Films

[jump]

Wtf?

I don't. At all. She's completely irrelevant to the whole film, the whole plot. The relationship between her and Batman seems forced for the sake of a romance and cheesy ending.

I agree she's not need at all in the plot, expect maybe killing Bane you could completely edit her out of the film and not notice she's missing but in terms of preformance and her set pieces (stuff like her & Bats taking out subway henchman, the bar meeting) I really enjoyed it and could watch more of her. Plus she isn't wearing a brown costume!

I hate that ending, they show it to you it within the 20mins completely undoing will Bats make it throughout the movie. I did find it weird he kept telling her there is good in her based on her stealing from him and setting traps on him throughout the film.

[G-Stud]

I need this in my life.

http://youtu.be/1XtMD5fLzss

Edited July 30, 2014 by G-Stud

[TheGayTent]

I can't rewatch it as it's too much effort but I still rate Bane & Catwoman as great in it, the rest of it is very meh.

Seriously?? Hathaway was dreadful.

[TheGayTent]

Wtf?

I don't. At all. She's completely irrelevant to the whole film, the whole plot. The relationship between her and Batman seems forced for the sake of a romance and cheesy ending.

And this. Completely agree. There was no chemistry whatsoever either. Edited July 30, 2014 by TheGayTent

[jump]

Seriously?? Hathaway was dreadful.

I disagree. Marion Cotillard was truly dreadful in it and also gave one of the worst death scenes I've ever seen, she really needs to stop making English language films as she's always shit in them.

Heathaway in the scenes I mentioned in the other post was great, the problem was her role in the overall plot wasn't needed at all (like a lot of things in that flick) and a hacked on relationship didn't really help. Like I said I wanted to see more of her being Catwoman and less Bats in hole and tacked on subplots that don't do anything.

[The Nal]

The last Batman movie was one of the worst superhero movies ever.

Couldn't understand Bane. Sounded like Brian Blessed speaking into a traffic cone.

Almost forgot Catwoman was in it.

Batman gets his back broken, gets a light massage, does a few pull ups and that fixes it?

Bane - the biggest and baddest of them all - dies off screen after being knocked down by a bike following 3 hours of immortality?!

Absolutely preposterous movie. No better than Schumachers Batman and Robin. But shot a little bit better using better sets.

Actually the last movie and the 2nd half of the 2nd one are awful.

Edited July 30, 2014 by The Nal

[LondonTom]

I hate that ending, they show it to you it within the 20mins completely undoing will Bats make it throughout the movie. I did find it weird he kept telling her there is good in her based on her stealing from him and setting traps on him throughout the film.

Its been a while since I watched but isn't the ending supposed to give the idea that it could be Alfred's grief/dream coming out?

[jump]

Its been a while since I watched but isn't the ending supposed to give the idea that it could be Alfred's grief/dream coming out?

If you stretch it you can get that take from it but there was nothing there to suggest it was a dream, remember other stuff happened like the pearl necklace was missing and the Batplane being fixed to suggest he is alive besides Alfred seeing and not saying hi just like he wanted.

Bane - the biggest and baddest of them all - dies off screen after being knocked down by a bike following 3 hours of immortality?!

Bane was shot by Catwoman tho.

[kaosmark2]

The last Batman movie was one of the worst superhero movies ever.

I think it's got a hell of a lot of problems but I reckon that's hyperbole. There's an awful lot of shit out there. Raimi's Spiderman films (particularly 2 and 3), Wolverine: Origins, Fantastic Four, Hellboy 2... I think it's a mediocre film that is worse in the context of the trilogy it's in, rather than truly awful.

[TheGayTent]

Heathaway in the scenes I mentioned in the other post was great, the problem was her role in the overall plot wasn't needed at all (like a lot of things in that flick) and a hacked on relationship didn't really help. Like I said I wanted to see more of her being Catwoman and less Bats in hole and tacked on subplots that don't do anything.

Can't believe I've just read Anne Hathaway and great written about the dark knight rises!

If Hathaway has a place in this Batman trilogy she should have played Rachel Dawes instead of Katie/Maggie. If not, there's no place for her or her acting skills IMO.

[The Nal]

I think it's got a hell of a lot of problems but I reckon that's hyperbole. There's an awful lot of shit out there. Raimi's Spiderman films (particularly 2 and 3), Wolverine: Origins, Fantastic Four, Hellboy 2... I think it's a mediocre film that is worse in the context of the trilogy it's in, rather than truly awful.

But people were going on IMDB and downvoting the Godfather and Shawshank just so Batman could move up the ratings ranking.

Its as bad as any of the other non runner films. No redeeming features basically.

[Spindles]

Sorry, but in a world where the green lantern movie exists I can't accept that TDKR is the worst superhero movie.

[Amy Lawn]

Absolutely preposterous movie. No better than Schumachers Batman and Robin. But shot a little bit better using better sets.

Get right out of town, mister. Schumacher's Batman & Robin is joyous, it's the spiritual successor to the Adam West's Batman. It took a bashing at the time because it was the fourth in a series that had not embraced the full camp value up to that point, it was a swerve upon release, but it gels much better now that we've seen the Nolan films. In the first 10 minutes of the opening act you have rubber bums and nipples on the batsuits, Batman and Robin sliding down a dinosaurs tail, Batman and Robin fighting on ice skates, Arnold Schwarzenegger being manic and shouting puns in a spacesuit as Mr Freeze, Batman and Robin surfing through the air away from an exploding space rocket, it's incredible fun. And don't even get me started on the sets from that film, it's my single favourite iteration of Gotham, it's balls to the wall crazy and utterly beautiful.

I saw How To Train Your Dragon 2 today, it's really great, the first one is enjoyable yet middling, this one is a totally different beast altogether. I really recommend this one, whether you saw its predecessor or not. I was also excited to see the teaser for Big Hero 6 before the film, I cannot wait for that to come out, it got big laughs from a small audience, it's going to be a hit.

[kaosmark2]

But people were going on IMDB and downvoting the Godfather and Shawshank just so Batman could move up the ratings ranking.

Its as bad as any of the other non runner films. No redeeming features basically.

People are retarded. That doesn't affect the quality of a film.

Strongly disagree about it having no redeeming features. I thought Hardy's performance as Bane was excellent, I liked the Talia plot. It has a hell of a lot of problems but it's not the worst film around.

Sorry, but in a world where the green lantern movie exists I can't accept that TDKR is the worst superhero movie.

I refuse to acknowledge that exists.

[kaosmark2]

Not to mention The Wolverine (origins isn't THAT bad), X men 3, Iron Man 2 (this is the worst of the relatively recent superhero films and that is an actual provable fact), the first Thor film. All of these are far worse than the Dark Knight Rises.

And I feel Man of steel has come in for some unfair criticism on here. Far better than Superman Returns.

Didn't bother watching The Wolverine.

Origins is appalling. Utter waste of a film. Brutalises Gambit. To coin a phrase used earlier, no redeeming features whatsoever.

X3 has some. It's a poor film but I still wouldn't put it as a contender for one of the worst.

Iron Man 2 is pretty terrible. Not sure I agree it's the worst but it lacks a hell of a lot. Thor's bad but at least it's doing something slightly different.

[Amy Lawn]

I don't get what people hate about Iron Man 2, nothing wrong with it, it's just not brilliant. But Thor is brilliant and you should all feel bad.

[dentalplan]

The wolverine makes origins look like the best film ever made.

Come to think about it, I don't think I've seen a poorer superhero movie than The Wolverine. Must not get much stick because of how instantly forgettable it is.

[Amy Lawn]

Iron Man 2 isn't the worst by any measure, Green Lantern, Green Hornet, Man Of Steel, Elektra, Steel and loads more are way worse.

[mrtourette]

I liked all three of Nolan's Batmans and I find most of the Marvel films tiresome. The only redeeming feature of them is when either Tom Hiddleston or Mark Ruffalo are on screen. Man of Steel was awfully dull. Apart from the latest Wolverine the X-Men films are all pretty good.

[kaosmark2]

I liked all three of Nolan's Batmans and I find most of the Marvel films tiresome. The only redeeming feature of them is when either Tom Hiddleston or Mark Ruffalo are on screen. Man of Steel was awfully dull. Apart from the latest Wolverine the X-Men films are all pretty good.

I think the biggest problem with the MCU films is that for so many of them the villain is "like the superhero but without morals". Iron Man fights guys in robot suits, the Hulk fights effectively a version of himself.

I haven't watched Winter Soldier yet, but I thought Captain America 1 had a lot of good qualities in avoiding that. I really liked how they pressured him into serving as a symbol for military propaganda because that was supposedly the best way he could help his country. Thor 1 again had different elements to "Hero gains power, hero struggles, evil version of hero appears, hero fights them for righteousness and to protect someone", but the problem is it didn't do anything else with that.

I think X3 gets unfair stick because of the let down after X2, similar to TDKR. They're both unimpressive films with good, bad and irrelevant bits. First Class was pretty good (particularly Mystique and Beast), but it has a number of problems (a FBI agent's best assets supposedly being getting her knockers out...). Wolverine Origins was dire though. I can't agree with anyone who suggests that's worth recommending.

[viberunner]

I think it's got a hell of a lot of problems but I reckon that's hyperbole. There's an awful lot of shit out there. Raimi's Spiderman films (particularly 2 and 3), Wolverine: Origins, Fantastic Four, Hellboy 2... I think it's a mediocre film that is worse in the context of the trilogy it's in, rather than truly awful.

Except Hellboy 2 was magnificent?

[jump]

Worst superhero film is easily Catwoman, the baddie's plan is to sell evil make up, the costumes are horrible, cheap CGI, it's nothing like Catwoman at all and Halle Berry doesn't even try in it.

New gambit film in the offing but I won't expect too much.

There's not a Gambit film, he's just gonna be in the next X-Men film.

I think the biggest problem with the MCU films is that for so many of them the villain is "like the superhero but without morals". Iron Man fights guys in robot suits, the Hulk fights effectively a version of himself.

In fairness the Marvel films have started moving away from the samey/bland bad guys Iron Man 3, Captain America 2 make great use of their baddies but Loki is still easily the best baddie they have had.

Also I'm off to see Guradians of The Galaxy tomorrow (I'm still shocked this is made into a movie before Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman or any other known comic) but it's been getting rave reviews, I've seen a review summary pop up on Rotten Tomatoes as "ROFL".

Edited July 31, 2014 by jump

[jump]

In fact

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1475594/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t1

edit to say meant to edit original post - bollox knows how I ended up quoting myself

Ah my bad, I knew he was comfirmed for the new X-flick but not a solo one too. I reckon it'll end up like the planned Magneto/Deadpool solo film and not go through tho.

When I looked at the page I did give a smirk that the Magic Mike sequel is called Magic Mike XXL.

Edited July 31, 2014 by jump

[kaosmark2]

In fairness the Marvel films have started moving away from the samey/bland bad guys Iron Man 3, Captain America 2 make great use of their baddies but Loki is still easily the best baddie they have had.

Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing with that. But basically every one pre-Avengers followed that formula.

[LondonTom]

Not to mention The Wolverine (origins isn't THAT bad), X men 3, Iron Man 2 (this is the worst of the relatively recent superhero films and that is an actual provable fact), the first Thor film. All of these are far worse than the Dark Knight Rises.

And I feel Man of steel has come in for some unfair criticism on here. Far better than Superman Returns.

Iron Man 2 is pretty terrible. Not sure I agree it's the worst but it lacks a hell of a lot. Thor's bad but at least it's doing something slightly different.

No! It does have its flaws, but it still kicks arse. Its one of those films where its not as good as the others in the series as it was kind of needed as the middle in the story for the others to be as awesome. Justin Hammer was brilliant and I'd have rather seen him as as the villian rather than whole silly plot with Whiplash as they needed him for mussle in the big shown down

The Wolverine is by far the worst out of the more recent movies, its plot makes 0 sense and the only part of it that is actually enjoyable is the end credits scene.

Can't believe Thor 1 gets a slating to, The Dark World is obviously miles better but it doesn't make Thor 1 a terrible film.