Films

[nightcrawler13]

just watched the new Spiderman, though they left out 'with great power comes great responsibility', I still liked it quite a bit

Garfield is a great spiderman, Emma Stone does what she does best (making real girls look irrational and boring) and it was just a really fun film

One thing that blew my mind.....

Irrfan Khan mentions Peter'd dad Richard Parker, he also plays Pi in Life of Pi who talks about the tiger Richard Parker

[metallimuse]

Watched 'Perks Of Being A Wallflower' yesterday,really good film I thought although the trailer seems to suggest its about the bird from Harry Potter when she's only a supporting character.

Got 'Killing Them Softly' & 'Seven Psychopaths' tonight.

[Purple Monkey]

And another thing...

Where was the rock? AC/DC et al really added to the first two films, the music in this one was pretty poor IMHO, score included. It lacked swagger.

I thought it was just fun. Hearring Eiffel 65 at the very start was surreal and funny and totally gave it a sense of time and immediately made it apparent that this was going to be a bit of a different ride.

I thought the end credits music in Iron Man 3 rocked. It has more swagger than anything, sounded like an amped up version of an imaginary 70's Iron Man TV theme, loved it. It's a proper Iron Man theme.

[G-Stud]

Just back from Star Trek. Goddamn it's awesome. Benedict Cumberbatch owns it!

[Purple Monkey]

Yeah went to see Star Trek 2 last night too. Loved it - better than the first in every way, a great sequel.

Star Wars is in safe hands.

[luckysalt]

it's not the original, let's put it that way

it's definitely not the 'scariest movie you will ever experience', however it does have awesome gore, a couple good scares, some really good set pieces, lots of nods to the original and the whole cinema laughed a fair few times so I would say it is worth a watch

went to Odeon Flashback last night and saw Fear & Loathing In Las Vegas on original film, was great

I watched Evil Dead and thought it was awful. Watched the original a few days before it and its so much better.

Just wondering, you can spoiler this but what parts did you laugh at? Cus I think it has no humour unlike ED2. I also I didn't care for the characters at all, they were just annoying.

[Spindles]

I have this week off work and am going to go to see star trek 2 with my son at some point. Cannot wait, have been trying to avoid seeing trailers/clips for fear of spoilers.

[nightcrawler13]

I watched Evil Dead and thought it was awful. Watched the original a few days before it and its so much better.

Just wondering, you can spoiler this but what parts did you laugh at? Cus I think it has no humour unlike ED2. I also I didn't care for the characters at all, they were just annoying.

to be honest, forget what i said, the characters did annoy me on the whole and i've forgotten most of it so it was clearly a forgettable film!

The bits that still stand out in my head are

"everything will be all right" "dude, she just cut off her fucking arm" (I laughed a lot at the time) and the very end when they shove the chainsaw down her throat and 3000 litres of blood shoot out

In the last week I've watched The Quick and The Dead, Darkman and The Gift... I've come to the conclusion that Sam Raimi is essentially Michael Bay, he likes bad acting and explosions, he directs very good actors to act in a completely non realistic manner that grates on you so that it's memorable, but because it's so bad it's funny. I have the same feeling towards the Transformers movies that I have towards Sam Raimi films

I don't know if that means Sam Raimi is not good as people say he is or Michael Bay is better than people give him credit for, but there we are

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to be honest, forget what i said, the characters did annoy me on the whole and i've forgotten most of it so it was clearly a forgettable film!

The bits that still stand out in my head are

"everything will be all right" "dude, she just cut off her fucking arm" (I laughed a lot at the time) and the very end when they shove the chainsaw down her throat and 3000 litres of blood shoot out

In the last week I've watched The Quick and The Dead, Darkman and The Gift... I've come to the conclusion that Sam Raimi is essentially Michael Bay, he likes bad acting and explosions, he directs very good actors to act in a completely non realistic manner that grates on you so that it's memorable, but because it's so bad it's funny. I have the same feeling towards the Transformers movies that I have towards Sam Raimi films

I don't know if that means Sam Raimi is not good as people say he is or Michael Bay is better than people give him credit for, but there we are

I really disagree with that, if you're watching films like Evil Dead and Darkman than of course you're not gonna get a realistic preformance as they aren't relastic films and are throw backs to b-movies unlike Micheal Bay who makes big budget blockbusters. A Simple Plan went down the serious route and you made no mention of his trademark use of the camera either.

[nightcrawler13]

I really disagree with that, if you're watching films like Evil Dead and Darkman than of course you're not gonna get a realistic preformance as they aren't relastic films and are throw backs to b-movies unlike Micheal Bay who makes big budget blockbusters. A Simple Plan went down the serious route and you made no mention of his trademark use of the camera either.

Well I've seen 11 Raimi films

The Quick and the Dead

Evil Dead

Evil Dead 2

Army of Darkness

Darkman

The Gift

Spider-Man

Spider-Man 2

Spider-Man 3

Drag Me To Hell

Oz The Great And Powerful

I enjoyed them, but only because I knew what I was looking for or because his style suits the genre (comicbooks, fantasy, horror), my German housemate who has never seen a Raimi film until two weeks ago, but has now seen Evil Dead, TQatD, Darkman and The Gift described them as "movies that pretty much suck but have a charm I can't quite describe"

the acting is unrealistic, the dialogue is bad, the effects are bad, there is over the top violence and explosions at random points

Now does that summary relate to Raimi or Bay? Because it seems to apply to both quite well

I've never seen A Simple Plan, so I can't talk about that, and I'm not saying in any way that Raimi is a BAD director, I love his films! I'm just saying that the things he does that people love, are some of the same things that people hate Bay for

I just find it interesting that the same traits can create love for a director or hate for a director

[Purple Monkey]

Well I've seen 11 Raimi films

The Quick and the Dead

Evil Dead

Evil Dead 2

Army of Darkness

Darkman

The Gift

Spider-Man

Spider-Man 2

Spider-Man 3

Drag Me To Hell

Oz The Great And Powerful

I enjoyed them, but only because I knew what I was looking for or because his style suits the genre (comicbooks, fantasy, horror), my German housemate who has never seen a Raimi film until two weeks ago, but has now seen Evil Dead, TQatD, Darkman and The Gift described them as "movies that pretty much suck but have a charm I can't quite describe"

the acting is unrealistic, the dialogue is bad, the effects are bad, there is over the top violence and explosions at random points

Now does that summary relate to Raimi or Bay? Because it seems to apply to both quite well

I've never seen A Simple Plan, so I can't talk about that, and I'm not saying in any way that Raimi is a BAD director, I love his films! I'm just saying that the things he does that people love, are some of the same things that people hate Bay for

I just find it interesting that the same traits can create love for a director or hate for a director

I get what you're saying, but Sam Raimi is far superior. You get a sense of childish playfulness, a bit like Tim Burton. A sense of benign mischief but with a real emotional maturity bubbling underneath. It's hard to describe, but their films have layers, even their worst ones.

I don't get that from Michael Bay at all. He's just a man child with a pornographic mindset. Every film he's done is incredibly shallow, what you see is ALL you get. Porn, nothing more.

Edited May 13, 2013 by Purple Monkey

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Well I've seen 11 Raimi films

The Quick and the Dead

Evil Dead

Evil Dead 2

Army of Darkness

Darkman

The Gift

Spider-Man

Spider-Man 2

Spider-Man 3

Drag Me To Hell

Oz The Great And Powerful

I enjoyed them, but only because I knew what I was looking for or because his style suits the genre (comicbooks, fantasy, horror), my German housemate who has never seen a Raimi film until two weeks ago, but has now seen Evil Dead, TQatD, Darkman and The Gift described them as "movies that pretty much suck but have a charm I can't quite describe"

the acting is unrealistic, the dialogue is bad, the effects are bad, there is over the top violence and explosions at random points

Now does that summary relate to Raimi or Bay? Because it seems to apply to both quite well

I've never seen A Simple Plan, so I can't talk about that, and I'm not saying in any way that Raimi is a BAD director, I love his films! I'm just saying that the things he does that people love, are some of the same things that people hate Bay for

I just find it interesting that the same traits can create love for a director or hate for a director

You're not comparing like for like, one is cult/B-movie director the other is a blockbuster director so the traits of Raimi's films that you're complaining about are traits of the genre. It's like comparing Adam West's Batman to Tim Burton's Batman both have similar traits (besides being about Batman) in that they are not realistically acted, cartoony etc but in very different ways. I also disagree that Raimi's films are loaded with explosions.

[nightcrawler13]

I get what you're saying, but Sam Raimi is far superior. You get a sense of childish playfulness, a bit like Tim Burton. A sense of benign mischief but with a real emotional maturity bubbling underneath. It's hard to describe, but their films have layers, even their worst ones.

I don't get that from Michael Bay at all. He's just a man child with a pornographic mindset. Every film he's done is incredibly shallow, what you see is ALL you get. Porn, nothing more.

Raimi IS far superior, I agree, I'm not trying to argue that at all. I've just been doing philosophy work for the last two weeks and so I'm in that mood where I question everything

Bay movies ARE bad, one dimensional, stupid, but then I laughed quite a lot at Transformers 3, not for the right reasons of course, but it just made me think that if we didn't have the preconception of Raimi being a b-movie director who made Evil Dead would we still actually like his films as much?

You're not comparing like for like, one is cult/B-movie director the other is a blockbuster director so the traits of Raimi's films that you're complaining about are traits of the genre. It's like comparing Adam West's Batman to Tim Burton's Batman both have similar traits (besides being about Batman) in that they are not realistically acted, cartoony etc but in very different ways. I also disagree that Raimi's films are loaded with explosions.

Is Raimi still a B-movie director?

Spider-Man 3 - $258 million

Oz - £215 million

Transformers 3 - $195 million

Pain & Gain - $40 million

His budgets are now blockbuster budgets, higher then Bays last two films by quite a bit, I enjoyed Spider-Man 3 and Oz, but only because I knew what I was looking for. I was looking for the old comic book influences and the old fantasy film influences, actually, neither were particularly good films, the acting was pretty bad in both, there was a lot of explosions in both of them with a lot of bad looking CGI....

ya see what I mean?

If Raimi has never made the Evil Dead movies would he still have as strong a foundation for his directorial tower not to topple?

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Is Raimi still a B-movie director?

Spider-Man 3 - $258 million

Oz - £215 million

Transformers 3 - $195 million

Pain & Gain - $40 million

You were basing the comparison of Raimi vs Bay on "The Quick and The Dead, Darkman and The Gift" against "Transformers" but in anycase as already mentioned it's a style rather than a lack of substance. Also Raimi's last two films were Drag Me To Hell and Oz not Spiderman 3 and Oz.

[kaosmark2]

I enjoyed Spider-Man 3

What?

Really?

[G-Stud]

Just want to say, while we're on the subject, I HATED Drag Me To Hell. I was really looking forward to it as well.

Also, Spider-Man 3 was shite.

Edited May 13, 2013 by G-Stud

[nightcrawler13]

Just want to say, while we're on the subject, I HATED Drag Me To Hell. I was really looking forward to it as well.

Also, Spider-Man 3 was shite.

Spider-Man 3 was very bad, but enjoyable to watch in the cinema none the less, it was like a real life 60s comic book

Transformers 3 was very very bad, but enjoyable to watch in the cinema none the less, it was like a real life 60s comic book

[When Jokers Attack]

Just want to say, while we're on the subject, I HATED Drag Me To Hell. I was really looking forward to it as well.

One of the worst films I have ever seen. Awful.

[windy_miller]

I'm not into Star Trek at all, but the new film is amazing.

[Purple Monkey]

You do have to laugh at Bay's films in order to survive them, or you'd fall asleep or go insane.

I tend to just switch off. All that matters really is character. Raimi and Burton generally deliver it in spades, Bay doesn't.

They use the same tools and methods as each other but the craft is worlds apart. It's like comparing an artisan with a trained chimp.

[Katster]

Dark skies is an actual ok ish horror movie. It's just a shame about all the shit bits.

[Purple Monkey]

Great Gatsby was good. Music was poor though, all modern nonsense.

[LondonTom]

KAHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

I loved STID!!! I can see niggles all over the place and maybe when I get it on on Blu-way it will annoy me now but as a film to go see in Imax 3D? Sensational!

That said, I am a little disappointed they went and remade TWOK...I think I might prefer this version. (Aside from the whole Kahn's Blood being a miracle cure thing). It seems a little a bit of an easy route considering they went to the trouble of rebooting the franchise so they could tell their own stories unconflicted with the rest of the Trek universe.

Also Kirk's demotion seemed the most pointless thing ever!

[Spindles]

Bah, skint, have to wait til payday, then there are higher priorities (glastonbury) so I'll just cave into temptation and watch the first decent version to hit the net. I really wanted to see it all guns blazing at the pictures though.

[Katster]

Bah, skint, have to wait til payday, then there are higher priorities (glastonbury) so I'll just cave into temptation and watch the first decent version to hit the net. I really wanted to see it all guns blazing at the pictures though.

Orange Wednesday?

It's the only time I can ever afford to see films at the cinema!