no doubt about it, Ian Watkins is a nonce

[thetime]

This is actually going to be such an anti-climax if/when he gets convicted...

[Mouseboy11]

Makes you wonder why it wasnt public knowledge before his arrest then, hmmm bit suspicious there.

No your not interested in his case, your interested in gossip and titilation.

[neilloggie]

And encouraging schadenfreude is a good thing how?

The Hillsborough thing isn't just about vengeance. For some, sure, that's the point, but Hillsborough is an iconic incident in proof of police lying, manslaughter, wilful ignorance and poor safety, a manipulative press, government, etc. all shifting the blame away from public authority. Getting a full inquest into that, the depth of the conspiracy uncovered and the conspirators prosecuted goes far beyond a petty desire for vengeance. It has instigated a huge cultural and societal shift of appropriate cynicism to ensure that such a cover-up shouldn't be able to happen again.

(and this is speaking as someone who thinks Liverpool fans often overmilk it)

[thetime]

especially comments being made on websites almost a year ago. The allegations were enough to have him at least questioned.

[2rare2die]

Im sure you need a bit more evidence than people posting some comments on websites.

Laughable.

[thetime]

And obviously they found some...

[lightning1000]

Can we just close this thread now please? Or at least move it out of the reading and Leeds section as I don't see what relevance it has.

[thetime]

Winge winge winge, get over yourself we're all perfectly aware how charging works we're just looking at some of the evidence much like the police would be. They dont just put their fingers in their ears and shout not guilty forever.

Edited December 24, 2012 by thetime

[lharris92]

Can we just close this thread now please? Or at least move it out of the reading and Leeds section as I don't see what relevance it has.

[thetime]

You seem a very hatefilled person

[jump]

Can we just close this thread now please? Or at least move it out of the reading and Leeds section as I don't see what relevance it has.

[rug568]

I would always encourage schadenfreude it is present in each and every one of us,you just have to admit it to yourself.

The Hillsborough families do want justice but they also crave vengeance.

[kaosmark2]

Can we just close this thread now please? Or at least move it out of the reading and Leeds section as I don't see what relevance it has.

[kaosmark2]

I would always encourage schadenfreude it is present in each and every one of us,you just have to admit it to yourself.

The Hillsborough families do want justice but they also crave vengeance.

[lightning1000]

If you're bored of the thread, I've got a revolutionary idea for you.

DON'T READ IT!

[SoLoCo]

Just gonna point out here (I'm NOT defending him), that it's innocent until proven guilty and not the other way round. And if he is innocent, then what you're doing is called defamation and is illegal.

If he is proven guilty, throw the book at him but until then, be careful with what you say. If innocent, he has every right to sue you and/or efests.

[eFestivals]

This guy.

shame he doesn't know what he's talking about all the way thru.

[mrtourette]

I think there's a big difference betwen vengeance and justice, and unfortunately in a large number of cases (including Hillsborough) the two get confused, either intentionally or unintentionally.

As for the Lostprophets guy, it seems that it was reasonably common knowledge that he was a deviant and it was tolerated by his bandmates and others around him as, well, there's nothing illegal in sucking off another bloke or sticking a wine bottle up your arse. While this may have been the case and why it appears that some around him aren't exactly surprised that he has been arrested for something I doubt that, if it turns out that he was involved in what he has been accused of, any of the other band members knew what he was specifically up to in this case.

Edited December 27, 2012 by mrtourette

[GuitarManDan15]

I think your confused what a hate filled person is. Im not the one searching the internet for material to destroy people.

Yeah I can see im a hate filled person...your momma must be proud.

[thetime]

Arguing on an internet forum at 6am on christmas day... your momma must be proud

I'm sure you just live in a different time zone or don't celebrate christmas

[Amy Lawn]

Hey I'm always awake in the wee hours of christmas morn, too excited to sleep, waiting for daylight so I can go downstairs and see if Father Christmas has been. Sometimes.... oftentimes, I forget that I'm a grown ass man.

[insideaway]

Hey I'm always awake in the wee hours of christmas morn, too excited to sleep, waiting for daylight so I can go downstairs and see if Father Christmas has been. Sometimes.... oftentimes, I forget that I'm a grown ass man.

[GuitarManDan15]

Grown up reply.

[metallimuse]

So do we know when the trial is likely to begin?

[thetime]

So do we know when the trial is likely to begin?