Films

[nightcrawler13]

*sighs*

I would have done anything for the third film to be Batman V The Riddler

The Riddler is one of my favourite badguys from any comic, and the fact that I was hoping he would be played by Robin Williams meant I would have exploded in delight

fingers crossed that Batman V Superman is decent, is the new Superman decent? Not watched it yet. I would very much like Aquaman in the JLA film, I think I just generally like green comic book characters

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None of the "greatest detective" aspect of batman was shown in Nolan's films, I quite liked the grounded realism aspect, but I'd have loved to see more detective work and intelligence coming from the title character. Nolan's batman is more like a self-absorbed Bond going back to Fox for gadgets when in trouble, rather than a genius introverted detective solving crimes before apprehending criminals. I'd hoped we'd get The Riddler, an insane criminal, but one that provides an intellectual challenge to the hero, rather than the same cheesy moral quandries Hollywood insist on showing time and again.

Well you they did have that 1 minute montage of Batman using a computer on bullet in Dark Knight.

Something I didn't get in Rises was that bloody autopilot, Fox builds it and then tells Bruce to fix without any knowledge or at least none shown in the film. I get it's a red herring but I got sick of hearing about throughout the flick and it not making any sense.

Personally I've always been fond of Lady Shiva and wished she'd be in flick as unlikely as it is but I did like Bane (crap ending aside) & Ra's and wished they wont just tap up the same 5/6 well known villians over & over again when there are some great villains not so over exposed like Professor Pyg, Deadshot, Court of Owls etc

[kaosmark2]

Personally I've always been fond of Lady Shiva and wished she'd be in flick as unlikely as it is but I did like Bane (crap ending aside) & Ra's and wished they wont just tap up the same 5/6 well known villians over & over again when there are some great villains not so over exposed like Professor Pyg, Deadshot, Court of Owls etc

I thought Tom Hardy's performance was excellent, but the script he was working in didn't make the best of how he was portraying Bane.

Deadshot would have been awesome. Not familiar with the others really.

[G-Stud]

Professor Pyg would have been twisted and amazing. The Court of Owls? Could have had a trilogy out of them alone!!

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Is anyone else getting fatigue from all the non-stop big movies coming out this year?

So far I've gone to the cinema to see Man Of Steel, Monsters University, Warm Bodies, Life Of Pi, Looper, Pacifc Rim, Oz, Iron Man 2, Wreck It Ralph, Django and Mama this year and I'm meant to be seeing Worlds End later tonight but I'm a bit meh tbh. I also passed up seeing Star Trek 2, Evil Dead, Wolverine and World War Z not because they didn't look good or didn't get invites to see it but because I'm getting bored of the cinema.

[windy_miller]

Don't go then. I hardly ever go to the cinema. I never feel like I'm missing out.

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Don't go then. I hardly ever go to the cinema. I never feel like I'm missing out.

Well my girlfriend wants to go but it's not that I'd feel like I'm missing out by not seeing something but I'm becoming lethargic to it simply due to overkill.

[Purple Monkey]

Pacific Rim was alright. If I wasn't weened on a diet of awesome garbage like Transformers and Power Rangers growing up I'd probably have been a bit confused as to what it was all about, and probably frustrated by it, but it's obviously for anyone that just likes watching big robots fight big monsters, and that would be me.

Not Del Toro's best effort, and not even his best action film - which as we all know is Hellboy 2, but its fun loud nonsense that lets you escape for a bit which is exactly what is in the trailer and exactly what I expected.

The main guy Zoolander'd the entire time through his scenes which got tiring quickly. Not a fan of Next catalog models playing lead roles and I don't know why Hollywood is so obsessed with doing that. Not every lead actor needs to look like they're on steroids.

However that being said it has some cool ideas and is mostly about teamwork and how our whole is far greater than the sum of our parts so at its heart it's got some soul. Maybe this is one film that could have done with a Will Smith type of lead involved, or a young Harrison Ford type. The characters lacked charisma.

I'm sure one of them was in Eastenders too. :/

Edited August 2, 2013 by Purple Monkey

[Purple Monkey]

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-2015-could-be-movie-industrys-worst-year-ever/

Let it burn

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http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-2015-could-be-movie-industrys-worst-year-ever/

Let it burn

The only thing I disagree with about that article is DVD/streaming sales & TV rights now count for a lot of the money a movie makes beyond the international boxoffice and the thing about franchise doesn't include Marvel/Avengers, Bond, Batman/Superman which would probably askew their point otherwise yeah it's right.

[luckysalt]

I think it was meant to emulate Killing Joke were the Joker proposes the scenario that everyone is just like him under the right circumstances. TBH the comic did it in a much better way.

Yeah I find those scenes annoying particularly in Spider-Men (expect the 2^nd where they got it almost perfect) where it needs to be shown in every one of those flicks even the new take, it think it’s because they want to show Spider-Man as an outsider in a thankless struggle but want to remind people his actions he takes have meaning or some bollocks.

I always find killing off the main character an easy ending, I prefer the character to reach a conclusion than just the kill him because it's finished, saying that tho I wasn’t greatly impressed with the ending mainly as they showed it to me already 20mins in so I was waiting for it to happen the entire time.

Its quite funny actually thinking about it.

Spiderman 2 was the best, Dark Knight was the best, X Men 2 was the best, heck even Matrix 2 was my favourite and Batman Returns.

Quite a lot of these comic book/fantasty films, the first sequel is always the best of the run.

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On to something else, I watched The Conjuring.

I haven't seen a film get so much attention for a while, seems everyone is talking about it, so I watched it yesterday. What I like about it is, the momentum keeps up, often with these types of films you'll have something eerie then lots of waiting for something else then maybe a big blow off and done.

It kept my interest but its not scary at all, its just a lot of loud noises in certain places, kids of social media, it was so scary, nope, its just an audio track being used correctly. If its not your first rodeo theres nothing new to see here, but its done quite well, I see a sequel has been announced already, which is fair enough, its made more than 5 times the cost of the film already. I'd recommend giving it a shot if you like these films, its far better than Evil Dead as well btw, that was a disgrace.

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Its quite funny actually thinking about it.

Spiderman 2 was the best, Dark Knight was the best, X Men 2 was the best, heck even Matrix 2 was my favourite and Batman Returns.

Quite a lot of these comic book/fantasty films, the first sequel is always the best of the run.

Yeah the myth that the sequel is never as good as original has gone away in recent years because as a lot of the comic book movies seem to improve over the original, probably due them being hindered by having to tell the origins in the 1st and then get to show the characters doing what they do. Completely disagree about the Matrix though, the 1st film was so on the mark that nothing could top it especially the 2 dodgy and confusing movies after it.

[LondonTom]

Spiderman 2 was the best, Dark Knight was the best, X Men 2 was the best, heck even Matrix 2 was my favourite and Batman Returns.

I love all the Matrix films but I am with jump on this , its all down to the first one being so spot on that the sequels were never going top it. (As good/cool as the multiple Agent Smiths fight scene/Car chase scene and meeting the Merovingian in the restaurant was ). They just didn't have that "woah" moment as Keanu Reeves would do like the first.

But yeah its lazy to say all squeals end up poor, a bit like saying all bands suffer from 2nd album syndrome.

Edited August 7, 2013 by LondonTom

[Purple Monkey]

The thing with The Matrix is that a trilogy was unnecessary. At the end of the first one it was all wrapped up as soon as Neo takes off. He was the one. Done.

The sequels were very contrived - the agents received 'upgrades' and they had the whole 'there's been more than one One and they all died so you are now in question as a hero once more haha!' bullshit. It's not like Star Wars where the villain flew away - Neo killed the villain. It was so meant to be just one movie.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Purple Monkey

[viberunner]

The thing with The Matrix is that a trilogy was unnecessary. At the end of the first one it was all wrapped up as soon as Neo takes off. He was the one. Done.

Erm. Except the Matrix still exists and humanity is still enslaved?

It works perfectly as his character arc, but of course there was a fantastic opportunity to see The One liberate the Matrix.

Unfortunately we got an at-times great / at-times shite sequel with Reloaded, and Revolutions? Revolutions in on par with the Star Wars episodes.

Hollywood abandoned the mid-price ($20-40m) think piece films to concentrate on Uberbusters and teen comedies. And the moment the Uberbuster bubble is bust (not least because almost every fucking superhero film is identical) then there's nothing to see.

I'm struggling to think of the last good Hollywood film. Has anything better than Cabin in the Woods been released since it was?

[Purple Monkey]

Erm. Except the Matrix still exists and humanity is still enslaved?

Didn't need to see it though. He becomes the One and so his arrival heralded the end of the enslavement. The sequels went on to show this was the case, so they were pointless.

It's hardly Empire Strikes Back where both Vader and The Empire are still about and the peril still exists at the end of the first film. That's when a sequel is interesting.

Anyway - films are too long. They're all trying to be the big thing and the result is an overly long bum-numbing and people don't have the time, or the cash to see them all.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Purple Monkey

[viberunner]

Didn't need to see it though. He becomes the One and so his arrival heralded the end of the enslavement. The sequels went on to show this was the case, so they were pointless.

Depends on how it was done. Even as it is there were a lot of great moments in Reloaded.

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Erm. Except the Matrix still exists and humanity is still enslaved?

It works perfectly as his character arc, but of course there was a fantastic opportunity to see The One liberate the Matrix.

Unfortunately we got an at-times great / at-times shite sequel with Reloaded, and Revolutions? Revolutions in on par with the Star Wars episodes.

Hollywood abandoned the mid-price ($20-40m) think piece films to concentrate on Uberbusters and teen comedies. And the moment the Uberbuster bubble is bust (not least because almost every fucking superhero film is identical) then there's nothing to see.

I'm struggling to think of the last good Hollywood film. Has anything better than Cabin in the Woods been released since it was?

What are you on about? Teen comedies are on a down trend and replaced with the likes of Hangover, there's been dozen of huge budget non-superheroes movies this year and Oscar fodder is still being produced.

[Purple Monkey]

What are you on about? Teen comedies are on a down trend and replaced with the likes of Hangover, there's been dozen of huge budget non-superheroes movies this year and Oscar fodder is still being produced.

The Hangover cost a ton to make, over 100 mil, it's unreal. Far more than a pretty mediocre comedy should cost in any sane universe.

The Lone Ranger is hilarious. Its a western - the genre which was so saturated at one point because it was CHEAP to make them, is a big budget bloated behemoth.

Something is very very wrong with all of this.

Even the top directors are saying the whole thing is fucked.

Best film I've seen this year? Looper. Not big budget, pretty old school guy movie about time travel, guns and saving the day. More of that please. It's not hard.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Purple Monkey

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The Hangover cost a ton to make, over 100 mil, it's unreal. Far more than a pretty mediocre comedy should cost in any sane universe.

The Lone Ranger is hilarious. Its a western - the genre which was so saturated at one point because it was CHEAP to make them, is a big budget bloated behemoth.

Something is very very wrong with all of this.

Even the top directors are saying the whole thing is fucked.

Best film I've seen this year? Looper. Not big budget, pretty old school. More of that please.

I was about to bring up Looper before your edit

[Purple Monkey]

I was about to bring up Looper before your edit

The reason I like it is that it's a rewatch movie. I've seen it a few times and I'll happily watch it again right now. Can't say that about most of the big epic uber movies I've seen recently. Edited August 7, 2013 by Purple Monkey

[TheGayTent]

Batman Returns better than Batman??

The world's gone mad

[Purple Monkey]

I love the Catwoman vs Batman stuff in Returns, but yeah I still think my fave Batman movie is the first one with Nicholson.

Heath Ledger is the best Joker, but Nicholson got the better movie. I like the vision and gothic comic bookiness of both of Burtons Batman's and his his work directly inspired the amazing Animated Series which the world owes him a debt for. Nicholson also arguably gets better lines. "Wait til they get a load of me" and "you cant make an omelette without breaking some eggs" and "I relieve you the little people of your failled and useless lives...." say what you like about Burton but the guy has a great dark sense of humour.

Edited August 9, 2013 by Purple Monkey

[zero000]

Finally got round to watching Paranormal Activity (only 6 years late). What an absolute pile of shit, I've woken up next to scarier things.

[windy_miller]

I'm struggling to think of the last good Hollywood film. Has anything better than Cabin in the Woods been released since it was?

Cabin In The Woods?! Seriously?! That was a pretty mediocre film at best.