wasn't sure if I was reading it wrong but the more you read it the funnier it gets, try it!

[Benj]

Biffy have also not released an album for 3 years and regardless of Bloc may have (not) done since then they haven't done anything has has now gone from Bloc are bigger to hypothetically could of been bigger.

Again you seem to be pigeoning holing Biffy as a rock act that only appeals to rock fans when they are not where as both Puzzle and Only Reveloutions have had plenty of hits.

[calsmith182]

pulled apart by horses (hopefully)

twin atlantic

mona

white lies

skrillex (if the hype continues)

the vaccines

tribes.

[Benj]

To quote my self from earlier the more you read Benj's posts the funnier they get... The 'points' he is trying to make are questionable to say the least but we know he will fight to the death to defend the claim that Bloc are bigger than Bifft which is just silly.

[kev1664]

You're both seeming to forget Bloc Party have not released a record in 3 years though and not played anywhere, Biffy only released their last single about 18 months ago and have been playing all over the gaff since, if they'd not been doing anything in the same period, you'd think the same about them!

Record dependent they could both potentially headline R&L and Glastonbury in 2013/14, hopefully they both well, as it probably mean I've enjoyed both records thoroughly.

(Biffy are far more likely at Download and TITP, that is a nailed on fact)