HMV to close ?

[A-Rob]

more sad news, as another record store is set to close it's doors

Scottish record store One Up to close. The shop first opened its doors in 1979

"It is with deep regret that we have to announce a closing down sale. As you are all aware, recent trading has been very difficult. We cannot express just how much we have appreciated all the support our loyal customers have given over the years. And we would like to thank all of our past and present staff for their amazing effort who made One Up what it was, we could not have done it without you."

[mrtourette]

I've been to various HMV outletsin various cities, I rely can't complain about the level of service given, most of times they have friendly and polite.

Regarding music knowlege I don't expect them to be experts in any music genre, for instance if I like experimental or Trip-hop, I don't expect them to knowe that genre and to give recommandations

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HMV Ireland which is receivership (ie being closed down rather than in admin) are doing sit in protests. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21059204

[thetime]

HMV Ireland which is receivership (ie being closed down rather than in admin) are doing sit in protests.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21059204

[Rufus Gwertigan]

I mentioned this when it was talked about a few days in the general discussion thread, but I really don't give a cat's arse about HMV going. It's a fucking awful experience going in to buy music there nowadays. I've been in 4 times in the past 3 years, and 3 of them I have gift vouchers for. I love the independent CD stores and have near my entire music collection bought on CD. I overuse amazon, but whenever there's been a proper CD store near me I've always spent more there than on amazon. I really liked how Fopp did things before they went bust, a good selection of cheap (£3-7) CDs. I shop in Rise in Bristol and Truck in Oxford fairly often now, but I wouldn't consider HMV worth a damn, haven't in about 6-7 years. It's a long time since it had any value as a music store.

[thetime]

Great... Criminal record and no job... Not the best idea.

[thetime]

You don't have to go around breaking the law to demonstrate....

[thetime]

Yup 2... Central London...

My farther is Unison man and I went on the recent public sector cuts march with him. My eight year old niece came as well. No trouble, party atmosphere, no trouble... Well not on the main march anyway.

[thetime]

No... Did your criminal record solve anything ?

Edited January 17, 2013 by thetime

[TalkShow Bob]

How will you get a criminal record from a sit in. The only possible law you are breaking, assuming you didnt break and enter and dont damage the store/stock, is trespass which is civil.

Well im England & Wales, and Scotland that is. May be different in Ireland but I wouldnt expect so.

It's also following on from several simmilar actions across Ireland with firms that have gone bust and probably wont pay their staff wages owed let alone holiday not taken and redudency. From what I've been following none of the participants in simmilar action got any convictions let alone criminal and in several of them they got all monies owed.

Edited January 17, 2013 by TalkShow Bob

[TalkShow Bob]

Criminal tresspass in Ireland:

Trespass on a building, etc.

It is an offence to trespass in a manner likely to cause fear in another person under Section 13 of the Act. There is no inclusion of any intent to commit a crime or to interfere with property in this section. This can be seen from the powers given to the Gardai under this Section. A Garda may direct any person he or she finds trespassing on a building or the cartilage, in such a manner as causes or is likely to cause fear in another, to desist from acting in such a manner and to leave immediately the vicinity or area of the place concerned in a peaceable and orderly manner. However, if the person fails or refuses, without reasonable excuse or lawful authority, to comply with the direction of the Garda he or she is guilty of an offence and is liable to a class D fine or sent to prison for a maximum of 6 months or to both.

Edited January 17, 2013 by TalkShow Bob

[TalkShow Bob]

Ahh missed that

[kaosmark2]

I don't expect great music knowledge and service on that grounds in HMVs, but I just don't think they're real music fans behind the counter. Not often.

I think one of the advantages of HMV as well as Fopp is the cheap CD offers. I know I have been guilty of impulse buying cheap cd's for bands I would not have thought of. There is a lot to be said for the 2 for a tenner offers and physically seeing music in front of you, rather than trailing through websites.

[kaosmark2]

Feb 10th majesty theatre, was on his facebook Page.

On sale on thursday from his website.

[thetime]

I didn't get tickets.

I am sad.

[kaosmark2]

Its just presale today isnt it, general sale tomorrow.

Although im not 100% sure.

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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/24fcfe64-60c3-11e2-b85b-00144feab49a.html#axzz2IK3dXBDk Apparently there are 50 parties intrested in buying HMV or their stores including Game who still haven't learnt their lesson.

[LondonTom]

wtf are game going to do with the stores?! (Can't read the full article, cba signing up). Any HMV stores that are still profitable would no doubt be in places Game still has a presence left so it makes no sense.

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wtf are game going to do with the stores?! (Can't read the full article, cba signing up). Any HMV stores that are still profitable would no doubt be in places Game still has a presence left so it makes no sense.

[LondonTom]

Thanks, still seems a mad choice by them.

Yeah that makes sense, had to close loads of stores last year due to struggling with a market dominated by the Internet and Supermarkets and buy presumingly the stores that are not making a profit in similar climate (I say the ones not making a profit, as the most likely already have stores near where the ones that are able to make a profit are.)

Idiots!

[radish]

So, is there room for a dead pool type thing here then? Not sure I could pick ten shops that will go into administration this year, not sure there are that many left, but two or three probably. I'd say WHSmith could be risky - not a bookshop, not a newsagents, not a stationers, not a seller of printers and peripherals, but trying to be all of the above. One of the jewellers could go maybe, H Samuels? Got to pick one of the millions of shoe shops, Schuh or whatever. And to end the year, HMV to repeat themselves, probably the stores bought out by Game.

I know this could seem a bit insensitive to people working in these places, but if I was working in retail at the moment I'd be considering my options carefully. If I could, I know it's not that simple.

Edited January 20, 2013 by radish

[pink_triangle]

I think waterstones could be in trouble. Shoe shops and clothes shops still have an advantage over other shops that there are still many who want to try on before they buy.

[Spindles]

WH smith have a further infrastructure as the delivery service for newspapers and magazines up and down the country, which is strong enough to support their retail arm. I can't see them ever going under as the shops are merely the tip of the iceberg.

I work for a retailer who are having to deal with these harsh times, we shed about a third of our workforce since 2008 and took steps to scale back planned expansions, while profits aren't as strong as we'd hope it looks like we've done enough to stay out of your dead pool. I was once the man who ran the physical fulfillment side of our website and we enjoyed 300% growth every year for nearly a decade, until the recession, but still see between 125-200% annual growth in web sales, which offsets the difficulties on the high street well. I look back happily at our first million pound week, having joined the company when we doing about 20k per week

[lost]

Argos - another with high rents undercut by internet retailers

Thorntons - not a patch on Hotel chocolat

Peter Jones - we've got 2, who buys this shit?

[abdoujaparov]

I think waterstones could be in trouble.