T in the Park 2013

[Chiefski]

They have been promoting it as 'T20' quite a bit to be fair. Though I'm trying to stop at the Mumford abuse, do they even have that many 'tunes' from the new album? I've heard that 'I will wait' song but doesnt seem to be alot of play since then.

[mrtourette]

There will be.

[Gingo]

They have been promoting it as 'T20' quite a bit to be fair. Though I'm trying to stop at the Mumford abuse, do they even have that many 'tunes' from the new album? I've heard that 'I will wait' song but doesnt seem to be alot of play since then.

[eFestivals]

Hang on!! I'm sure the T20 logo was flashing on the big screens as we left on the Sunday last year, promoting the early bird sale

Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

long before that, people had been saying the 20th would be something special on here.

I was pointing out that they were without doubt wrong then too. And so it has proven. After all, if it was really going to happen then T would have had to turn into the sort of festival its never been and never indicted that it would be.

There's those who get sucked into the hype and can't form an accurate opinion because of it, and then there are those who are not.

Edited December 5, 2012 by eFestivals

[marky3]

no it's not.

What part of what I wrote from the facts didn't enter your brain?

[eFestivals]

They have been promoting it as 'T20' quite a bit to be fair.

It's the twentieth T. How's it wrong for them to present it as the 20rth T?

Aside from the standard promoter thing of saying something like "we've got a fantastic line-up for you" (they're never going to say "we've got a shit line-up for you", are they? ) which isn't anything different to any other year anyway, how have they said it would something special and very differernt to the norm this year?

They haven't. You're writing the publicity for T yourselves in your own heads.

(which just goes to show how kids today can't separate marketing from truth )

[KeithDelBasso]

Daft Punk wouldn't sell tickets...?

[blue6field]

So the 40th Glastonbury was just a normal year?

[eFestivals]

ridiculous

yep, it was ridiculous that when the acts for 2012 were announced that people were saying it was because they were saving massive acts for this year because it's the 20th.

T might be ridiculous, but the people who talk about it in the fantasies in their heads out-do them by a very very long way.

They have bigged this up more than other years, and that is a fact.

And people like you have bigged it up far FAR more than T have - starting long long before T 2012 had even happened.

T have only said that it's their 20th year. They have not said they would be putting on a very different event because it's their 20th year.

It's in your head, it's not in what T has said.

[eFestivals]

So the 40th Glastonbury was just a normal year?

Yep.

Why do you think it wasn't?

[mrtourette]

They have bigged this up more than other years, and that is a fact.

Edited December 5, 2012 by mrtourette

[eFestivals]

Daft Punk wouldn't sell tickets...?

the numbers needed by a headliner for an event the size of T, nope they wouldn't.

[Gingo]

the numbers needed by a headliner for an event the size of T, nope they wouldn't.

[mrtourette]

Daft Punk for NME headliners!!

[gazza_20]

Killers ...knew they wouldn't be able to resist!

Bit of a side rant, but I think it's relevant to why T line ups look so shocking. (Though its no excuse to book the fucking script)

Maybe it's just new guitar based music is fucking shit at the moment that even fans don't want to see it? TBH I like more Ri Ri songs than fecking Mumford even if I would rather listen to them in a club in a drunken stupor, all these hotly tipped new bands that are making the step up quite franky have nothing about them what so ever. They normally have one or two half decent singles ~(See The Vaccines/Mumfords and for new acts Of Monsters and Men/The Lumineers) you hear on the radio, load up spotify and boom an album full of shit.

I guess you can't blame promoters if the genre you like isn't producing anything of any quality to get you to buy tickets! They going go for fans who are buying tickets.

[KeithDelBasso]

the numbers needed by a headliner for an event the size of T, nope they wouldn't.

[blue6field]

Yep.

Why do you think it wasn't?

[cammie81]

ridiculous they showed T20 signs last year at T and included them in the emails immediately after the 2012 event when advertising tickets. They have called it T20 in numerous social media posts, whereas there was never "T19" etc beforehand.

That wasnt caused by people on this forum saying "omg no biffy this year but maybe coz they're scottish and T is 20 next year they could have joint party ".

They have bigged this up more than other years, and that is a fact.

Edited December 5, 2012 by cammie81

[eFestivals]

I disagree. People like Mumford and Sons, Rihanna, The Killers etc gig all the time. Mumford and Sons are playing in the Caird Hall in Dundee! Rihanna has a new album and tour out every 18 months. They might have a larger target audience perhaps, but I don't think the demand to see them at T is as high as it is much easier to catch on their own tours. I think people would travel great lengths to see Daft Punk play. Like Stone Roses last year.

while that's perhaps true, what you're forgetting is that if T had DP then so would other fests - so people wouldn't need to travel to T.

That aside I don't believe they're a big enough draw even if T had them as 2012 exclusive for all shows (not just festivals). While lots of people might express a like, I very much doubt that liking would have many travel particularly far to see them - after all, it didn't happen with Rockness and DP have done almost zilch since.

[texas_pedro]

while that's perhaps true, what you're forgetting is that if T had DP then so would other fests - so people wouldn't need to travel to T.

[mrtourette]

Because they have more fans.

[eFestivals]

With that logic, why would anyone travel to T to see Rihanna, Mumford and Sons and Killers? They are all playing elsewhere in the UK all year.

Oh FFS. ;lol:

What part of how popular those three acts are in comparison to DP aren't you getting?

I do know a lot of people only went to Rockness for them

I don't doubt that lots of people went to Rockness to see them.

But Rockness is about 1/3 the size of T, and it still didn't sell out that year. That's how big a draw DP are.

[texas_pedro]

Oh FFS. ;lol:

What part of how popular those three acts are in comparison to DP aren't you getting?

I don't doubt that lots of people went to Rockness to see them.

But Rockness is about 1/3 the size of T, and it still didn't sell out that year. That's how big a draw DP are.

Edited December 5, 2012 by texas_pedro

[eFestivals]

Even if Daft Punk were playing in every festival in England, it wouldn't stop the market in Scotland for people swayed by Daft Punk.

Absolutely true.

The point I am making and which doesn't appear to be hitting home is that the market for DP is small in comparison to the likes of Killers, Rihanna, and Mumfords.

Point taken about Daft Punk/Rockness- but they were possibly worth the money as Rockness would have even less sales if they hadn't played (or alternatively not worth the money as they would have sold as many tickets without them). But as I well know, it is impossible to know otherwise.

I'm not trying to criticise DP as a booking, I am criticising the idea of DP being booked as a headliner for T. It's laughable, because they simply wouldn't shift the tickets.

[Gingo]

Them and Bruce Sprinsteen to co-headline NME?