Football 2013-2014

[pink_triangle]

whilst that is true,

you look at some players who have got a league medal and think how have they managed that!

[Wooderson]

If taking pleaseure at such a situation helps you guys deal with the pain of throwing the title away then I think most are happy to help.

[The Nal]

Are we all overlooking the fact that Mourinho is perhaps the biggest 'loser' this season?

Lots of money spent, shipped out some good players he didn't need to and ended up winning nothing.

[mrtourette]

How could we throw something away not a sinner expected us to win in their wildest dreams or - in your extra special case - nightmares?

LFC's pre-season aims were met chief.

[strummer77]

True. The Mata offload doesn't look so great now.

[zahidf]

He's have been ideal for breaking down Sunderland, Norwich, Villa etc

[The Nal]

Hmm... He hasn't exactly been a game changer for Man Utd.

Edited May 15, 2014 by The Nal

[lost]

Think the lukaku loan looks a worse decision to honest though I can see why he's not a mourinho type player. I expect Chelsea to be the most easily improved team in the top 7 next year via the addition of a striker

[thetime]

Think the lukaku loan looks a worse decision to honest though I can see why he's not a mourinho type player. I expect Chelsea to be the most easily improved team in the top 7 next year via the addition of a striker

[ThomThomDrum]

(All that money means you can buy a big fuck off lollipop!)

Edited May 15, 2014 by ThomThomDrum

[thetime]

Hes been Utds best player in a few games. Hes starting to look good. Im a huge fan.

[The Nal]

Playing in his proper position because of rooney's holiday, will he get the chance next season?

Rooney should just play in midfield, would be perfect.

[eFestivals]

Van Gaal can do it!

you better bloody hope so, else Utd are going to be truly fucked.

They won't have another £100M+ to spunk next summer if he fails.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

How could we throw something away not a sinner expected us to win in their wildest dreams or - in your extra special case - nightmares?

LFC's pre-season aims were met chief.

[ThomThomDrum]

Just because you meet low expectations doesn't mean they're the correct expectations. It's similar with Arsenal. They can win the cup this week and parade the trophy and their fourth placed trophy around all they like, but they've failed again this season.

[eFestivals]

What utter horseshit

isn't it strange?

In the eyes of some, every successful team is "a failure", "weak", or "they blew it" this season.

I wonder why that is?

Edited May 16, 2014 by eFestivals

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

What utter horseshit

[ThomThomDrum]

Great point, well made. Any actual reasoning for this?

You can try and portray LFC as plucky underdogs or whatever all you like, but the fact is they should be in the position they finished at, every year. However, to try and argue they had a successful season in the context of the season itself is complete denial.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Therefore every single team in England had a failed season!

All were below Man City and Man City failed in the Champions League.

Your method of measuring success is ridiculous. This "one winner, everyone else loosers" bull is simply that.

[ThomThomDrum]

Er no. Nowhere did i say "one winner, everyone else losers". It's a simple concept of achieving what you should naturally be doing, in the wider context, and the context of the season, and I suspect the fact that LFC failed to do that is going to haunt them for a time to come.

There's several examples of teams throughout the league, and leagues, who exceeded expectations based on their resources and the like.

It appears that LFC crave the "giants" tag when they want to, but when they want to exaggerate their achievements, the "plucky underdogs" tag comes out.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

If you actually believe LFC did not exceed their preseason expectations for the year then I feel sorry for you

[ThomThomDrum]

Well arent Sepp and the boys at FIFA quick!?

Qatar? Hot in Summer? Let me think about that for a while. Hmmmmmmmmm.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/16/sepp-blatter-qatar-2022-world-cup-mistake

[ThomThomDrum]

If you read correctly, I've never said that. What I've said is "having low expectations doesn't mean they're correct expectations".

[pink_triangle]

Yes, and so the implication of what you type is that LFC should have a loftier expectation to what they actually had. LFC finished 2nd and fell short of 1st by 1 game. If you believe that the club should have had that level or above as their pre season expectation then you are deluded.

[thesecretingredientiscrime]

Yes, and so the implication of what you type is that LFC should have a loftier expectation to what they actually had. LFC finished 2nd and fell short of 1st by 1 game. If you believe that the club should have had that level or above as their pre season expectation then you are deluded.