camping group at EOTR - especially for those going solo

[riverlodge]

running a forum with the details of thousands of individuals, and you are cool with "righting wrongs" (even though i'd argue my posts were an opinion - you allow "free discussion" right?) by the disclosure of personal data.

as said above, i'm okay with this but you take the risk of that person being seriously affected by it for a bit of "redress".

[baroquepop]

Riverlodge, I have no intention of getting into an argument with you on this, but in answer to your blunt question, I make my living from my own website/application so for me the privacy of clients is sacrosanct.

My opinion is that the webmaster here should have avoided at all costs entering the fray, but I guess that's easier said than done in some situations.

I don't see what else there is to be gained from further comments on this thread. Why not let it be now?

[riverlodge]

i had indeed 'let it be' baroquepop, you yourself re-started it a week after the last previous post.

whilst i understand & acknowledge the 'regret' tenet of that first post of yours it also has an implied supportive stance for the webmaster's actions, which - surprise, surprise - i do take issue with, on principle.

your last response does however help clarify your position somewhat, thankyou.

[FatFreddy]

i do take issue with, on principle.

[riverlodge]

When you find your principles come back and take issue.

In the meantime, grow up.

[eFestivals]

riverlodge, on 08 Apr 2013 - 20:35, said:

nice of you to join in, good that you feel so strongly to sign up and make this your first post anywhere on efestivals website and to write it in exactly the same style as neil!

presumably we shall see you sticking around to make posts on a range of eotr matters

PMSL .... do you think I need to invent someone to stand up for myself against the unprincipled small-minded man who is trying to b;lame the victim and who is not putting blame on any of the perpetrators?

Do you think I'm the only one who thinks you're a worthless prick, you who is condemning less than you're doing yourself?

Whoever that was, they nailed it. Grow the fuck up.

[riverlodge]

neil, you shouldn't get so angry just because your schoolboy trick was so transparent.

i do worry for you: with your quick resort to foul and abusive language, the lashing out for 'redress' against your publicly stated policy, and this monotone repetitive argument.

[eFestivals]

neil, you shouldn't get so angry just because your schoolboy trick was so transparent.

you're a very sad man.

You shouldn't be so angry just because your own schoolboy trick of pretending something that wasn't was so transparent.

I'm not angry. I'm laughing at you, in all sorts of ways. Just one of them being you having to resort to attacking the messenger because you know you have nothing of sense to say to the message.

i do worry for you: with your quick resort to foul and abusive language, the lashing out for 'redress' against your publicly stated policy, and this monotone repetitive argument.

So there's no worries for yourself, and your inability to recognise right from wrong in all places?

I've admitted my own wrongdoing*. The wrong-doer who you are defending with your pathetic "principled" attacks on me has yet to admit their own, or their lies in claiming no wrong-doing.

Get back to me when you have principles that are worthy of the word. And in the meantime I'll look forwards to your attacks against the other bigger and initial wrong-doings which have caused this thread into existence.

* My own wrongdoing amounts to nothing of consequence; I've merely outed someone who would rather hide behind the anonymity that the net might afford them whilst picking on targets they know aren't as cowardly.

[Nigey_boy]

Neil - why don't you do somethng useful and shut this flippin EOTR forum down or rename it something more relevant like Children's Area

Edited April 12, 2013 by Nigey_boy

[RedRockRick]

Neil - why don't you do somethng useful and shut this fucking EOTR forum down or rename it something more relevant like Children's Area

[riverlodge]

actually neil, before this thread i would have had sympathy with you for a number of aspects of what was put onto that original Latitude thread. some of it was actually very clever (in a 'clever clever' way though), some was plainly stupid & childish and some of it was clearly wrong. i didnt participate in it (you know that) but i agree with that.

however, your immediate anti-reaction (post #2?) put that sympathy to bed (you might judge that unfair, but thats what it is, a judgement point not an absolute right of yours) which is why i countered. since then we have essentially been in varying states of disagreement about whether i have a right to an opinion about the matter as well as you.

and tbh, regardless of the validity of your argument or mine, the lack of self-control, abusive behaviour and anger exhibited since was extremely unlikely to create contrition in anyone. i DO actually really rate the service you guys put up on this site (thats a compliment), but i cannot believe that you think dealing with people in the manner you have, whatever the actual or perceived provocation, is helpful to you personally or indeed to the business.

cheers.

(finally, a brief apology for not being around prior, my mum is unwell (not too bad now thanks and i'm NOT PLAYING A SYMPATHY CARD) and that has been and will be a bit of a priority right now)

[eFestivals]

Your belief in your take on things only shows your own ignorance and arrogance. I do not run this business for the approval of small minded unprincipled pricks.

Edited April 12, 2013 by eFestivals

[Infinite Jest]

I'm struggling to see how Riverlodge has been anything but polite, let alone "small-minded", "unprincipled" or "arrogant". Or even if he has, why insulting him is in any way productive for this site.

When I saw that Geof had been banned I was surprised. Because having known him for a few years on here, I couldn't see him doing anything banworthy. But equally, the moderation on here has always seemed fair and reasonable, so I couldn't see eFestivals banning him for no reason. I'd like to thank eFestivals for his/her clarifications on that matter in this thread.

[As an aside RL, the About page says that Neil is no longer involved with eFests]

[eFestivals]

correct, I'm not longer involved. But that doesn't mean I'm going to back away from the lies that started with the first post in this thread, and which were continued by riverlodge.

Given that riverlodge has chosen to post lies in this thread, then it's impossible for anything of those posts to be polite.

And because riverlodge has chosen to post lies in this thread, he's proven himself an unprincipled prick.

(Is riverlodge Canadian, btw? If so, then everything here makes perfect sense. But if not I'm struggling to recognise what his beef is, unless he's so small-minded he believes that his friends are beyond reproach)

[riverlodge]

whatever.

perhaps you didnt see my last post neil as it think there are things in there that you might actually cling to.

i know you'll want the final word on this, so go for it as frankly i'm done - your tourrettes response capability is admirably consistent but is a bit boring.

ps i'd love to be canadian, that would be quite cool - i'm very happy to pretend that i am. we can also pretend that fat freddy is real if you like.

[eFestivals]

what do you think I can "cling to"?

(Your arrogance proven)

You are in no position to take the moral high ground; you started from the very lowest.

This thread was started with a lie. Riverlodge has continued the lie.

But never mind. Enjoy your wonderful camping group complete with its own 5th column, put amongst you to lie to you and report back. It's a rather big re-occurring theme, that one.

[shoebox]

This thread is about a million times more irritating than last year's Scientologist thread.

Well done guys!