T in the Park 2013

[Paul ™]

I didn't expect them to be, and is Rihanna or The killers not even festival exclusives? If not I'd guess The killers for IOW

Edited December 5, 2012 by Paul ™

[eFestivals]

the Melvin Benn book of festival promotion

I bet that's a riveting read.

[Gingo]

Exclusives are one thing that TITP or RN havn't really went for in the past, probably because they have some sort of agreement between each other not to have the same acts and theres not really a point boasting about scottish exclusives

[marky3]

Except they haven't, oh and they have done those surveys for a few years now.

Definetely a case of peoples expectations that the 20th year would be any different to previous years.

Actually having a search online for any quotes Geoff Ellis has done since this year's TITP, the only thing relevant is

So even Geoff isn't bigging it up and all he is saying is that the fans are expecting it to be extra special which in fact it won't be apart from using the whole T20 thing as a marketing ploy to make people think it will be special.

[Deeps]

Yeah i get that. But personally for me the headliners aren't the be all and end all of the festival. I think most years i've been i've only seen 1 main stage headliner. I'm pretty happy with the Killers. I like Mumford but not a fan of them as a headliner and Rihanna, well i'm not interested in seeing her but there is no question that she is huge at the minute.

I'm hoping for some good NME/Tuts headliners. Do people think Editors could headline NME?

[eFestivals]

Fair enough, Geoff or others haven't said things as black and white as "we will try and out do ourselves as it is T20" but they have definitely suggested that this will be a special year due to that fact.

marketing is all about suggesting things which are not true.

Consider yourself marketed at, and not being able to recognise it for it is.

[theampersanddevil]

Exclusives are one thing that TITP or RN havn't really went for in the past, probably because they have some sort of agreement between each other not to have the same acts and theres not really a point boasting about scottish exclusives

[Red Day]

marketing is all about suggesting things which are not true.

Consider yourself marketed at, and not being able to recognise it for it is.

[Red Day]

You would be surprised. Just because you haven't heard about them doesn't mean they don't exist. The exclusive thing really is only worthy of boasting for the bigger acts but trust me, it exists at a way lower level than the killers.

[gazza_20]

Do you mean away from all festivals or just R&L and V specifically? If they were purely exclusive to T, I think they will have milked the bollocks off that by now!

[Gingo]

You would be surprised. Just because you haven't heard about them doesn't mean they don't exist. The exclusive thing really is only worthy of boasting for the bigger acts but trust me, it exists at a way lower level than the killers.

[cobaltstargazer]

I think this is a better format for this site for T discussion, still bickering and what not over words lol

[gazza_20]

so who are our bets for the subs and NME headers?

[Deeps]

so who are our bets for the subs and NME headers?

[gazza_20]

Biffy under The Killers? Would be surprised if they weren't there at all given they've got new material out.

[harryomatic]

Subs - The Script, The Black Keys and not sure who else

NME - Biffy, Plan B and Prodigy.

[blue6field]

Heard there will be a mini announcement tomorrow, not the subs etc

[Red Day]

Heard there will be a mini announcement tomorrow, not the subs etc

[Paul ™]

You're info is very good and bang on with R &K. Will it be reality TV star or Radio 1 playlist tomorrow.

[Wanderer1995]

I think some of you are being as coy as the marketing when discussing the 20th Anniversary of T in the Park. For the 10th anniversary of T, DF added a new stage, the X-Tent (X for 10, Roman numerals fans). Personally, I think the gig had expanded to the point were another stage was needed/justified and the number of years was of no relevance, but DF associated this new venue with celebrating a decade of the event. For King Tut's (the pub) 20th Anniversary, DF booked Manic Street Preachers, Paulo Nuttini and others to play a 300 capacity venue. It was advertised and reported as a 20th anniversary celebration. This year, DF change the marketing for T from using the year (T2011, T2012, etc) to T20, drawing attention to the number of years the festival has been running for. DF knew what they were doing, planting an idea which fans could for spin for themselves and be encouraged to buy tickets early. They are promoters and they promoted their product and they did it well, but it's disingenuous to argue that a 20th celebration was a delusion that they played no part in. I'm sure some people have learned a lesson from it. Others won't have, so we can have the same conversation next year again when the complaints begin anew.

With hindsight, the T20 advert almost seems ominous. It invites us to "Experience the 20th Year of T in the Park". Not celebrate or commemorate or even enjoy, just "experience". A very neutral word. Certainly no promises there.

Sorry, back to predictions for the undercard. I think they will book The XX to headline the XX-Tent.

[craig94]

Im actually thinking about previous T's and that sonisphere is back this year which means we may get some of their acts as we have in previous years and

Heard there will be a mini announcement tomorrow, not the subs etc

[craig94]

on the basis of subs im thinking Biffy headlining the NME stage against Mumford and sons on the friday.cant think of anyone else act wise besides Paramore, The Gaslight Anthem, 30 seconds to mars, Owl City, bruno mars and bloc party

[Chiefski]

very rough guess

Mumford and Sons

Paulo Nutini

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The Chemical Brothers

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Editors

Rihanna

Paramore

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The Black Keys

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Justice

The Killers

Biffy Clyro

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The Prodigy

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The XX

Edited December 5, 2012 by Chiefski

[devilman]

Im actually thinking about previous T's and that sonisphere is back this year which means we may get some of their acts as we have in previous years and

[blue6field]

I thought they might have waited till the X-Factor winner was announced

*then book the 3rd place contestant*