eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 So YouView has finally launched, and on the surface it's what I've been waiting for. (for those who don't know, it's a Freeview HD set-top box, with integrated iPlayer, ITVPlayer, 4Player, and a few other streaming services. Oh, and also a bit like Sky+, where you can pause & record whats on TV ... I think that's it, but i've not looked too deeply). But things have moved on in other ways since the idea first came about - for instance, with internet TVs that (I'm presuming) can access all of the same streaming services, and more as well. So does anyone have experience of a YouView box? Is it any good? Would getting an internet TV be a better way to go instead? If so, what extras does an internet TV need hooked up to it (such as a computer, perhaps?) to be able to do much the same as the YouView box. I know almost nothing about internet TVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul ™ Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Had heard of this but to be honest hadn't looked into it in any detail. I just have though, and it looks pretty decent for what would be an initial outlay of the box (unless getting it via your BB provider free), but yeah looks very similar to what a Smart TV would do. I've not got a Smart TV (but do have a 3D Bluray Player which has the internet connected Samsung SmartHub which is very similar) but to be honest I don't use it as we have the Virgin TiVo now and this does pretty much the same thing with streaming services, YouTube etc. I'd say YouView would be good if you don't plan to buy a new TV in the next couple years, but if you do then perhaps a Smart TV would do the job for you but then you wouldn't have the 500GB recording capacity either. A Smart TV would just require either a wireless connection to your router (some are built in on the more expensive TVs) or an ethernet connection to your router (this is what we have to the BR player). Guess it just depends what you have currently got and what you are planning to purchase in the next couple of years. Edited October 4, 2012 by Paul ™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Guess it just depends what you have currently got and what you are planning to purchase in the next couple of years. I've got two cheap-ish but decent-ish TVs bought about 5 years ago - before Freeview had HD, and before the internet TVs came out. I bought at a bad time. I've since bought a cheap Freeview HD box for one of them, but I tend to only use the HD for footie - for most other stuff the difference in meaningful quality is so negligible that I don't bother with it (and, I'm not sure if this is the case with all boxes, but it won't do BBC text on the BBC HD channels). The TVs both have adapters at the back to take a PC display input, but I've never actually bothered to connect a PC to them. They don't have an ethernet adaptor of any kind. I'm not bothered about getting YouTube on my TV (and there's actually reasons why I don't want it), but iPlayer/ITVPlayer/4PLayer would be occasionally useful. I guess I'd occasionally use the recording feature of YouView, but I've lived quite happily without recording stuff for well over 15 years. The YouView boxes are currently about £250 I think, but if an internet TV/smart TV cost more and was more adaptable for what I might use it for then I'd be happy to spend quite a bit more - but what extra could it do for me? I don't actually know. Edited October 4, 2012 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 So YouView has finally launched, and on the surface it's what I've been waiting for. (for those who don't know, it's a Freeview HD set-top box, with integrated iPlayer, ITVPlayer, 4Player, and a few other streaming services. Oh, and also a bit like Sky+, where you can pause & record whats on TV ... I think that's it, but i've not looked too deeply). But things have moved on in other ways since the idea first came about - for instance, with internet TVs that (I'm presuming) can access all of the same streaming services, and more as well. So does anyone have experience of a YouView box? Is it any good? Would getting an internet TV be a better way to go instead? If so, what extras does an internet TV need hooked up to it (such as a computer, perhaps?) to be able to do much the same as the YouView box. I know almost nothing about internet TVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I've not used a youview box, but smart TVs only need a web connection. what else can be done with that net connection aside from accessing the likes of iPlayer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 what else can be done with that net connection aside from accessing the likes of iPlayer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) Youtube, and not a lot else. There's a few App type things you can get and use, but not many. A Youview box sounds like it has a lot more functionality. Thanks. I guess a YouView box is the way to go (tho I'll wait a bit for the prices to drop), and I can hook-up a PC to the TV if I ever want to do anything 'net which isn't in the box. Edited October 4, 2012 by eFestivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul ™ Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think a YouView box would definately suit your needs more, and if you want their is also the option to purchase additional content such as movies etc too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaosmark2 Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Thanks. I guess a YouView box is the way to go (tho I'll wait a bit for the prices to drop), and I can hook-up a PC to the TV if I ever want to do anything 'net which isn't in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkShow Bob Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 If its iPlayer et all thought your TV your after you could buy a consol - will be cheaper than £250 and do the job. If you get a PS3 you get blueray to boot. Depending on how bigger TV your after I saw smart TVs of quite a good size for £400 in Curries the other day so sure you can get an OK small one for not much more than £250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I think a YouView box would definately suit your needs more, and if you want their is also the option to purchase additional content such as movies etc too. yeah, I saw it had a Sky Movies on-demand subscription. I guess that's what Sky screwed out of the YouView consortium in return for Sky dropping the legal action which was stopping the whole project going ahead. But as I've watched only 2 films in the last 15+ years, I don't think it's something I'll be taking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 If its iPlayer et all thought your TV your after you could buy a consol - will be cheaper than £250 and do the job. If you get a PS3 you get blueray to boot. I've got an xbox hooked up, but that won't do iPlayer (or didn't last time I looked a few months back, anyway). I'm not sure that any of the consoles do iPlayer, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdoujaparov Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I've got an xbox hooked up, but that won't do iPlayer (or didn't last time I looked a few months back, anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkShow Bob Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I've got an xbox hooked up, but that won't do iPlayer (or didn't last time I looked a few months back, anyway). I'm not sure that any of the consoles do iPlayer, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 it does now ahh, thanks ... will either have to update it, or slap the kid for not telling me he's updated it and its there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windy_miller Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 ahh, thanks ... will either have to update it, or slap the kid for not telling me he's updated it and its there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 You will need an Xbox Live Gold account to use it though. ahh ok - but kiddo has one of them, so it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul ™ Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 (edited) I'm surprised internet tv isn't bigger really.. 10-15 years ago I'd have thought it would much more common by now, but it seems regular tv is marching on. Edited October 4, 2012 by Paul ™ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm surprised internet tv isn't bigger really.. 10-15 years ago I'd have thought it would much more common by now, but it seems regular tv is marching on. it's the difference between something which is quality filtered and something which isn't. It's why record companies will always have a place. Their demise has been greatly exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkShow Bob Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 it's the difference between something which is quality filtered and something which isn't. It's why record companies will always have a place. Their demise has been greatly exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eFestivals Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I dont know surly the quality filtering with regards to music will be done, as is more and more now, by layman reviewer votings stuff up and down. nah - it's too general. If the people voting don't have the same tastes as you, the vote reflects nothing meaningful to you. The mass penetration of TV is able to create and sustain themed 'brands' - so you know that Jools Holland will have quality music, and T4 On The Beach will be full of shite. It's possible that eventually the internet will be able group itself in a similar way, but as things stand the reality of music licencing has all the music at brands that are far too generalised (iTunes, etc - trying to be everything to everyone), and which don't have the likes of Jools or the T4 producers in the background doing some filtering before it reaches you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdoujaparov Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 ah fuck it, all of this just makes my teeth itch I listen to music on vinyl I rarely watch the telly (I gave in and got one a couple of weeks ago as Mrs Abdoujaparov is expecting a mini-Abdoujaparov in January) I might go and live in a cave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windy_miller Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 it's the difference between something which is quality filtered and something which isn't. It's why record companies will always have a place. Their demise has been greatly exaggerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spindles Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Would you be as well served by buying a hdmi out video card and a hard drive and just hooking a pc up to the telly and using that? (my own weapon of choice, I don't have a TV license or watch live broadcast, but all the major channels actually have links so you can watch live if you want to, there's plenty of windows software of linux distros that do set top box style functions out there) Most of my tv is torrented or occasionally streamed as the programmes I enjoy are mostly US tv series or footie which you'd need a sky/virgin subscription to watch. Our viewing habits are definitely changing, almost everyone I know now shares my love of downloading series, whereas a couple of years ago people looked at me like I was mental when I mentioned using a PC for viewing entertainment (I guess they picture people sat at a desk or with a laptop, rather than lounging on a sofa) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkShow Bob Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 The TV companies aren't going away. Its the way people are watching TV that is changing. I don't really watch much "live" TV these days. Its either something off iPlayer or Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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