Films

[The Nal]

Expendables 3 is "available".

Its complete nonsense.

[G-Stud]

Watched Rush for the first time a couple of weeks ago, I really liked it!

Off to see the new Apes flick tonight, looking forward to it

[jump]

Wonder Woman in the Batman vs Superman film looks rubbish and why is her costume brown?

Edited July 29, 2014 by jump

[mrtourette]

Is she the evil version?

[LondonTom]

Is she the evil version?

No, the dark and moody "realistic and relatable" version.

[The Nal]

Thats "period Wonder Woman". She wears brown as it makes her look less bloated, gets angry for no reason and then cries over utter nonsense.

Edited July 29, 2014 by The Nal

[Amy Lawn]

Ugh. These super serious superhero films are such a fucking drag, do these people know why people like superheroes? Because they're fun!

Christopher Reeve Superman, Adam West Batman, Lynda Carter Wonder Woman, absolute magic. Even without the fact that they were making a balls up of Superman, Man Of Steel was just a bad film. DC think they can copy the Marvel model by just cramming all their heroes into one film, but Marvel's films are all a tonne of fun, which is why they're so successful. Who gave a shit about Iron Man, Thor or Captain America before 2008? Now look at them, we're getting big budget Guardians of the Galaxy and Big Hero 6 film adaptations fer christsakes! DC need to ditch the silly seriousness and make something fun and colourful, The Lego Movie had a far better grasp on the appeal of their characters than they do. All you neckbeards that enjoy grim and gritty superhero films, grow the fuck up.

[The Nal]

Theres only been a handful of decent superhero movies. Ever. The genre churns out an awful amount of utter shite.

[mrtourette]

Thats "period Wonder Woman". She wears brown as it makes her look less bloated, gets angry for no reason and then cries over utter nonsense.

That's racist against females.

[jump]

That's racist against females.

That happens periodically.

[The Nal]

That's racist against females.

Thats a bit of an ovary action.

[dentalplan]

Ugh. These super serious superhero films are such a fucking drag, do these people know why people like superheroes? Because they're fun!

Christopher Reeve Superman, Adam West Batman, Lynda Carter Wonder Woman, absolute magic. Even without the fact that they were making a balls up of Superman, Man Of Steel was just a bad film. DC think they can copy the Marvel model by just cramming all their heroes into one film, but Marvel's films are all a tonne of fun, which is why they're so successful. Who gave a shit about Iron Man, Thor or Captain America before 2008? Now look at them, we're getting big budget Guardians of the Galaxy and Big Hero 6 film adaptations fer christsakes! DC need to ditch the silly seriousness and make something fun and colourful, The Lego Movie had a far better grasp on the appeal of their characters than they do. All you neckbeards that enjoy grim and gritty superhero films, grow the fuck up.

Nolan's serious superhero movies brought the genre back to life and made it profitable again. Now they're just trying to make a buck out of it, which is fairplay, that's what this sort of movie is about.

Not all Marvel movies are fun anyway. The Amazing Spider-Man isn't.

Edited July 29, 2014 by dentalplan

[The Nal]

The last Nolan movie was an embarrassment for all concerned. From start to finish.

[LondonTom]

Not all Marvel movies are fun anyway. The Amazing Spider-Man isn't.

Technically not Marvel, its Sony Pictures

[jump]

Nolan's serious superhero movies brought the genre back to life and made it profitable again. Now they're just trying to make a buck out of it, which is fairplay, that's what this sort of movie is about.

Not all Marvel movies are fun anyway. The Amazing Spider-Man isn't.

I think they are talking about just the Avengers films that are made by Marvel and not the ones they sold off like SpiderMan, Blade and X-Men. It's also worth remembering the film that kicked off the superhero flicks was X-Men which I wouldn't really call fun.

The last Nolan movie was an embarrassment for all concerned. From start to finish.

I can't rewatch it as it's too much effort but I still rate Bane & Catwoman as great in it, the rest of it is very meh.

[dentalplan]

Technically not Marvel, its Sony Pictures

I think they are talking about just the Avengers films that are made by Marvel and not the ones they sold off like SpiderMan, Blade and X-Men. It's also worth remembering the film that kicked off the superhero flicks was X-Men which I wouldn't really call fun.

Ah okay. I'm admittedly not that wise about the genre. I thought the more recent mega success of TDK and TDKR ushered in the age of the relentless superhero movies rather than the X-Men films in the early to mid 00's.

Edited July 29, 2014 by dentalplan

[Amy Lawn]

I think they are talking about just the Avengers films that are made by Marvel and not the ones they sold off like SpiderMan, Blade and X-Men. It's also worth remembering the film that kicked off the superhero flicks was X-Men which I wouldn't really call fun.

That helped bring superhero films into the mainstream because of the cinematic element of it, the high stakes and (for its time) modern look, but let's not pretend it wasn't a tonne of fun. It took itself seriously, but it had Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen completely chewing the scenery all the way through and it took ample opportunities to geek out and have fun with the fact that this was the X-Men on the big screen, they throw out intentionally corny one-liners all the way through. The cartoonish tone of the first two X movies (and Matthew Vaughn's First Class is infinitely more over-the-top that those) is worlds away from the Nolan films.

[BlackHole2006]

Watch A Clockwork Orange for the first time the other day. Unbelievable film, Malcolm McDowell's performance as Alex is inspiring.

[kaosmark2]

I still rate Catwoman as great in it,

Wtf?

I don't. At all. She's completely irrelevant to the whole film, the whole plot. The relationship between her and Batman seems forced for the sake of a romance and cheesy ending.

[Amy Lawn]

Did anybody see that episode of The Trip where they spend about 10 minutes doing impressions of Bane and Batman and taking the piss? Series 2 of The Trip was nowhere near as good as the first, but that sequence had me properly in stitches.

[The Nal]

Yes!

[viberunner]

That helped bring superhero films into the mainstream because of the cinematic element of it, the high stakes and (for its time) modern look, but let's not pretend it wasn't a tonne of fun. It took itself seriously, but it had Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen completely chewing the scenery all the way through and it took ample opportunities to geek out and have fun with the fact that this was the X-Men on the big screen, they throw out intentionally corny one-liners all the way through. The cartoonish tone of the first two X movies (and Matthew Vaughn's First Class is infinitely more over-the-top that those) is worlds away from the Nolan films.

Yes, but The X-Men, like most comic superheroes, was always camper than The Dark Knight. It's not just that Nolan randomly decided to make Batman dark and brooding, that adaptation had already happened in the comics and right or wrong fans adored it.

Not all Marvel movies are fun anyway. The Amazing Spider-Man isn't.

The Amazing Spider-Man films are the good Spider-Man films, but tonally it's much darker than the comics than spawned it.

[Amy Lawn]

Yes, but The X-Men, like most comic superheroes, was always camper than The Dark Knight. It's not just that Nolan randomly decided to make Batman dark and brooding, that adaptation had already happened in the comics and right or wrong fans adored it.

I reckon Tim Burton is way closer to Frank Miller than Nolan. The world of The Dark Knight is gaudy and off-the-wall, it's very cartoony, and Batman is a total lunatic, Nolan plays it all very straight and insists on trying to make it all as real-world as possible. It's probably closest to Year One if anything. The X-Men have had many dark turns, anything you find in Batman comics, you can probably find somewhere in X-Men. I'm not even knocking Nolan's Batman, it was alright for a three film series, it's the new series trying to ape the style that I'm not happy with. Man Of Steel was a totally horrible film, no redeeming features at all, and they're carrying that on and bringing WW down with them.

In other film news, The Cornerhouse in Manchester is doing a Studio Ghibli season, I started clearing space in my diary, but I've just noticed that they're showing the Japanese language films with English subtitles. That makes me nothappy, the quality of most modern dubs on Ghibli films are very good, the hardcore fans that will only watch subtitled films are just blowhards that want to keep their niche as inaccessible as possible to the mainstream. No matter what excuses they throw out about it being "distracting" that the dialogue doesn't match the mouths 100%, or has been forced to fit the film, or missed the original meaning, none of this is as awkward of trying to focus on one of the most magnificent spectacles of animation, while also trying to keep up with the subtitles. It's a clunky and labourious way of experiencing the film, a bad dub may sometimes take you out of the film, subtitles will always take you out of the film. So I'm not going, the dickhead Japanophiles can sit among themselves and congratulate each other about how they're all proper fans, the tossers.

[t8yman]

Watch A Clockwork Orange for the first time the other day. Unbelievable film, Malcolm McDowell's performance as Alex is inspiring.

one of my all time faves right there.

it gets better after repeated watchings.

viddy well little brother, viddy well.

[Katster]

I don't mind subtitles if they are done well (clear), in an appropriate colour (ideally white on black in the border rather than on top of the screen area) and spelt correctly etc.