Films

[LondonTom]

You're right. Thor 1 makes Thor 1 a terrible film. Way before the dark world came out.

Vida tinss

Are one of the guys behind CinemaSins?

[metallimuse]

Despite Michael Bay's involvement,I am really looking forward to the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film.

Loved them as a kid and I still say the original two movies hold up including the Turtles costumes themselves.If it doesn't contain the line "I've said it once and I'll say it again,God I love being a turtle" I will be annoyed though.

[jump]

Despite Michael Bay's involvement,I am really looking forward to the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film.

Loved them as a kid and I still say the original two movies hold up including the Turtles costumes themselves.If it doesn't contain the line "I've said it once and I'll say it again,God I love being a turtle" I will be annoyed though.

It looks horrible imo, apparently it's opening in Oz on 9th Sep and the poster is of the turtles jumping out of an exploding skyscraper which I personally blame Micheal Bay for!

[LondonTom]

It looks horrible imo, apparently it's opening in Oz on 9th Sep and the poster is of the turtles jumping out of an exploding skyscraper which I personally blame Micheal Bay for!

Nah 11th

[Amy Lawn]

Needless to say, that's very bad taste.

[kaosmark2]

The thing with superhero movies which always amazes me is how many times you can remake the same film and so many fucking morons queue up to spend money to watch it....

Because no other genre does lots of remakes and needless sequels and prequels and wewantallyourmoneysohere'sanotherfilms-els?

[kaosmark2]

What makes the superhero genre stand out is the budgets / returns....

Spiderman 2002 - $139,000,000 / $821,708,551

The amazing Spiderman 2012 - $230,000,000 / $696,859,765

Source: IMDB

That is a mind boggling amount of idiots basically watching the same film

This runs true for almost all the superhero franchises... The just keep pouring money into basically redoing the same boring film with a bit more fancy CGI and there are queues around the block to watch them...

Its pure Hollywood corporate porn Gordon Gekko would feel guilty about

Mission Impossible, Die Hard, The Fast and the Furious, Star Wars.

There's lots of others guilty of it.

[Spindles]

Indeed, and the current hollywood trend of "reboots" is only going to make it worse. Anything that made money at the box office 30 years ago is going to get rehashed and ruined, I look at the total recall remake and just know that the terminator remake is going to be just as bad.

The problem has to be that it is the producers who make the decisions and they are primarily driven by (1) spending money and (2) making money. It is a no brainer for them to green light superhero movies (which are largely, in my opinion, trash and as Barry says, repetitive storylines) and remakes because they are "brands" which ensure that a large chunk of the movie going population will turn out in droves.

[dentalplan]

2015 is gonna be sequel/reboot hell. New Bond, Avengers, Jurassic Park, Fast & Furious, Terminator, Mission Impossible, Hunger Games, plus a lot of kids' sequels, the introduction of Ant-Man and reintroduction of the Fantastic Four. It doesn't matter though really, it's just fun viewing.

[mrtourette]

Mission Impossible, Die Hard, The Fast and the Furious, Star Wars.

There's lots of others guilty of it.

The situation certainly does appear to be worse with the superhero films/franchises though. While those you mention repeat their own tired formula there's enough to make them appear different from each other. The Marvel/superhero franchise not only repeat their own tired formula but share that same tired formula between the franchises, making it/them extremely tiresome. The the crossing over of characters between them certainly doesn't help, neither does the rapid-fire release of these films.

[mrtourette]

It doesn't matter though really, it's just fun viewing.

Absolutely, that's what entertainment is all about. 'Large amount of the general public like something easy to digest, repetitive and uninspiring' shouldn't be a revelation to anybody.

Edited August 3, 2014 by mrtourette

[Amy Lawn]

What makes the superhero genre stand out is the budgets / returns....

Spiderman 2002 - $139,000,000 / $821,708,551

The amazing Spiderman 2012 - $230,000,000 / $696,859,765

Source: IMDB

That is a mind boggling amount of idiots basically watching the same film

This runs true for almost all the superhero franchises... The just keep pouring money into basically redoing the same boring film with a bit more fancy CGI and there are queues around the block to watch them...

Its pure Hollywood corporate porn Gordon Gekko would feel guilty about

People like to watch fun, cartoonish superhero romps, I don't think you can accuse them all of being idiots there, Barry. Nobody thinks they're getting Citizen Kane, it's just light entertainment, most of the viewers are children. A lot of love and devotion and work goes into these films, there's probably more passion in your average superhero film than any other blockbuster, because they're made by and for people who love the source material and want to make their mark. Yes, they're made to make money, and they make money, but that's capitalism, old boy.

Those Fast And Furious, Set Up and Saw series on the other hand....

[t8yman]

anyway, I'm back home now, and watched "Starred Up" yesterday, a film I have been wanting to see for quite some time. It was (as I expected) a very tough watch. But brilliant none the less.

Locke is next for me, I really fancy that too. Anyone watched it?

[kaosmark2]

I liked Superman and Ninja Turtles when I was eight years old... I grew up

So grown up that you like to mock people for enjoying something

[Amy Lawn]

I grew up

It's good for the soul to indulge the child in you, it's not the 40s anymore.

[dentalplan]

Locke is next for me, I really fancy that too. Anyone watched it?

Yeah. It was fairly good. There's only so much you can get out of single-location movies but it was interesting enough.

[kaosmark2]

I have Disney for that

So your inner child is filled with messages of hate and prejudice? That makes sense

[Mouseboy11]

Anyone else seen GOTG yet? Simply brilliant.

[jump]

Well of course there is but you are missing my point... No doubt on purpose..

The horror genre is the worse for remakes / reboots but the budgets don't quite as daft as with the superhero genre...

So genre flicks are ok as long as the budget isn't too big?

Anyone else seen GOTG yet? Simply brilliant.

I enjoyed it, I was expecting more of comedy the way it was being talked about but the film still works. I loved the bickering between characters, I could watched that more than anything else in the film. The end credits easter is nothing special and would be lost on most people.

I wish they stopped trying to cram in so many references in the Marvel films tho, afterwards I was trying to explain to my girlfriend what the Kree, Nova, Thanos etc was and even as a comic fan I was struggling as I don't like Marvel's cosmic/space stuff.

Edited August 4, 2014 by jump

[jump]

No I was just pointing out the extreme levels the superhero franchise operate at...

I'd say Spider Man is more the expection than the rule, other reboots have been multiple decades. People where bitching like mad when Spidey was announced to be rebooted but it needed to be made so the studio could keep the rights.

As much as people like to say Superhero flicks are all the same just look at the difference between Heath Ledger Joker and Jack Nicholson Joker, Man Of Steel and 70's Superman even the Spider Man fllms made a change from blockbuster B-movie to indie teen rom-com adventure. The main problem is there are just too many of them (which I'm happy with tbh) and not that they are all the same film. If they want to keep it up they need to mix it up to avoid fatigue, stuff like Sandman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman can make a very different and intresting film.

[kaosmark2]

If they want to keep it up they need to mix it up to avoid fatigue, stuff like Sandman,

I would be heartbroken if they butchered Sandman for standard blockbluster plot.

[LondonTom]

Well of course there is but you are missing my point... No doubt on purpose..

The horror genre is the worse for remakes / reboots but the budgets don't quite as daft as with the superhero genre...

So what you are saying, is you don't like hollywood spending big budgets on stuff that they are going get their money back on?

What other genres need such big bidgets in the first place? Its always going be action/superhero movies because of the CGI and effects needed.

Yeah they are bit childish, but fuck it its escapism at its heart, there is to much drama in real life as it is. I want to sit back, eat popcorn and imagine I can build a body armour that lets me save the world and bring about world peace.

. If they want to keep it up they need to mix it up to avoid fatigue, stuff like Sandman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman can make a very different and intresting film.

Edited August 4, 2014 by LondonTom

[Mouseboy11]

I enjoyed it, I was expecting more of comedy the way it was being talked about but the film still works. I loved the bickering between characters, I could watched that more than anything else in the film. The end credits easter is nothing special and would be lost on most people.

I wish they stopped trying to cram in so many references in the Marvel films tho, afterwards I was trying to explain to my girlfriend what the Kree, Nova, Thanos etc was and even as a comic fan I was struggling as I don't like Marvel's cosmic/space stuff.

I think it was the Marvel film that's been heaviest on comedy so far for sure. The opening sequence with Quill doing singing into the little aliens was brilliant.

Also thought James Gunn did a pretty good job of building the world, lots of nice subtle references as well such as

Adam Warlock's coccoon and Lylla's name appearing.

[jump]

I would be heartbroken if they butchered Sandman for standard blockbluster plot.

You don't need a plot. Just cast Johnny Depp as Morpheus, have Helena Bonham Carter as Death with Tim Burton dircting it and it will be the best film ever!!!

If you have no imagination, the ocean covers 70% of the planet yet I have trouble thinking of a big film that has really used it apart from maybe the Abyss.

[Amy Lawn]

I have Disney for that

Disney own Marvel and distribute all the Marvel Studios films.

Boom.

Oh, and the next WDAS film is a Marvel adaptation.

And it looks....

Amazing

If somebody told me 5 years ago that we'd be getting big budget films of the very poorly received, 90s-bad Chris Claremont miniseries Big Hero 6 and the awesome but cancelled-cos-nobody-read-it series Guardians Of the Galaxy, I'd have laughed in their face. And then if they said we were getting a Doctor Strange film I'd have said "it's about damn time!".