Football 2012-2013

[The Nal]

On a different note, anyone think its ironic that Rooney was looking to leave because he didn't think Utd were signing players who were good enough and now that good players have been signed hes lost his place in the team?

[kaosmark2]

There's one video angle that makes it look like it ranges from foul -> yellow.

There's 3 angles that make it look like yellow -> red.

Personally, I think a yellow would have been a BETTER decision, but I don't think a red was the wrong decision, just if the ref had had a clearer view, the chance to see multiple replays from different angles, etc. then he might have given a yellow.

And as pink triangle's been saying, the Madrid disallowed goal has barey been referenced, there is precedent for teams successfully defending a lead against 10-men, Mourinho got the sub timings perfect.

On a different note, anyone think its ironic that Rooney was looking to leave because he didn't think Utd were signing players who were good enough and now that good players have been signed hes lost his place in the team?

[eFestivals]

There's one video angle that makes it look like it ranges from foul -> yellow.

There's 3 angles that make it look like yellow -> red.

spot on!

Meanwhile....

Once contact has been made, which clearly there was, dangerous play rule goes out of the window.

[The Nal]

HA! Forgot about that. Very amusing.

[TheGayTent]

You claimed your opinion was based on the *exact* rules. Another example of putting words in asterisks not making you correct!

Er you did challenge the rules I quoted more than once. Until such time I posted links to them. Links that proved your idiocy.

Ah the old going off subject to bring politics into it?! A sure sign of a diversion tactic, brought out when you know you've made a twat of yourself !

For clarity, I don't take anything Cameron or any other politician (or TV presenter ) says as gospel.

Edited March 6, 2013 by TheGayTent

[strummer77]

On another note. Joe Cole's a liar. Today in an interview making excuses for him being overweight and lazy he said:

"When I joined, the guy interviewing me said 'you've joined the biggest club in the country' and reeled off the trophies they'd won," he said. ""I just said 'yeah, if you put it like that, I suppose you're right' and Liverpool used that as the headline to the interview. "I didn't want to upset anyone so I just went along with it. But obviously they're not the biggest club in the country any more."

Not here to question the validity of the big club argument, but shame the interview was videoed eh Joey?

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/video/interview/9439-joe-cole-the-first-interview

Lots of excuses and a general lack of respect today in the interview to a club that paid him a very handsome sum for him 'not to feel passionate'. Gone down a lot on my estimations.

Edited March 6, 2013 by strummer77

[TheGayTent]

Surely Joey noticed the person interviewing him wasn't a guy...?!

[eFestivals]

You claimed your opinion was based on the *exact* rules.

you're really getting desperate now, aren't you? Lie, lie, lie, lie is all you've got to defend yourself from your own wrongness.

What I said *exactly* was...

I'm working from the *exact* rules as read out of the rulke book last night - and which included nothing of what you said, that dangerous play goes out the window at first contact.

1. rules were read out on TV last night, from a rule book.

2. what i said was working exactly from them.

3. those rules didn't say what you claimed.

4. the FIFA rules you've linked to today don't say what you claimed.

Just to remind you, here's what you wrongly claimed....

Once contact has been made, which clearly there was, dangerous play rule goes out of the window.

Next up another load of lies lies lies and lies from TGT where he tries to pretend that he always knew what he was talking about, when he didn't.

[Jaybles]

On a different note, anyone think its ironic that Rooney was looking to leave because he didn't think Utd were signing players who were good enough and now that good players have been signed hes lost his place in the team?

[Essex_George]

On a different note, anyone think its ironic that Rooney was looking to leave because he didn't think Utd were signing players who were good enough and now that good players have been signed hes lost his place in the team?

[Jaybles]

What I said *exactly* was...1. rules were read out on TV last night, from a rule book.

[TheGayTent]

you're really getting desperate now, aren't you? Lie, lie, lie, lie is all you've got to defend yourself from your own wrongness.

What I said *exactly* was...1. rules were read out on TV last night, from a rule book.

2. what i said was working exactly from them.

3. those rules didn't say what you claimed.

4. the FIFA rules you've linked to today don't say what you claimed.

Just to remind you, here's what you wrongly claimed....Next up another load of lies lies lies and lies from TGT where he tries to pretend that he always knew what he was talking about, when he didn't.

Edited March 6, 2013 by TheGayTent

[TheGayTent]

The rule read out by Adrian Chiles was this.

"A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball."

I saw no signs of excessive force or brutality. Nani was certainly going for the ball too.

[strummer77]

Surely Joey noticed the person interviewing him wasn't a guy...?!

[eFestivals]

What you did was state an opinion as fact without checking.

Nope, I stated fact as fact. The fact of what Chiles read out being perhaps wrong doesn't change the fact of what he read out to opinion.

The rules that were read out didn't match the rules I quoted on dangerous play.

And what you quoted on dangerous play doesn't match the rule book either.

Which has always been the point I've made, but you've wanted to pretemnd I've been on about something else.

You've even lyingly presented half-quotes of mine to try and suck people into your lies.

Here's what you got wrong, as you keep 'forgetting' you got it wrong....

Once contact has been made, which clearly there was, dangerous play rule goes out of the window.

Next up another load of lies lies lies and lies from TGT where he tries to pretend that he always knew what he was talking about, when he didn't.

Edited March 6, 2013 by eFestivals

[TheGayTent]

No idea. But he definitely said the comments he claimed he disagreed with. Probably not being malicious, but trying to make excuses and talking too much can make you look a bit of a fool.

[eFestivals]

The rule read out by Adrian Chiles was this.

that was not all he read out.

[TheGayTent]

what you quoted on dangerous play doesn't match the rule book either.

Which has always been the point I've made, but you've wanted to pretemnd I've been on about something else.

[Jaybles]

that was not all he read out.

[hot_ice]

This was the first thing that came to mind, I cant see the actual clip because im at work, but is this incident not similar to Nani? and did not everyone scream it was a red card offence at the time?

[eFestivals]

That was all I remembered and that comes under the violent conduct section of the FIFA rules.

What else did he say as that was the only relevant piece I could find looking for what he said?

he defo read out something about dangerous play.

[eFestivals]

This was the first thing that came to mind, I cant see the actual clip because im at work, but is this incident not similar to Nani? and did not everyone scream it was a red card offence at the time?

it's not quite the same thing with Nani (if you credit him with no deliberately kicking the player at the end of the incident), but the impact on the opposition player is much the same.

I suspect that that WC incident hits the top of a ref's mind each time something like last night happens tho - and I'd guess that it has a bearing on what the ref chooses to do.

Edited March 6, 2013 by eFestivals

[Jaybles]

De Jong has his eyes on Alonso all the way into contact. Front facing contact with a boot right to his chest. Falls under the title of 'reckless' much more than Nani.

[eFestivals]

My first post in the thread about last night. Quoting word for word from the playing in a dangerous manner law.

Very good.

And here's where you got it wrong and I pointed out it was wrong but you won't accept that you were wrong, instead you've lied about stuff didn't say...

Once contact has been made, which clearly there was, dangerous play rule goes out of the window.

You got it wrong. Get over it.

[TheGayTent]

1. That clearly isn't a quote.

2. It's still correct when discussing, as I was, what offence the red card was issued for.

The actual law relating to that comment is:

If there is contact, a different offence has been committed.

Hence my earlier point about violent conduct or serious foul play.

So again, what I have said previously with regard to the laws of the game were 100% correct.

As opposed to your comments and opinion about the rules substantiating a red card for dangerous play...