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[Com Truise]

Beady Eye are headlining purely cause of Liam's name there's no doubt about it. Anyone listened to BE yet? It's a right pile of rubbish.

I think 2nd stage headliners are poor at uk fests this year, you only have to look at reading and Leeds for that. Although Glastonbury have portishead and xx which is pure heaven.

I think alt-j is the only really poor one at R&L. Not big enough or well liked enough to headline imo and I do like them.

Phoenix is a good catch, despite not being big over here, they're still headlining festivals abroad and are an amazing band, I'd definitely be seeing them if I wasn't at Biffy. And Skrillex is a pretty good catch too, might not be universally liked but there's no doubt that he's a really big name and will probably get the biggest NME crowd of the weekend.

[Boris The Spider]

If Stone Roses hadn't split up when they had, by now they'd just be another Travis, James, Inspiral Carpets playing low down.

[thetime]

If Stone Roses hadn't split up when they had, by now they'd just be another Travis, James, Inspiral Carpets playing low down.

Stone roses is the most disappointing headline sets I've ever seen, although they might of been good at v.

I'm just wanting Ian brown to release a new album as I love his solo stuff.

[daniel.k]

Have you not paid attention to last years line up. Stone Roses haven't released anything since 94 I beleive and they headlined. So V would have an old act headline

If Stone Roses hadn't split up when they had, by now they'd just be another Travis, James, Inspiral Carpets playing low down.

Just about to say something like that

[Boris The Spider]

Stone roses is the most disappointing headline sets I've ever seen, although they might of been good at v.

I'm just wanting Ian brown to release a new album as I love his solo stuff.

They weren't.

[Boris The Spider]

I enjoyed Heaton Park, they sounded pretty good, but even that dipped halfway throug the set. The day was good because of all the excitement & atmosphere but at V I just thought Ian sounded awful and they were a bit boring..

I've seen Ian a few times and I find he is either really good or really bad.

[Bunny]

Defending the "older" music here, but at least those bands mentioned are able still to perform at festivals, tour and attract decent crowds.

A lot should be said for a decent song, and that's what these bands were good at - writing good tunes.

I see very few mainstream artists around today that would still be playing festivals in 20 years...

[thetime]

Defending the "older" music here, but at least those bands mentioned are able still to perform at festivals, tour and attract decent crowds.

A lot should be said for a decent song, and that's what these bands were good at - writing good tunes.

I see very few mainstream artists around today that would still be playing festivals in 20 years...

The cream will always come to the top.

In my opinion the problem in having newer bands headlining festivals is you know exactly what there set will be as they don't have many songs. For example I'm seeing the xx headline at pukkelpop and know pretty much what there going to play as they only have 2 albums. The night before I'm buzzing about seeing Neil young and his set list could be anything as he's written so much more material.

Another example is when travis headlined the major festivals they had to put covers in there set to pad it out.

[thewayiam]

Wayiam would be able to give you a more informative answer to that one. I'm still laughing at beady eye headlining c4 stage, ffs pile of piss.

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Thanks. Thewayiam doesnt make sense sometimes, but I can give it a try when he is back. I dont think Beady Eye should headline 4music stage but I dont care I wont be there

i'm all ears

Have you not paid attention to last years line up. Stone Roses haven't released anything since 94 I beleive and they headlined. So V would have an old act headline

and yet they still have an album considered gold for the last 25 years. i'm not pointing the finger but even someone who is dead set on dislike for the stone roses must surely realize what the big deal of their reunion was? take away how you think he sounds etc, t was HUGE, one of the, it's NEVER going to happen,

Also what's interesting is, Ian in interviews for a rock star that could just love himself, aka Liam or Noel, he's not a total knob, he's actually quite down to earth etc but that's besides the point

[thewayiam]

If Stone Roses hadn't split up when they had, by now they'd just be another Travis, James, Inspiral Carpets playing low down.

No they wouldn't, they released an album that's not only recognized more than any of those 3 by a distance but more recognized still probably than a fair few albums nowadays. That album goes into , and not just in my view but I think an overall view of one of the most important albums of the last 25 years. Liam and Noel idolize them, without them there would be no Oasis. Liam said he's cook burgers and play a gig for free to support them. Noel said he's not going a gig unless it doesn't clash with The Roses.

Indie wise, the only albums indie wise I can think that you can put on an enjoy from start to finish as much and is full of hits in the last 10 years are The Killers Hot Fuss and Arctic Monkeys debut. There probably are more but off the top of my head I'm not sure. Maybe Ah Ha Shake Breaker?

[daniel.k]

Okay thewayiam, where do you think headlining the second stage of V or glasto would be the same place as on the main stage? Like where is the equivalent place

[Boris The Spider]

I wasn't saying they're not an iconic band. Just in my opinion if they hadn't have split up when they did then they probably wouldn't be so hyped about now in regards to being headliners.

Edited June 11, 2013 by Boris The Spider

[daniel.k]

Everyone is on about older bands and groups being good because they could still pull a crowd, but also that pop is not good, so where would you stand on Steps, my iconic group of my childhood. They sold out their reunion tour, but are about as pop as there is...so if they were here would you say they are a great group.

And as for someones comment on not knowing if anyone will still be around in 20 years, I guess only time will tell. I think a couple of the line up this year will be at V fest 2020 and even maybe 2033, but I doubt it would be headlining in the case of Stone Roses, unless TDCC get huge, split up for 10 years and then get back for V (Using TDCC as an example as I just listened to them)

[thetime]

No they wouldn't, they released an album that's not only recognized more than any of those 3 by a distance but more recognized still probably than a fair few albums nowadays. That album goes into , and not just in my view but I think an overall view of one of the most important albums of the last 25 years. Liam and Noel idolize them, without them there would be no Oasis. Liam said he's cook burgers and play a gig for free to support them. Noel said he's not going a gig unless it doesn't clash with The Roses.

Indie wise, the only albums indie wise I can think that you can put on an enjoy from start to finish as much and is full of hits in the last 10 years are The Killers Hot Fuss and Arctic Monkeys debut. There probably are more but off the top of my head I'm not sure. Maybe Ah Ha Shake Breaker?

One band spring to mind, Happy Mondays. They had the same hype and perhaps was even more successful. You have to remember that when stone roses, happy Mondays, inspiral carpets, James, wonder stuff were around originally that sort of music was not mainstream.

Anyway are happy Mondays headliners? Stone roses is built on hype and were all foolish enough to lap it up.

[thewayiam]

Okay thewayiam, where do you think headlining the second stage of V or glasto would be the same place as on the main stage? Like where is the equivalent place

Relevant isn't necessarily always right dude as some bands need a dark setting to produce their set, a bit like The XX for eg at Glasto this year. But generally speaking I'd say for V 2nd stage and Glasto 2nd stage sub/3rd is equivalent but it's act dependent. Like The Prodigy, at V 2nd stage headliner, they need the dark. But my thought would be in most cases for 2nd stage Glasto, V and T it's sub a lot of the time, but generally due to a bigger outdoor stage.

I wasn't saying they're not an iconic band. Just in my opinion if they hadn't have split up when they did then they probably wouldn't be so hyped about now in regards to being headliners.

ah, naturally not, as without splitting up the huge demand for them back wouldn't be so much. but for the pure fact they could make one album that big, take arctics and the killers for example, if they had just made that debut album of theirs and nothing else of note since, split up and got back together, they wouldn't have the hype behind them of the roses, IMO. I missed out Oasis cause their debut was massive and it's funny cause I asked two younger guys (19-21ish) today if they could see one band they never got to today both answers were Oasis.

[thetime]

Everyone is on about older bands and groups being good because they could still pull a crowd, but also that pop is not good, so where would you stand on Steps, my iconic group of my childhood. They sold out their reunion tour, but are about as pop as there is...so if they were here would you say they are a great group.

And as for someones comment on not knowing if anyone will still be around in 20 years, I guess only time will tell. I think a couple of the line up this year will be at V fest 2020 and even maybe 2033, but I doubt it would be headlining in the case of Stone Roses, unless TDCC get huge, split up for 10 years and then get back for V (Using TDCC as an example as I just listened to them)

Yes but bunny wrote that comment about older bands writing great tunes, list me steps songs they wrote. Like I've said before some great pop acts around but steps is what's wrong with pop, abba and pet shop boys now that's great pop.

Tdcc will headline festivals in a few years I believe, great band.

[Kris_lcfc]

Stone Roses were amazing last year in my opinion, loved every second of that headline slot and that is what festivals are all about, real music

[thewayiam]

One band spring to mind, Happy Mondays. They had the same hype and perhaps was even more successful. You have to remember that when stone roses, happy Mondays, inspiral carpets, James, wonder stuff were around originally that sort of music was not mainstream.

Anyway are happy Mondays headliners? Stone roses is built on hype and were all foolish enough to lap it up.

I realize this, but you didn't see Happy Mondays coming back for stadium gigs did you? They did academies, that were not an instant sell and were shit lol.

You're not foolish enough if you like them. Take for example your thoughts on Bjork and The XX - I have no interest, The XX to me are bloody boring - but that's my opinion. Fair enough you like them and that's your entitlement, they naturally aren't where they are through being shit, I may say oh The XX are shite, but it's just speech of word. You can't claim someone you like who's done well are good just cause you like them and someone else who's done well are shite cause you don't in reality.

[Com Truise]

One band spring to mind, Happy Mondays. They had the same hype and perhaps was even more successful. You have to remember that when stone roses, happy Mondays, inspiral carpets, James, wonder stuff were around originally that sort of music was not mainstream.

Anyway are happy Mondays headliners? Stone roses is built on hype and were all foolish enough to lap it up.

Black grape were better than the roses as well, Shaun Ryder demolishes Brown

[thewayiam]

Yes but bunny wrote that comment about older bands writing great tunes, list me steps songs they wrote. Like I've said before some great pop acts around but steps is what's wrong with pop, abba and pet shop boys now that's great pop.

Tdcc will headline festivals in a few years I believe, great band.

pet shop boys?

Not sure about TDCC, I did like them but not so bothered now. I don't think they'll make headline myself.

[Boris The Spider]

Stone Roses were amazing last year in my opinion, loved every second of that headline slot and that is what festivals are all about, real music

Staffs or Chelms?

[daniel.k]

Yes but bunny wrote that comment about older bands writing great tunes, list me steps songs they wrote. Like I've said before some great pop acts around but steps is what's wrong with pop, abba and pet shop boys now that's great pop.

Tdcc will headline festivals in a few years I believe, great band.

Where do you think TDCC are more likely to headline, V or R&L

Not all good groups write their own songs, but I do know alot of bands now have a songwriter in there somewhere

[thetime]

I realize this, but you didn't see Happy Mondays coming back for stadium gigs did you? They did academies, that were not an instant sell and were shit lol.

You're not foolish enough if you like them. Take for example your thoughts on Bjork and The XX - I have no interest, The XX to me are bloody boring - but that's my opinion. Fair enough you like them and that's your entitlement, they naturally aren't where they are through being shit, I may say oh The XX are shite, but it's just speech of word. You can't claim someone you like who's done well are good just cause you like them and someone else who's done well are shite cause you don't in reality.

I love stone roses, have done for over 20 years. I was just really disappointed when I saw them last year.

If happy Mondays had not got back together for 20 years in my opinion would of had all the hype to headline big festivals. They must of got back together 4 or 5 times in that time, mostly for the drugs mind.

With the happy Mondays and stone roses you have blur and oasis, stone roses just waited and waited And then bang!!!

[thetime]

pet shop boys?

Not sure about TDCC, I did like them but not so bothered now. I don't think they'll make headline myself.

I would say pet shop boys are pop, my very first gig aswel...followed by erasure, I may be slightly camp haha.

[thetime]

Where do you think TDCC are more likely to headline, V or R&L

Not all good groups write their own songs, but I do know alot of bands now have a songwriter in there somewhere

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